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68style 02-14-2025 12:00 PM

I have posted before, but moved to Calgary and still had my condo with no mortgage in Richmond... I didn't even think about keeping it for more than a hot couple of minutes.

Vancouver is cooked for condos as an investment, your unit would need to appreciate 5% or more yoy to outdistance what you can do with monetary investments and I just don't see that happening anymore. THat said, you have other factors to consider ie: it's not your principle residence like mine was so you'd have cap gains tax if you sold it on top of the realtor fees... might not be a great scenario for you... but for me it made no sense once you laid the numbers out, I could do at BEST a 3% return after strata and other monthly costs even without a mortgage.

I'm not getting out of real estate totally, I like it, but not in BC... I got a condo coming up in Calgary end of year and will be looking in Saskatchewan next.

donk. 02-14-2025 12:45 PM

Saskatchewan? Did you not learn anything from me? :pokerface:

68style 02-14-2025 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by donk. (Post 9165584)
Saskatchewan? Did you not learn anything from me? :pokerface:

I learned what not to do :fullofwin:

PeanutButter 02-14-2025 01:27 PM

Honestly, $300 under market rent isn't even that much.

As a landlord myself, asking for market rent from a solid tenant is silly.

The only times i've heard of landlords asking for more than the allowed amount is when the rent is like really low.

I'm looking for a tenant right now as my rental unit came up and i'm at least $300-400 below market rent because I want as many applicants as possible so I can pick and choose who I want.

That being said, it's not against RTA to ask.

Also, what is your advisor telling you to invest into? I would not be investing in real estate right now and I don't think it's a good idea to invest in the stock market on credit. The only investment I think I would invest on credit is a Mortgage Investment Corporation (MIC). If you can get a HELOC for 5% and find a MIC that pays 8-10%, I feel like MIC's are pretty safe. Even then, I probably wouldn't do it on credit.

donk. 02-14-2025 01:27 PM

:okay:

unit 02-14-2025 01:29 PM

i think that's easy to say when you bought for cheap and the rent still covers all of the mortgage and then some. if you bought in say 2022 and locked into 5 years or something, then i think its safe to say anyone would want the maximum amount of rent possible. it's easier to be generous when you aren't losing money.

JDMDreams 02-14-2025 01:43 PM

What happened in Saskatchewan? Please enlighten us, weren't you buying a whole complex?

Badhobz 02-14-2025 02:07 PM

he married some native woman and she took all his money and left him destitute.

rymack 02-14-2025 02:19 PM

So i'm in between $500-$700 under market value for the area ( fairview). I give a range here because this condo is 500 sqft so its a little small for some.

I'm cash flow positive after property tax , insurance etc etc so I'm not crying poor by any stretch . It comes back to this is a investment and we do need to free up some cash for renos etc etc.

Advisor had mentioned a few things including a HELOC but if we are taking money out for a HELOC ostensibly we'd have larger monthly outflows and if we cant get more rent then we are tighter than before ( i know you can get HELOCS where you just roll over the interest/payment but that doesn't feel like a smart idea at this stage ).

PeanutButter 02-14-2025 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by unit (Post 9165594)
i think that's easy to say when you bought for cheap and the rent still covers all of the mortgage and then some. if you bought in say 2022 and locked into 5 years or something, then i think its safe to say anyone would want the maximum amount of rent possible. it's easier to be generous when you aren't losing money.

You're definitely not wrong.

If cash flow is tight, then I guess the only option is to just ask the tenant and be frank with them about the situation. Worst case she says, no. Best case she agrees to some sort of increase.

noclue 02-14-2025 02:40 PM

When I lived in YYC buying a condo in the prairies was financial suicide as there’s nothing but land in every direction to build more supply. Plus way higher condo fees. I knew people who bought in 2014 even after the oil bust and they still underwater or just broken even now.

