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NYPD officer plotted to kidnap and eat women
hitting the airwaves today
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New York police officer arrested in plot to kidnap, cook, eat 100 women (excerpt from email)
By Joseph Serna
October 25, 2012, 2:06 p.m.
A New York City police officer has been arrested in a plot to to kidnap, cook, and cannibalize women, law enforcement officials said Thursday.
Gilberto Valle, 28, was arrested Tuesday at his home in Queens, N.Y. by FBI agents and NYPD’s internal affairs after a two-month investigation. He is scheduled to appear in Manhattan federal court Thursday afternoon.
Valle’s phone and computer records show that since at least February, he had been building a database of 100 women--complete with personal information and physical descriptions--as part of a developing plan to kidnap, torture, cook and eat them, according to federal indictment unsealed Thursday.
“Gilberto Valle’s alleged plans to kidnap women so that they could be raped, tortured, killed, cooked and cannibalized shock the conscience,” said Manhattan U.S. Atty. Preet Bharara in a statement. “This case is all the more disturbing when you consider Valle’s position as a New York City police officer and his sworn duty to serve and protect. Our investigation is ongoing.”
Valle obtained some information for his plan from the federal National Crime Information Center "without authorization, and outside the scope of his authority," the documents said.
In at least one instance, Valle discussed kidnapping a woman he knew and selling her to another man for $5,000, according to excerpts from a transcript of his conversation included in the court records.
No women were harmed, said FBI spokeswoman Kelly Langmesser. There was “just a great deal of intent.”
During Valle’s discussion of selling one of his victims, the buyer asked if he could lower the price if he offered something as trade.
“No nothing at all,” Valle responded through the online chat. “Like I said this is very risky and will ruin my life if I am caught. I really need the money…”
Valle has been a patrol officer in the NYPD’s 26th Precinct for six years. There was nothing unusual in his employment record, said Deputy Commissioner Paul Browne.
Among Valle’s ideas was to slow cook a woman so she would stay alive as long as possible, according to the criminal complaint. He also researched how to make chloroform so he could subdue his victim, and wrote a manual on kidnapping.
Valle apparently knew some of the women he was targeting, according to court records. He bragged to a man that he could show up at one woman’s house unannounced and she wouldn’t be disturbed. That was to be his first victim, prosecutors allege.
“I love that she is asleep right now not having the slightest clue of what is planned,” Valle said in an online chat in July with his potential buyer about the woman. “Her days are numbered. I’m glad you’re on board. She does look tasty doesn’t she?”
The FBI learned of Valle's email and instant message communications in September. The "co-conspirator" he communicated with is not named in the court record.
Valle faces up to life in prison if convicted on all counts.
sometimes i wonder how humans can ever amount to those actions. i think they must have some sort of mental defect that drives them to commit such phaggotry. or they could be possessed by demons
sometimes i wonder how humans can ever amount to those actions. i think they must have some sort of mental defect that drives them to commit such phaggotry. or they could be possessed by demons
Not only is your view anthropocentric, but it is completely inconsistent with anthropolgical data.
Cannibalism remains common among non-human animals, and was common among indigenous human cultures. Animals don't suffer from morality, so they eat members of their own species without concern; indigenous cultures did not share our contemporary ideas on morality, so they ate fellow humans without concern.
The only reason for you to view cannibalism as wrong are your contemporary ideas on morality, which are subjective. A person can adopt ideas on morality that allow cannibalism without suffering from a mental defect or demonic possession, because no sound argument that one set of morals is superior over the other can be made. It amounts to a difference of opinion.
The officer and his accomplice are completely sane, they're just not interested in abiding by the rules we as a society generally agree everyone must obey. Charge them, convict them, ship them off to prison, and amp up the screening process NYPD officers go through.
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Eating human flesh causes bad side effects. Gross
Please cite a side effect of eating flesh taken from a human healthy at time of death.
If we are not able to ask skeptical questions, to interrogate those who tell us that something is true; to be skeptical of those in authority, then we're up for grabs..
-Carl Sagan
Not only is your view anthropocentric, but it is completely inconsistent with anthropolgical data.
Cannibalism remains common among non-human animals, and was common among indigenous human cultures. Animals don't suffer from morality, so they eat members of their own species without concern; indigenous cultures did not share our contemporary ideas on morality, so they ate fellow humans without concern.
The only reason for you to view cannibalism as wrong are your contemporary ideas on morality, which are subjective. A person can adopt ideas on morality that allow cannibalism without suffering from a mental defect or demonic possession, because no sound argument that one set of morals is superior over the other can be made. It amounts to a difference of opinion.
The officer and his accomplice are completely sane, they're just not interested in abiding by the rules we as a society generally agree everyone must obey. Charge them, convict them, ship them off to prison, and amp up the screening process NYPD officers go through.
Please cite a side effect of eating flesh taken from a human healthy at time of death.
The capacity to rape and torture does not imply a lack of sanity, only a willingness to interfere with the fundamental interests of another human. In this case, the interest to not suffer and the interest to not die prematurely. Possessing that willingness only implies a set of morals far separated from the standard.
If the capacity to rape and torture were to imply insanity, explaining the disproportionately high number of soldiers compared to civilians who are insane would be a difficult task.
The Cop would be insane if he believed Jesus told him to rape, torture, and murder the women, because they were evil aliens come to destroy Earth.
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Please cite a side effect of eating flesh taken from a human healthy at time of death.
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Kuru is an incurable degenerative neurological disorder that is a type of transmissible spongiform encephalopathy, caused by a prion found in humans. The term "kuru" derives from the Fore word "kuria/guria" ("to shake"), a reference to the body tremors that are a classic symptom of the disease; it is also known among the Fore as the laughing sickness due to the pathologic bursts of laughter people would display when afflicted with the disease
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Kuru is believed to be caused by prions and is related to Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease (CJD).It is best known for the epidemic that occurred in Papua New Guinea in the middle of the twentieth century, and earlier.Although it is considered a transmissible prion disease, there is some evidence that the origin of the outbreak was due to eating a human being (cannibalism) with sporadic CJD, thus implying a common pathophysiology.
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The symptoms of Kuru are broken down into three specific stages. The first, ambulant stage, exhibits unsteady stance and gait, decreased muscle control, tremors, deterioration of speech and dysarthria (slurred speech). In the second stage, sedentary stage, the patient is incapable of walking without support, suffers ataxia (loss of muscle coordination) and severe tremors. Furthermore, the victim is emotionally unstable, depressed, yet having uncontrolled sporadic laughter. Interestingly, the tendon reflexes are still normal at this point. In the final, terminal stage, the patient is incapable of sitting without support, suffers severe ataxia (no muscle coordination), is unable to speak, is incontinent (unable to restrain natural discharges/evacuations of urine or feces), has dysphagia (difficulty swallowing), is unresponsive to their surroundings, and acquires ulcerations (sores with pus and necrosis). An infected person usually dies within 3 months to 2 years after the first symptoms, often because of pneumonia or pressure sores infection.
She taught me right from wrong and always told me to stay positive and help others no matter how small the deed - that helping others gives us meaning to carry on. The sun is out today and it's a new day. Life is good. I just needed a slap in the face.
In the final, terminal stage, the patient ...suffers severe ataxia...,is incontinent , has dysphagia..., and acquires ulcerations...An infected person usually dies within 3 months to 2 years