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Old 12-13-2012, 02:49 AM   #51
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i think its still failure to present your drivers licence.
I got pulled over right in front of my house. I didn't realize my license was not in my wallet, and I was just around the block to get cold medicine because I was getting sick. Told him the situation, my license number and that I would get it in 10 sec if he requires me to as my place was literally 6 meters away from where cop stopped me. He still gave me ticket
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I got pulled over right in front of my house. I didn't realize my license was not in my wallet, and I was just around the block to get cold medicine because I was getting sick. Told him the situation, my license number and that I would get it in 10 sec if he requires me to as my place was literally 6 meters away from where cop stopped me. He still gave me ticket
I may be wrong but i don't think he could allow you to exit your vehicle, nevermind enter a house, It's just too dangerous (NOT saying you'd go psycho but i'd bet it would be SOP not to let someone go get their DL)
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So knowingly driving with out your license is not wrong. Neat. I don't give a shit about anything else you just said after you made that retarded statement.

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So I finally received a call back from the police officer today(was told latest dec.17, todays the 18th), and he has a agreed to pay for my passport. Glad, he owned up to his mistake, however it took them 24 days to make up their mind! Finally, i can put this ordeal behind me

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Glad to hear that. Is he going to notify the Feds that he lost it so it can be placed on CPIC and US and Interpol systems as missing, or are you going to have to do that?
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Ok so if you loose or misplace your DL your a goof, moron, idiot, fag whatever for driving until that's remedied. Is that what I'm to understand right now? You still have a licence to drive even if you are not carrying it on yourself people jeeze. That's like saying if you loose or misplace your Carecard don't dare go to the hospital or doctors till you get that remedied first cus youd be an idiot to do that too.
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If you lose your license just go to ICBC and get one of the temporary paper ones...
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Yes, but some very enlightened people here are suggesting that if you lose your DL, you can't enter your car anymore because there is some magical barrier that you dare not cross, and to drive your car without one should be punishable by the chair.

And if you were doing the next reasonable thing and carrying another piece of government issued ID in the meanwhile, and that ID is misplaced by a third party, it's still entirely your fault for losing your DL in the first place.

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Phil, you always seem to sum situations up just right.
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You are .........if you think people will just quit driving if they misplace their license.
Well, I would drive down to ICBC Driver Services like I did the other day... wait for 15mins if you go at a good time and get a new one issued. $17, and you get a temp paper one. There really is no excuse to driving without a license unless you are driving TO the Driver Services branch or it's late at night when you realize you lost it and they are closed. There is a reason you get a ticket when caught without a license.

Pretty sure I was in and out of the Surrey location in less than 15mins with a new license on the way and a paper one in my pocket.
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Phil, you always seem to sum situations up just right.
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Ok so if you loose or misplace your DL your a goof, moron, idiot, fag whatever for driving until that's remedied. Is that what I'm to understand right now?
Only because you're required to present that license to a cop anytime you're asked, and failing to do so could net you a fine. If you're willing to take that risk, dandy.

More to the point then: if you loose or misplace your DL your[sic] a goof, moron, idiot, fag whatever for coming on RS and whining when you do get a fine for not producing it. You know the consequences, you take the risk... you get busted, you suck it up like a man.
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I've driven a few times without my wallet (idiocy and forgetting to bring it with me). I typically don't carry my passport, but I do remember my DL# (easily memorized, luckily). I fully expect the fine if I'm caught without it and I wouldn't criticize anyone who forgot theirs.

Though especially when dealing with a passport I'm super paranoid and worry excessively when someone else has it.
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Only because you're required to present that license to a cop anytime you're asked, and failing to do so could net you a fine. If you're willing to take that risk, dandy.

More to the point then: if you loose or misplace your DL your[sic] a goof, moron, idiot, fag whatever for coming on RS and whining when you do get a fine for not producing it. You know the consequences, you take the risk... you get busted, you suck it up like a man.
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Ok so if you loose or misplace your DL your a goof, moron, idiot, fag whatever for driving until that's remedied. Is that what I'm to understand right now? You still have a licence to drive even if you are not carrying it on yourself people jeeze. That's like saying if you loose or misplace your Carecard don't dare go to the hospital or doctors till you get that remedied first cus youd be an idiot to do that too. Great you've never lost your woopty fuckin doo charlie brown.
Bingo. Not having your drivers license on you when you are required to produce it does not mean that you don't have a license. If one loses their license, it doesn't mean that they have lost the ability to drive. I think a few people in here seem to think otherwise. There is a reason why you get a measly fine for this infracting; it's to discourage people from purposely leaving it at home. A drivers license is a quick, easy and solid proof that you are authorized to drive a vehicle, and that is all.