68style 02-14-2025 04:42 PM

Maybe up in the oilfield areas??? Calgary city prices are up anywhere from 60-100% from 2 years ago

I'm not interested in condos in Saskatchewan tho

donk. 02-21-2025 02:28 PM

https://www.rew.ca/properties/8850-l...ive-burnaby-bc

What do you guys think is wrong with this property? Id guess upcoming levies

Probably one of the few sites in burnaby where you can get a dual garage townhouse for under 1mil. Those are usually further out in coquitlam / poco area

noclue 02-21-2025 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by donk. (Post 9166358)
https://www.rew.ca/properties/8850-l...ive-burnaby-bc

What do you guys think is wrong with this property? Id guess upcoming levies

Probably one of the few sites in burnaby where you can get a dual garage townhouse for under 1mil. Those are usually further out in coquitlam / poco area

Wont the SFU gondola go straight through that neighborhood?

Mikoyan 02-21-2025 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by noclue (Post 9166368)
Wont the SFU gondola go straight through that neighborhood?

Looks like right below the gondola line. They never caught the Sea to Sky Gondola cable cutter right? I wouldn't think it'd fall otherwise.
https://www.translink.ca/-/media/tra...extension=webp

donk. 02-21-2025 05:41 PM

They are building a gondola? :O never even heard of this.
Dont see why this would be an issue although, they run silent.

Badhobz 02-21-2025 06:04 PM

until you hear the screams of the people falling from da gondola CUTTER!!!!

nice usage of people's tuition gays. instead of throwing it into additional educators, or programs, or even giving some back to the kids in bursaries, keep funnelling more retards up the mountain to grow your $$$$ pool.

bcrdukes 02-21-2025 09:47 PM

Gondola cutter = Badhobz

SSM_DC5 02-21-2025 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by donk. (Post 9166378)
They are building a gondola? :O never even heard of this.
Dont see why this would be an issue although, they run silent.

Gondola talks were always a thing for the last 10 years, maybe longer

supafamous 02-22-2025 07:18 AM

https://www.zealty.ca/mls-R2963515/2...-Vancouver-BC/

This seems like a pretty reasonable price for the area and a very nice place for the right person. The place was built by a white guy (https://www.iconco.ca/featured-in/a-...ing-its-legacy) and I recall the challenges of him working with the city to make it happen.

Shame the retail building next to it still has no one in it - ideal for a coffee shop.

https://cdnparap130.paragonrels.com/...5a0d904417.JPG

JDMDreams 02-22-2025 10:42 AM

Would you live there? That intersection is busy as fuck with Nanaimo being there

EvoFire 02-22-2025 10:51 AM

So this thread was created on the premise of the real estate market bubble popping.

13 years later, we are finally seeing a real correction in the condo market.

JDMDreams 02-22-2025 11:04 AM

You mean Canadian recession? I wouldn't really call it a bubble as I think prices have bottomed given that there will be more rate cuts to boost the economy and demand. Also I still think there is gonna be a shortage of supply in 26 27 as no one really is building in the last 2 years with these rates. So once this current new supply from Corona runs out, there will be another shortage as nothing else really has been built lately.

supafamous 02-22-2025 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by JDMDreams (Post 9166418)
Would you live there? That intersection is busy as fuck with Nanaimo being there

Younger, pre-kid me would enjoy living in a place like that. Walking distance to my parents, T&T, transit, amenities (the good Church's Chicken for one). If a nice coffee shop/bakery were next door it'd be a dream.

I don't find that intersection that busy at all (and I've lived near there for a long time) but I'd be one of those residents that would lobby the city hard for a roundabout to go in there.

bcrdukes 02-22-2025 11:55 AM

I share the same thoughts as supafamous. That in intersection is not as busy as say Nanaimo and E. 33rd. That right there is the clusterfuck. Once you pass E. 33rd south, it quiets down. Having a roundabout would calm traffic down and a coffee shop in that vacant space would be the cherry on top to drive some local foot traffic.

Is the corner store for sale as part of the house? Or is it seperate?


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