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Witnesses at Surrey street racing trial describe revving engines prior to fatal crash
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Originally Posted by The Province
The drivers of the two Corvettes waiting at the Surrey stop light were talking and laughing through their windows, revving their engines at each other, seemingly primed for a street race.
“It did appear they were trying to show whose engine was bigger,” said Philippa Bond, who testified Friday in B.C. Provincial Court in Surrey.
Gurjit Singh Dhillon is charged with one count of dangerous operation of a motor vehicle while street racing causing death in connection with the Sept. 17, 2009 crash that killed 83-year-old Pritam Benning. It has been admitted that Dhillon was driving the black Corvette that killed Benning. At issue is whether he was racing or driving dangerously at the time.
Bond was on 72nd Avenue, stopped at the intersection with 128th, when she spotted the black and yellow Corvettes. They were in the southbound lanes of 128th waiting for the light to change.
Bond said after the light turned green and the cars took off, engines roaring, they quickly changed lanes.
“The black Corvette was trying to keep up with the yellow Corvette. He was swerving in and out of lanes,” she said.
Bond saw the black Corvette clip another car, spin two or three times and then careen into the bench where Benning sat waiting for a bus.
“The bus bench fell back and he flew about six feet,” the 26-year-old said, dissolving into tears.
When cross-examined by the defence about the drivers’ behaviour, Bond said: “I don’t think they left their houses intending to race, but with revving their engines, that seemed to be their idea.”
Bond was one of six people Friday who told the court what they saw in the minutes leading up to the collision.
Randolph Frilund, 53, was driving down 128th Street, on his way home from work, when he heard a sound “like a jet engine” and saw two Corvettes — one yellow, one black — race past him.
“They both went by pretty quickly,” Frilund testified.
Frilund said the black Corvette had to stop quickly at 72nd Avenue, and the rear end of the car fishtailed a bit. When the light turned green the cars accelerated, but the yellow one was faster. The black one collided with another vehicle and “shot like a cannon” into Benning.
“I saw the gentleman on the park bench kind of in the air. He was in the air,” Frilund said, prompting sobs from Benning’s family.
Other witnesses reported hearing revving at the stop light, loud accelerating and screeching tires. There were conflicting reports about whether the drivers of both cars were communicating and their positions in traffic.
Two people reported seeing the yellow Corvette stop briefly after the crash before leaving. The driver has never been identified.
Manjit Benning said outside court that he and his family have been waiting to hear the eyewitness accounts of the crash.
“We didn’t know what occurred and now because we came to the court case we’re hearing a little bit more of what actually did happen,” he said. “These people, they have no agenda so they’re going to say what they saw.”
Manjit said it was most difficult to listen to the accounts from those who saw his father thrown from the bench: “It’s just senseless.”
I remember that day. Had class at Kwantlen. Parked my car, and started walking to gas station, for whatever reason (can't remember now), I went back to my car for something. If I hadn't have, good chance I would have been there to either witness the incident, or have been apart of it.
Busy intersection and street. Guy should get the book thrown at him.
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criminal record, inability to leave the country for awhile, cant drive again ever hopefully, cant leave the house for 6 months to a year. i think that is enough time for them to sit and contemplate their stupidity.
Sending these jacks to a maximum security prison for a few years and letting them get ass raped by a bunch of fat, hairy dudes is my idea of giving these guys time to contemplate their stupidity.
criminal record, inability to leave the country for awhile, cant drive again ever hopefully, cant leave the house for 6 months to a year. i think that is enough time for them to sit and contemplate their stupidity.
hard time in prison isnt exactly necessary
Where is the justice for the victims family in that scenario? Punishment isn't all about the offender part of it is for the victim or in this case the victims family.
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^ that Monty Robinson case bothers me. He was given a lenient sentence partly because he was native. So are there two sets of rules in this country? One for natives and one for the rest of us?
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Justice Janice Dillon also ordered Robinson to write an apology to the family of Orion Hutchinson, who was killed in the crash, and pay a $1,000 fine to Victim Services.
At the sentencing hearing, Robinson never apologized or expressed remorse for leaving Hutchinson dead or dying on the road while he went home to drink.
But Dillon also noted that when she handed down the sentence she had to consider the fact Robinson was a first time offender, an alcoholic and an aboriginal man.
one count of dangerous operation of a motor vehicle while street racing causing death
It is possible that a life sentence will be dealt, but precedence suggests a couple years in prison and a driving ban will be the sentence given. Truthfully, I would find that sentence a bit light but not appalling low if Dhillion shows extreme remorse and is co-operative. The driver of the yellow corvette deserves to have the book thrown at him if he's ever found, everyone hiding him too.
249.4. Dangerous operation of motor vehicle while street racing
249.4 (1) Everyone commits an offence who, while street racing, operates a motor vehicle in a manner described in paragraph 249(1)(a).
Punishment
(2) Everyone who commits an offence under subsection (1)
(a) is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding five years; or
(b) is guilty of an offence punishable on summary conviction.
Dangerous operation causing bodily harm
(3) Everyone who commits an offence under subsection (1) and thereby causes bodily harm to another person is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding fourteen years.
