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Old 01-19-2013, 09:53 AM   #176
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I think it would sense to market the book with a free online code for the sex vid. I'm sure a lot of lonely cat ladies would buy it because they would be intrigued to see the actual author bone.

Mind you I guess its easier to get people to watch porn than buy a book so you'd get a broader audience with your approach..
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I think it would sense to market the book with a free online code for the sex vid. I'm sure a lot of lonely cat ladies would buy it because they would be intrigued to see the actual author bone.
I'm giving it away for free, with an advertisement built into the movie.

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Actually, I think most people would agree that it's a great way of reaching an audience. A lot of modern men and women surf porn. But do they read? We'll find out.
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Depends on what view you take, micro or macro.
In a micro view, you're happy today and that's all that counts. But what does that do for the greater good? What does fucking hoes and doing drugs do for society? Has he volunteered any time? Does he give anything back?

It's a bit abstract, sure. But I've officially run out of things to say on the subject.
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What will be even more interesting, is when the book comes out, and the character eerily sounds like Hypa and Parm!

Shit, if any of you guys make it to the launch party, I'll give you a signed copy, along with a triple on ice, free.

Still trying to figure out what venue to host it at in Gastown.
As long as the hypa character has a huge cawk, great hair, and is good at hockey we're cool.

so pretty much the opposite of me.

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Depends on what view you take, micro or macro.
In a micro view, you're happy today and that's all that counts. But what does that do for the greater good? What does fucking hoes and doing drugs do for society? Has he volunteered any time? Does he give anything back?
what if you become a multi millionaire... and all you do is give society some money.. you donate it to something. you give away more money than the average person makes in their entire life time (in the country you reside in).

doesn't that mean you've already contributed more than what most people do in their entire lifetime?

even your spending style stimulates the economy more than a bunch of families combined.


what do normal people do for the greater good? they're just little gears in the machine. as long as they keep well oiled, work hard and just keep working... that's their only contribution.

the rich contribute in monetary terms... the more you make the more you spend... it's already self fulfilling in terms of "giving back".

unless you just hoard the money and never spend a dime and never give your money away.
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stand up straight, be a man, do what is morally right, and not contribute to the pussification of society is one way you can contribute.
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werd!

i contribute 10 hours a week teaching boys to be not only hockey players, but respectful, hard working little men. that's my skill set and is my responsibility to share that.

glad you posted this because again ulic missed my point completely.
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what do normal people do for the greater good? they're just little gears in the machine. as long as they keep well oiled, work hard and just keep working... that's their only contribution.
u answered your own question. without the cogs in the machine, there would be no machine. normal people work to keep
businesses running - businesses that serve other normal people and keep money production running. without the normal people the rich would not have anyone to work in their companies, or serve them while on vacation. without normal people the rich would not be rich. a company can function with an underpaid exec team consisting of normal people. can a company function with no normal people at all? nope
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Well said drunkrussian.
And to be completely honest, who offers more to society?

The porn broker who is more likely to offer your daughter/cousin/niece cash to show her titties? Something that has been proven to limit a woman's choices in the future (http://articles.latimes.com/2013/jan...acher-20130120)

Or the guy who works in the lab as a radiologist?
Or the lady who spends time finding work for the handicapped?
Or the guy who drives them to work in the bus?

Who is more important to society?
Paris Hilton and Kim Kardashian? Or Dr. Jonas Salk who cured Polio?
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Well said drunkrussian.
And to be completely honest, who offers more to society?

Paris Hilton and Kim Kardashian? Or Dr. Jonas Salk who cured Polio?

Keep in mind that even the lowly pornographer is important to society as the canary in the coal mine.

Look at pornography laws around the world, and you will see that they correlate directly with the levels of freedom you find in those countries.

In a true fascist/totalitarian state, the pornographer would be the first to go,
Pornography is like the barometer of freedom.

Perhaps Paris Hilton and Kim Kardashian appeal to women as role models? Good looking, famous, wealthy, and having fun!
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Well said drunkrussian.
And to be completely honest, who offers more to society?

The porn broker who is more likely to offer your daughter/cousin/niece cash to show her titties? Something that has been proven to limit a woman's choices in the future (Teacher who was in porn films must decide whether to appeal firing - Los Angeles Times)

Or the guy who works in the lab as a radiologist?
Or the lady who spends time finding work for the handicapped?
Or the guy who drives them to work in the bus?

Who is more important to society?
Paris Hilton and Kim Kardashian? Or Dr. Jonas Salk who cured Polio?
Radiologists don't work in labs.
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Keep in mind that even the lowly pornographer is important to society as the canary in the coal mine.

Look at pornography laws around the world, and you will see that they correlate directly with the levels of freedom you find in those countries.

In a true fascist/totalitarian state, the pornographer would be the first to go,
Pornography is like the barometer of freedom.

Perhaps Paris Hilton and Kim Kardashian appeal to women as role models? Good looking, famous, wealthy, and having fun!
in my opinion porn brokers are important. Since beginings of our society sex and its exploitation has played a crucial role. We are a species that has sex for more than just breeding in my opinion and it only makes sense that pornogrpahy and other sex-based industries would pop up. If you watch porn or visit a strip club or get turned on when Olivia Munn is on a late night talk show, you should admit that what you're watching may not be as serious a mechanism as healing someone, but it certainly has some sort of importance.

