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12-21-2012, 10:20 PM
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#1101 | | RS.net, helping ugly ppl have sex since 2001
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Originally Posted by DC5-S  You dont have to be rooted.... And this is a Canadian website so its safe to say that 95% of people on here can get lte.. And yeah Google will probably disable it. But people could find a way to get it working again or just stick to 4.2.1
Posted via RS Mobile | If you want the setting to survive a reboot, you need to make the change in the build.prop, which is located in \SYSTEM folder, which means you need root to access it.
Here are a few other caveats, while you're on LTE:
1) mobile network location doesn't work, so that means anything that requires it stops working. (For example, Google Now)
2) Mobile Hotspot (tethering) also doesn't work because the required rules don't get added. Yep...you need root again to get around that.
I don't know about you..but hardly the LTE support that everybody is hoping for.
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12-21-2012, 10:30 PM
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#1102 | | RS.net, helping ugly ppl have sex since 2001
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Originally Posted by m3thods I haven't made the switch, but to your last comment:
CM10 on the s3 is more buggy than AOSP on the n4. You get extra customizations with cm10, but it's not as clean-running as AOSP.
For me, I'd like to make the switch to the n4 because of: - IPS screen > AMOLED imo
- the build quality on the n4 seems wayyyyyy better than the s3
- updates straight from google
- LTE aside, it's the fastest android device atm
| It's funny how people keep saying the N4 has better "build quality" when its the most fragile of any Android device to-date. People seem to focus on how solid a device feels in their hand, rather than durability. There's a reason why most electronic devices are made of plastic, and it's not because they hate their customers and want to make a cheap device.
Plastic is light-weight, cost efficient (to manufacture and replace), difficult to scratch, flexible, it doesn't interfere with antennas and it can sure take a beating. Materials like Poly carbonate, or ceramic may one day replace plastic, but it'll be a while until they are as cost efficient as plastic.
In 2 weeks of babying my N4, I found my first scratch on the back. I never bothered with body skins or screen protectors for my phones, but after realizing how easily this thing scratches, I actually bought a XOskin for it...my first ever wet application skin.
I hate how glossy the skin looks, I hate how rubbery it feels, and I hate how the skin itself shows every scratch/scuff/grease mark for a few days before it "self heals" (and by then, new marks will show up). But it's a necessary evil if I plan to sell my N4 in a year for the next Nexus device.
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12-21-2012, 11:00 PM
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#1103 | | Rs has made me the man i am today!
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Originally Posted by DC5-S You get lte on it....
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Originally Posted by Eclypz yes, it has LTE...by accident
People really need to stop suggesting the phone has LTE like it was designed to. It only works on one band, and it has to be enabled by a tweak that doesn't stick unless you're rooted.
Also, don't be surprised if LTE functionality suddenly disappears because Google finds a way to stop it. | It was an accidental feature, and will most likely be wiped by Google in a future update since the phone wasn't officially cleared for LTE use. There's a reason why they didn't advertise LTE in the first place, and we may never know it, but since it's not cleared by the FCC (or whatever body governs certification), you can't rely on LTE being available forever. Quote:
Originally Posted by Eclypz It's funny how people keep saying the N4 has better "build quality" when its the most fragile of any Android device to-date. People seem to focus on how solid a device feels in their hand, rather than durability. There's a reason why most electronic devices are made of plastic, and it's not because they hate their customers and want to make a cheap device.. | I have to disagree. Glass and metal are far more expensive than plastic, which is why manufacturers use it less than plastic. It helps their bottom line. While you're correct that manufacturers don't hate their customers and would like to give them a product that somewhat lasts, they definitely use plastic knowing it's cheaper than other materials.
And with a glass front and back, you're bound to get hairline scratches. It's just wear and tear of a device. As a person who uses a phone for a while (i.e. I don't resell it), I care very much about how a device feels in hand since I'll be handling it for hours a day.
I'm not sure if you had or handled an S3, but every time I take the back off it feels like I'm going to snap the back in half. Sure plastic may not shatter like glass or dent like metal, but I'd take the latter two materials over plastic on a phone any day.