Dangerous operation causing death
(4) Everyone who commits an offence under subsection (1) and thereby causes the death of another person is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for life.
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Originally Posted by Energy
^ that Monty Robinson case bothers me. He was given a lenient sentence partly because he was native. So are there two sets of rules in this country? One for natives and one for the rest of us?
In the thread dedicated to the sentence Monty Robinson received, section Section 718.2(e) was discussed in depth. In short, the section recognizes the disproportionate representation of aboriginal people in prison, and the failure of prison to effectively rehabilitate aboriginal people, instructing Judges to consider more effective sentencing strategies than prison, if possible; leniency is not given due to aboriginal status, sentences are just structured differently.
It would be inappropriate to hijack the thread dedicated to this tragedy to re-open that discussion.
well this dude was finally found guilty...remember reading of this case and how his buddy, Sukdeep Grewal
in the car with him at the time, LIED and said he doesn't recall dhillon engaging in any 'let's race' contact
with the other driver ...BS...another pos.
some justice finally done.
the only reason the crown couldn't hold the more serious street racing charges
against this dufus is because the other racer didn't come forward
(another piece of work)....so they had to downgrade them to something that would be proveable.
the first link below was done in august by the cbc ..has the 911 recording in which he deflects
his own responsibility, saying ''something happened to my car, it went out of control' '...yeah, no shit, idiot.
....but the most recent developments
and the final verdict are the 2nd and 3rd links below it...the poor grandfather
who was hit, well his legs were allegedly crushed and just about amputated by the impact.
I think he might get deported since its believed he's not a citizen. When the media asked him he did not confirm/deny, so who knows him getting deported there may be justice served.
yeah, just found that out in the 2nd link by global
(on dhillon not being a cdn citizen and thus
possibly open to deportation due to being charged with an indictable offence.).
I think he might get deported since its believed he's not a citizen. When the media asked him he did not confirm/deny, so who knows him getting deported there may be justice served.
I remember seeing the accused wife talking about how he stopped and tried to save the old man, thinking the people would give him empathy and forgive him. Point is the dude is a total idiot and it was his fault, and whether he stopped and "did the right thing" isn't the point and he gets w.e is coming to him.
There was a dude about ten years ago who killed a lady while street racing; I think he spun out along marine drive. Similar story; Indian guy, not a citizen, got deported. He appealed for quite awhile on humanitarian grounds (lived here all his life, not able to function in society, etc etc).
Still got deported. Don't think I ever saw anything after that about him. I have to say it kind of makes me wonder what the disadvantages of getting Canadian citizenship is. Like, what makes it so worth it to not become a citizen?
Not that I'm complaining about being able to deport people who've shown not to respect the country, that is.
wasn't it TWO indo drivers who were involved in that particular street race...both of whom were not cdns? and their scum lawyer(s) was/were doing the regular greasy acrobatics to avoid the deportations with delays, appeals etc?
on another note, i'm looking forward to the drunk driving/hit n' run trial of victims charlene reaveley (mother of 4 kids) and lorraine cruz (nursing student) happened in pt coquitlam in feb 2010, by hit and run/drunk driver cory sater in pt coquitlam at pitt river and lougheed highway (i'll post on that as we get closer)
...this case is coming up in Feb/2013...
if you remember charlene was the good samaritan who stopped to help out lorraine cruz and boyfriend paolo calabahim when their car was involved in a minor incident (at the intersection of lougheed hwy and pitt river)...and cory sater, drunk (already on probation to NOT drink and drive from previous convictions ie assault) plowed right into them, instantly killing reaveley, cruz, while cruz' boyfriend paolo suffered serious head and foot injuries (one of his feet above ankle had to be amputated. the fucker, sater after he hit them, didn't even stop! from what i read even first responders were so shook up by the carnage that some of them needed victims services counselling too.
and all this happened right in front of charlene reaveley's husband Dan...talk about trauma!
of course the next day, with one of the best defence lawyers around (tony serka) only then did sater turn himself in: cause he knew he'd be up shit creek had a breathalyzer been done on him at the scene, given his parole conditions and previous convictions.
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Originally Posted by Graeme S
There was a dude about ten years ago who killed a lady while street racing; I think he spun out along marine drive. Similar story; Indian guy, not a citizen, got deported. He appealed for quite awhile on humanitarian grounds (lived here all his life, not able to function in society, etc etc).
Still got deported. Don't think I ever saw anything after that about him. I have to say it kind of makes me wonder what the disadvantages of getting Canadian citizenship is. Like, what makes it so worth it to not become a citizen?
Not that I'm complaining about being able to deport people who've shown not to respect the country, that is.
IIRC it was two drivers involved in the incident, but only the one who spun out of control was charged with the woman's death; the other only with MVA violations. So one guy got deported and the other got a heavy slap on the wrist.
But it was a long time ago, and my brain is aging fast.
Well the deportation case was a high profile case but there's other cases involving speed and fatalities were people are getting a slap on the wrist by some judges. Imagine the orderly families have to go through, sitting in court and hearing horrific details and at the end the person is free to walk and live their lives like nothing happen while the families have to suffer for the rest of their lives.