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Old 10-25-2012, 12:27 AM   #1
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need LCA bushings advice

ok so time has come to change the bushings on the LCAs off of my 92 civic cx.i figured now is a good time to switch over to Si control arms and a sway bar. so now im having trouble deciding which bushings to buy.

i've done some research but still dont know what the best is when it comes to cost vs. longevity. my car is already lowered and with almost non-existent bushings i cant imagine ride quality being that much worse.lol.

anyways i've been looking at energy suspension, hardrace, and oem (from majestic honda).

a lot of the forums i read were a little bit outdated. apparently there is a ES hyperflex bushing; is that any different than the older ES bushings in terms of the need to regrease them? also how does it compare to OEM and hardrace? do they last as long? my car is never tracked. the most abuse is taking corners a little quick but thats it.

cost wise both ES and hardrace are cheaper than majestic prices. JHPUSA seems to be having a sale on hardrace bushings. anyone bought off of the site?

i figure hardrace is similar to OEM but stiffer considering its hardened rubber rather than polyurethane. what would make my choose one over the other?

anyways if anyone has some insight/reviews that would be greatly appreciated. would like to make a informed purchase pretty soon my car is safer

thanks in advance for any help. sorry about the long post wanted to get the details out there.lol.
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How much would a master kit run me compared to just LCA and control arm bushings? Does es last as long as rubber when driven strictly on the streets?
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We can supply the Hyperflex kit right away for that car. cost is $189 plus HST
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Lasts much longer than rubber.
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does the master kit include compliance bushings and sway bar bushings?
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Front and rear control arm bushings, front and rear shock bushings, front end links, steering rack bushings, transmission shifter stabilizer
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^ really good deal! poly bushings are the only way to go! just a heads up, use lots of grease and torque your bolts in under load! those things will last forever!
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does the master kit include compliance bushings and sway bar bushings?
the answer would be no. sway bar bushings are all different sizes, so you have to find out what size of bar you have. We can get all the other bushings in rubber usually.

The inner bushings are probably the compliance bushings. I dont think they used that term in 1992
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^ i heard that the OEM compliance bushings are fused the metal middle piece inside the bushing. do you know if the ES "inner bushings" have that metal piece as well?

snails: correct me if im wrong but the black bushings dont need to be greased right?
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Front Control Arm Bushings - Part Number 16.3105



2 - 3285 lower control arm pivot bushing (rear position)
2 - 15.246 (1.00”O.D. x .718”I.D. x 2.277” sleeve)
4 - 2274 lower control arm pivot bushing (front position)
2 - 15.245 (3/4”O.D. x .480”I.D. x 1.960”sleeve)
4 - 3284 upper control arm pivot bushing
4 - 15.244 (3/4”O.D. x .406”I.D. x 1.577”sleeve)

Rear Control Arm Bushings - Part Number 16.3104

8 - 2269 lower control arm pivot bushing
4 - 3283 lower control arm pivot bushing
4 - 15.279 (3/4”O.D. x .406”I.D. x 1.960” sleeve)

Front Shock Mount Bushings - Part Number 16.8102

4 - 2272 lower control arm shock mount
4 - 8096 upper shock mount(use O.E. sleeve)
2 - 15.245 (3/4”O.D. x .480”I.D. x 1.960” sleeve)

Rear Shock Mount Bushings - Part Number 16.8103

4 - 2270 lower control arm shock mount
4 - 8096 upper shock mount(use O.E. sleeve)
2 - 15.279 (3/4”O.D. x .480”I.D. x 1.960” sleeve)

Front Sway Bar End Links - Part Number 16.8104

8 - 8072 endlink bushing
2 - 15.226 (9/16” O.D. x 3/8”I.D. x .400” sleeve)
8 - 15.303s cupped washer
2 - 15.528 (3/8”-16 x 3-3/4” bolt)
2 - 15.701 (3/8”-16 nylock nut)

Rack and Pinion Bushings - Part Number 16.10102

4 - 10022 drivers side (all models)
1 - 10024 passenger side (power steering only. Bushing not available for other models)

Front Ball Joint Boots - Part Number 16.13101

2 - 13001 (lower balljoint)
2 - 13003 (upper balljoint)

Tie Rod End Boots - Part Number 9.13103

2 - 13003 Tie Rod Boots

Shifter Stabilizer Bushings - Part Number 16.1101 and 16.1102

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2 - 2277 (mounts at the transmission)
1 - 15.247 (1/2”O.D. x 5/16” I.D. x 1.200”sleeve)
1 - 1032 (mounts at the transmission) VTEC Del Sol

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bring your lca's down to my place, il press em out for 10 bucks a bushing,

I also recommend getting the ES ones, you wont go back after you feel em.
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heard a lot of good things about the black es master kit
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