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12-21-2012, 11:18 PM
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LTE works on band4 AWS, the CANADIAN STANDARD for rogers/fido/bell/telus
in the US, ATT has SOME band4 lte
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12-22-2012, 12:17 AM
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#1105 | | How I Mod your mother
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Originally Posted by Eclypz It's funny how people keep saying the N4 has better "build quality" when its the most fragile of any Android device to-date. People seem to focus on how solid a device feels in their hand, rather than durability. There's a reason why most electronic devices are made of plastic, and it's not because they hate their customers and want to make a cheap device.
Plastic is light-weight, cost efficient (to manufacture and replace), difficult to scratch, flexible, it doesn't interfere with antennas and it can sure take a beating. Materials like Poly carbonate, or ceramic may one day replace plastic, but it'll be a while until they are as cost efficient as plastic.
In 2 weeks of babying my N4, I found my first scratch on the back. I never bothered with body skins or screen protectors for my phones, but after realizing how easily this thing scratches, I actually bought a XOskin for it...my first ever wet application skin.
I hate how glossy the skin looks, I hate how rubbery it feels, and I hate how the skin itself shows every scratch/scuff/grease mark for a few days before it "self heals" (and by then, new marks will show up). But it's a necessary evil if I plan to sell my N4 in a year for the next Nexus device. | I have to agree here as well. Using better materials doesnt automatically mean better BUILD quality.
Think of it as a house. A house in west van can use expensive external sidings, expensive detailed architectural mouldings everywhere but the actual fit and finish can be shit leaving gaps everywhere, creaky mouldings/doors etc. Does that mean it has excellent build quality? No. Just quality MATERIALS. Yes, there is a difference.
On the other hand, just because it uses glass doesnt mean its got bad build quality either, it just means you need to baby it that much more compared to a phone that is mostly plastic.
That was one thing I disliked right away with the N4. Its bad enough that we have to protect a glass screen. A glass back is just twice the worry.
I would've much preferred to see a plastic backing.
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12-22-2012, 12:17 AM
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#1106 | | I STILL don't get it
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Hows the battery life for you guys?
The drain on idle even wifi on is really good..
But the on screen time is pretty bad
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12-22-2012, 12:20 AM
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#1107 | | How I Mod your mother
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Originally Posted by m3thods While correct about manufacturers not using plastic to troll their customers, they use plastic knowing it's cheaper than other materials. | This is true, but you also forgot to mention that they're also thinking of the customers when they design these. The average consumer doesnt really care THAT much about their phones. I'll bet 80% of people walk into a rogers/fido/bell just wanting a phone that works. Alot of these people can also be careless with their phones but they also want it to last. Plastic will survive more drops than glass will before it needs to be replaced. IMO plastic backs get used for longevity.
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12-22-2012, 12:21 AM
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#1108 | | The Lone Wanderator
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Just today I accidentally dropped my phone out of my friend's car.
But I have a Gnex with an Otterbox, and my phone is just as pristine as it was before.. I'm not planning on upgrading to the N4 until there's an otterbox-like case for it. I have a habit of not treating my phones well enough to risk it until then.
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12-22-2012, 12:25 AM
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#1109 | | (╯°□°）╯聽不到 ╮(°□°╮)
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Originally Posted by Graeme S Just today I accidentally dropped my phone out of my friend's car.
But I have a Gnex with an Otterbox, and my phone is just as pristine as it was before.. I'm not planning on upgrading to the N4 until there's an otterbox-like case for it. I have a habit of not treating my phones well enough to risk it until then. | something tells me they wont make one
LOL
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12-22-2012, 02:53 AM
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#1110 | | Say NO to blade grinders!
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Darthchilli is no longer irrate.
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12-22-2012, 02:56 AM
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#1111 | | RS.net, helping ugly ppl have sex since 2001
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Originally Posted by m3thods I have to disagree. Glass and metal are far more expensive than plastic, which is why manufacturers use it less than plastic. It helps their bottom line. While you're correct that manufacturers don't hate their customers and would like to give them a product that somewhat lasts, they definitely use plastic knowing it's cheaper than other materials.
And with a glass front and back, you're bound to get hairline scratches. It's just wear and tear of a device. As a person who uses a phone for a while (i.e. I don't resell it), I care very much about how a device feels in hand since I'll be handling it for hours a day.