So what if you misplaced it or forgot it at home? You pay a fine, pay the penalty and move on. It's not an idiot move or a stupid move just because you think that you'll never do it. Reality check, TONS of people forget their licenses everyday. Not everyone has the same routine as everyone. Not everyone carries their license in their wallets or carry their wallets around with them everywhere. Some do and it has become routine for them which is why it might sound stupid for someone to forget their license at home. But like I said, not everyone works the same way as you and one way isn't the right way or the wrong way.
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Hey guys so i was issued a ticket, and i didnt have any form of id on me other than my passport so i provided him with it. Long story short i was issued the ticket for failing to produce license and no front plate, however i realized after i got home that he didnt give back my passport.

I called the officer and he returned my call informing me that he remembers taking my passport however he seems to have misplaced it and cant find it. He told me he is not going to be on duty now until next Sunday (dec 9!) and will get back to me than. What are my options here? Wait till next sunday until he tells me if he found it or not? If he doesnt find it will he be obligated to pay for my new passport?
Read the post! He didnt whine about getting a ticket for not producing his DL. He was ASKING what to do when the cop didnt return his passport which he produced as alternative I to prove who he was. He didnt need to produce that he did it to make the cops job easier.
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I'm assuming the po explained the ticket and perhaps you even had to sign to acknowledge it.

Now my question is, why did you drive off without your passport? I mean, he did return your insurance papers (again, assuming he took those as well) once he was done?
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[QUOTE=parm104;8112483]Bingo. Not having your drivers license on you when you are required to produce it does not mean that you don't have a license. If one loses their license, it doesn't mean that they have lost the ability to drive. I think a few people in here seem to think otherwise. There is a reason why you get a measly fine for this infracting; it's to discourage people from purposely leaving it at home. A drivers license is a quick, easy and solid proof that you are authorized to drive a vehicle, and that is all.

So what if you misplaced it or forgot it at home? You pay a fine, pay the penalty and move on. It's not an idiot move or a stupid move just because you think that you'll never do it. Reality check, TONS of people forget their licenses everyday. Not everyone has the same routine as everyone. Not everyone carries their license in their wallets or carry their wallets around with them everywhere. Some do and it has become routine for them which is why it might sound stupid for someone to forget their license at home. But like I said, not everyone works the same way as you and one way isn't the right way or the wrong way.[/QUOTE]


You know, of all the people who could not produce their DL on the spot when I stopped them....by a huge overwhelming majority the reason they didn't produce is because they didn't have one. They were prohibited, suspended, DL was expired, or they were hiding their true identity to escape some sort of legal process, that sort of thing.

In my experience most drivers do not forget their DL. They remember their keys and wallet and other stuff but most people do not normally take their DL out of their wallet. I spent years waiting for drivers who struggled to get the &&*(())!!! thing out from behind that shrunken plastic window. Not saying nobody does forget it, just that very few do.
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You know, of all the people who could not produce their DL on the spot when I stopped them....by a huge overwhelming majority the reason they didn't produce is because they didn't have one. They were prohibited, suspended, DL was expired, or they were hiding their true identity to escape some sort of legal process, that sort of thing.

In my experience most drivers do not forget their DL. They remember their keys and wallet and other stuff but most people do not normally take their DL out of their wallet. I spent years waiting for drivers who struggled to get the &&*(())!!! thing out from behind that shrunken plastic window. Not saying nobody does forget it, just that very few do.
Yea, I haven't worked in the field so I don't know what kind of statistics police officers are running into. I'm speaking from personal experience I guess. I tend to leave my wallet in my car and not bring it inside the house with me and often I drive vehicles other than mine forgetting that my wallet is in my vehicle.
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Only because you're required to present that license to a cop anytime you're asked, and failing to do so could net you a fine. If you're willing to take that risk, dandy.

More to the point then: if you loose or misplace your DL your[sic] a goof, moron, idiot, fag whatever for coming on RS and whining when you do get a fine for not producing it. You know the consequences, you take the risk... you get busted, you suck it up like a man.
He isn't complaining about the ticket. Lol. Hes complaining about how the cop lost his passport :moderat orban:
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I've been told that your DL picture is encoded in the magnetic stripe on the back of your DL. The card swipe terminal in PCs now give everything but the picture. If the picture was available then it would mean instant verification at roadside when you gave your name, DSOB and "code word". Unless you had an identical twin. It would allow Police to positively ID...but it would NOT allow other drivers to ID you, like after a crash when you have to exchange info. That is also a requirement that could not be met without an actual DL.
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