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icu222much 11-11-2012 10:04 AM

If you hit someone from behind, is it always your fault?
 
Lets say I'm going down Granville, and someone on the left lane cuts in front of me because another car is making a left turn. I rear end him. Would that be my fault?

xilley 11-11-2012 10:12 AM

FUCK I HATE THAT SHIT

broken_arrow 11-11-2012 10:13 AM

Yes. :troll:







Unless you have a dash cam to provide solid evidence to the contrary...

dovo 11-11-2012 10:13 AM

most likely yes.. must always keep safe distance. if you have witnesses that saw the idiot that cut you off... you might have a chance. ull still be at certain % at fault.
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mb_ 11-11-2012 10:18 AM

If you can find a witness saying the car cut you off or they admit it (or buy a dashcam!) then you won't be deemed at fault

icu222much 11-11-2012 10:18 AM

What if I didn't exactly rear end him, but instead hit the rear passenger door of his car? Would this prove that he tried to cut me off?

mb_ 11-11-2012 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by icu222much (Post 8078586)
What if I didn't exactly rear end him, but instead hit the rear passenger door of his car? Would this prove that he tried to cut me off?

Not sure what ICBC would say but to me the other guy is clearly at fault

radioman 11-11-2012 10:22 AM

Ya I would agree with MB if you hit the side of the guys car it proves he was trying to get into the lane when he obviously didn't have the time/space.

icu222much 11-11-2012 10:22 AM

Great. Thanks for the tips guys :)

mb_ 11-11-2012 10:24 AM

If all else fails, $50 and I saw everything :troll:

SumAznGuy 11-11-2012 10:25 AM

Broken arrow is correct. If you have video footage from a dash cam of the person cutting you off or a witness from another vehicle then ICBC could deem it the other person's fault. Or if the evidence shows you were going straight while the other person was changing lanes. Happened to me twice. First time the person pulled out from a stop sign and I hit their left corner and the second time the person changed lanes because they were behind a left turner. I was in the right most lane and damage was on the left side of my front bumper while her damage was on he the right side of the bumper.

But YMMV.

Qmx323 11-11-2012 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by icu222much (Post 8078586)
What if I didn't exactly rear end him, but instead hit the rear passenger door of his car? Would this prove that he tried to cut me off?


sounds like he switched out while you were already beside him

so technically he sideswiped you

dangonay 11-11-2012 10:32 AM

I posted this exact same scenario awhile ago. I was in left lane, car two in front of me turning left. Car in front of me pulls out into right lane to get around turning car. Another car in right lane hit the lady pulling out. I gave my information to the girl who hit the car pulling out and ICBC deemed it was 100% the fault of the lady pulling out. If I didn't provide information to ICBC then who knows how they would have decided.
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zx7rrrr 11-11-2012 10:33 AM

Not if someone pushes you from behind
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FerrariEnzo 11-11-2012 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by mb_ (Post 8078591)
If all else fails, $50 and I saw everything :troll:

i think 2 witnesses would be better :ilied:

xilley 11-11-2012 12:04 PM

make that three, i ll be half price. ;)

Recon604 11-11-2012 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by icu222much (Post 8078571)
Lets say I'm going down Granville, and someone on the left lane cuts in front of me because another car is making a left turn. I rear end him. Would that be my fault?

always your fault. 100% ur fault ICBC says if you are the person behind, unless you have witness then best bet is %50,50. I know from my past experience

vafanculo 11-11-2012 12:39 PM

Just went through this myself. Was in right lane going straight. Idiot in left lane switched lanes as he didn't want to wait for a left turner. I was going 50.. I imagine he entered no more than 20km/hr.. I slam on brakes, my front left bumper hits his back right bumper.

Thought for sure 50/50. Icbc called me the other day, found the other guy at fault.

When you talk to them, draw them a diagram. Also, it sounds like he changed lanes into you. Don't say that you 'hit him from behind'. Reinforce that, trust me. Tell them he merged going too slow without shouldeer checking.

But, I think in my situation he was given fault because he CLEARLY lied to the adjustor.
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jlenko 11-11-2012 02:06 PM

I witnessed a guy cut someone off, then purposely jam on the brakes in order to cause an accident. Of course, the accident happened... minor as it was, I still stopped and gave my name and number. ICBC did call me to confirm the story.

I imagine if I hadn't given my name and number, that the guy who caused the accident probably would have gotten away with it!

FerrariEnzo 11-11-2012 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by icu222much (Post 8078586)
What if I didn't exactly rear end him, but instead hit the rear passenger door of his car? Would this prove that he tried to cut me off?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Recon604 (Post 8078673)
always your fault. 100% ur fault ICBC says if you are the person behind, unless you have witness then best bet is %50,50. I know from my past experience

you seem to not have read his entire story

SpeedStars 11-11-2012 03:40 PM

Usually you're 100% at fault according to the Motor Vehicle Act. However, if you can prove the damage on your vehicle and the other matches the situation then you may be lucky for a 50/50. But from past experience, ICBC does jack shit and your only way out is if there's a witness, cam, or if the person admits to cutting (which they won't :troll:).
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SumAznGuy 11-11-2012 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by SpeedStars (Post 8078783)
Usually you're 100% at fault according to the Motor Vehicle Act. However, if you can prove the damage on your vehicle and the other matches the situation then you may be lucky for a 50/50. But from past experience, ICBC does jack shit and your only way out is if there's a witness, cam, or if the person admits to cutting (which they won't :troll:).

That's not a fair statement. In both of my cases I was certain I was gonna get shafted by them but both times they came to conclusion the other person was 100% at fault pretty quickly based on where the damage was on my car in relations to the other car. Or maybe I was lucky both times.

chinook79 11-11-2012 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by jlenko (Post 8078727)
I witnessed a guy cut someone off, then purposely jam on the brakes in order to cause an accident. Of course, the accident happened... minor as it was, I still stopped and gave my name and number. ICBC did call me to confirm the story.

I imagine if I hadn't given my name and number, that the guy who caused the accident probably would have gotten away with it!

happened to me too.. fucking old E. I. scum... I have fast reflex, so I was able to avoid accident but he clearly slammed on break to cause accident. I was so furious I chased him down, he started running away weaving in and out of traffic. When I finally caught him by the red light, I walked to him and he ran away running red light. That dumbfuck should never be allowed to ever drive again..

LP700-4 11-11-2012 06:23 PM

^ Would getting the License plate and reporting to ICBC or VPD do anything? I mean its obvious hes purposely trying to get into an accident.

xilley 11-11-2012 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by chinook79 (Post 8078861)
happened to me too.. fucking old E. I. scum... I have fast reflex, so I was able to avoid accident but he clearly slammed on break to cause accident. I was so furious I chased him down, he started running away weaving in and out of traffic. When I finally caught him by the red light, I walked to him and he ran away running red light. That dumbfuck should never be allowed to ever drive again..

I ve seen dumbass c-lais that does that, not to cause an accident on purpose. but actually stop because shes spooked and frightened from the incoming cars.. :rukidding:

the typical "AHHH, *slams on brake and let the world resolve itself*"


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