I'm not sure if you had or handled an S3, but every time I take the back off it feels like I'm going to snap the back in half. Sure plastic may not shatter like glass or dent like metal, but I'd take the latter two materials over plastic on a phone any day. | And yet people that own these phones made of "premium materials" buy cases and protection to cover it all up. In the end, you're not holding the device anymore..you're holding the case with a phone inside of it. What's even funnier is all these cases are all yep...you guessed it....plastic based.
If you're brave enough to go naked, you'll end up with a phone with battle scars all over it. Some will call it a phone with "character" - I call it a phone with no re-sale value.
I would much rather hold a naked plastic phone than a glass/aluminum phone wrapped with plastic protection.
My Galaxy Nexus was immaculate, and although I bought a hard case for it, I never used it because I didn't like the bulk it added. It was naked 90% of the time I owned it.
Like !Yaminashi said, I'd rather not have to worry about babying my phone. I just want to use it and put it away/down instead of having to inspect every surface or pocket for something that can scratch it.
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12-22-2012, 07:38 AM
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#1112 | | Need to Seek Professional Help
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Originally Posted by HachiSix Darthchilli is no longer irrate. | If the Mayan prediction didn't end the world, I'm sure he would have. Posted via RS Mobile | |
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12-22-2012, 11:13 AM
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#1113 | | (╯°□°）╯聽不到 ╮(°□°╮)
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Originally Posted by HachiSix Darthchilli is no longer irrate. | i am..
they owe me one more phone
just that I got mine hahhaha
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12-22-2012, 11:55 PM
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#1114 | | Rs has made me the man i am today!
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damnit, when will the bumpers be in stock again?!?!?
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12-23-2012, 12:29 AM
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#1115 | | Say NO to blade grinders!
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6-7 week shipping, fml.
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12-23-2012, 12:11 PM
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#1116 | | RS.net, helping ugly ppl have sex since 2001
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update the 3-4 weeks batch Google!!!!!
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12-23-2012, 01:05 PM
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#1117 | | I answer every Emotion with an emoticon
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I put on a 720p movie on the phone last week.. looks beautiful...
put a 1080p video and runs really smooth with VLC beta players.. looks awesome...
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12-24-2012, 11:12 AM
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#1118 | | I STILL don't get it
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Phone is here! Screen protector is here! But my case isn't 
Any places locally that have nexus 4 cases? (Other than jp, they've only got white left, not my cup of tea) Posted via RS Mobile | |
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12-24-2012, 11:53 AM
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#1119 | | 14 dolla balla aint got nothing on me!
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anyone here use GOsms? i cant seem to receive picture texts with it.
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12-25-2012, 01:29 AM
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#1120 | | My homepage has been set to RS
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Sold my Note II today and just started using my Nexus 4 that was still sealed in box.
Note II was a beast of a phone and the screen was just gorgeous. I sold it because I was never be able to hold it with one hand securely and was always afraid it's going to slip out of my hands. Plus I feel like I need a manpurse to carry it around lol.
Nexus 4 feels so much better in my hands. Screenshot_2012-12-25-02-03-33 (1).png
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12-25-2012, 06:13 AM
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#1121 | | The Speed Syndicate
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looking for a 8gb nexus 4
anyone know when the next stock up is going to be by google?
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12-25-2012, 06:35 AM
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#1122 | | (╯°□°）╯聽不到 ╮(°□°╮)
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i love how everyone is using those MIUI icons..so did ya'll pay for it? :P
Merry Christmas guys
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12-25-2012, 09:31 AM
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Jelly of you guys with ur n4. When will it be my turn?
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12-25-2012, 09:38 AM
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#1124 | | Everyone wants a piece of R S...
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Noticed 2 things about it already.
1. buzzing sound coming from the charger
2. Light bleed from the top of the screen
anyone else have any issues?
Buzzing from charger I can live with, the light bleeding? Is that normal? wonder if it is worth it to claim warranty
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12-25-2012, 09:50 AM
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#1125 | | Where's my RS Christmas Lobster?!
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A few things I noticed
-earpiece buzzes when making phone call
-can't assign custom sound for someone when messaging, can only assign custom ringtone which plays for calls/texts/msgs
-there is no number indicators above the email/text/msg icon on the home screen to let you know how many messages are pending
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