On that note, i think the entire idea of comparing x to y, in terms of what's MORE or LESS important to society, is pointless. Society is full of niches that need to be filled and they work together to make a greater whole. This whole concept assumes that everything is EQUALLY important, as it adds a different type of value in its own unique way. Based on many cultural standards, a healer is more noble than a sex provider, who is often ridiculed, but noble does not equal important. Both are equally important, in different ways. I know it sounds crazy that i'm over here essentially saying anna nicole smith is equivalent to mother theresa.
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Keep in mind that even the lowly pornographer is important to society as the canary in the coal mine.

Look at pornography laws around the world, and you will see that they correlate directly with the levels of freedom you find in those countries.

In a true fascist/totalitarian state, the pornographer would be the first to go,
Pornography is like the barometer of freedom.

Perhaps Paris Hilton and Kim Kardashian appeal to women as role models? Good looking, famous, wealthy, and having fun!
The pornographer plays the same role in society as the coliseums did in ancient Rome. Appease the masses, give them bread and circuses.

The amount of porn one watches is inversely related to how busy and productive they are. If you watch a lot of porn that indicates that you have a lot of free time that could be used for bettering yourself or contributing to society.
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If you watch a lot of porn that indicates that you have a lot of free time that could be used for bettering yourself or contributing to society.
With that same logic, World of Warcraft is as bad, or worse, than porn!
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^it is.

i just saw a thread where people were talking about having 800-1000 DAYS of playing time in that game. that is 6-8 hours of gaming every single day for 8 years! think about that for a second. if you work 8 hours, and sleep 8 hours, you are literally spending every free second of your life, every day no exceptions, playing a fundamentally meaningless game.
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It is.
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playing a fundamentally meaningless game.

If it weren't for the fun idea of what it would be like to make money like a muthafucka, it would be existential crisis time!


Actually, I remember reading some dude's post about his time spread across WoW, Eve, Everquest, and DAOC, and it was something incredible like 2500 days played. Some of that must have been over-lapping, the guy was like 40, so it would have been like 12+ hours a day for 15 years or something insane.

I remember he claimed to enjoy every minute of it though, so... who am I to say it was wrong or bad?

There's that guy in India who held up his arm for like a decade in dedication to Shiva. Google it, it was on Reddit the other day. If holding his arm up all the time for his faith looks dumb to us, but brings him peace, should we be happy for him, or consider it a mental illness?

I bet some people would say 10+ hours a day, every day, in a video game is borderline ill...
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Actually, I remember reading some dude's post about his time spread across WoW, Eve, Everquest, and DAOC, and it was something incredible like 2500 days played. Some of that must have been over-lapping, the guy was like 40, so it would have been like 12+ hours a day for 15 years or something insane.

I remember he claimed to enjoy every minute of it though, so... who am I to say it was wrong or bad?

There's that guy in India who held up his arm for like a decade in dedication to Shiva. Google it, it was on Reddit the other day. If holding his arm up all the time for his faith looks dumb to us, but brings him peace, should we be happy for him, or consider it a mental illness?

I bet some people would say 10+ hours a day, every day, in a video game is borderline ill...
Objectively, he's an idiot. I wouldn't say he has a mental illness though. He's just an ignorant guy.
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morals are subjective though. what is moral for you may not be moral for me.

a small example (or big), is eating meat. some people will crucify you for eating meat because it's immoral. i bet you eat fuckin big ass steaks dont you? so... that's just one example.

btw what you just said, sounds hella red neck western.

i don't think you find that kind of attitude many other places in the world.

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i contribute 10 hours a week teaching boys to be not only hockey players, but respectful, hard working little men. that's my skill set and is my responsibility to share that.

glad you posted this because again ulic missed my point completely.
i didn't miss your point. you guys are missing my point.

i do not view hard working little men as something i want to be.

i want to be hard working big men. the ones that control the little men. i see higher (therefore aim higher).

just because you cannot see higher, doesn't mean it doesnt exist.

i am sure you know people that see below your scope of vision. they see even less. but you cannot blame them. they CANNOT see higher than themselves.

no human can see beyond themselves. but smart humans realise that, and realise others can see a broader range, and accept that. it's called ego, you have to accept that what you see, is not the complete picture and there are others who can see more. you have your place, and they have theirs.

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yes, but they are just cogs in the end. if one dies, 10 will take their place.
they are disposable. there are cogs everywhere.

yes you are right, without the little cogs, the rich people would have nothing.

but you know what, im going to be that rich person. im aiming for that. im not aiming to be a cog.

actually it's not completely true. the business i'm in, requires no cogs. and the sky is the limit for money. the richest people in the world are in this business.

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And to be completely honest, who offers more to society?

The porn broker who is more likely to offer your daughter/cousin/niece cash to show her titties? Something that has been proven to limit a woman's choices in the future (Teacher who was in porn films must decide whether to appeal firing - Los Angeles Times)

Or the guy who works in the lab as a radiologist?
Or the lady who spends time finding work for the handicapped?
Or the guy who drives them to work in the bus?

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Paris Hilton and Kim Kardashian? Or Dr. Jonas Salk who cured Polio?
you are assuming that he will be nothing but a porn broker for the rest of his life.

there are stages to life. if he makes it big doing porn, he will enter another world where he will meet people far more powerful and more rich than he is. and he will see the next step. the porn business will be but a stepping stone.

no rich man becomes rich overnight. there are many ways to get rich.
i don't care how people get there.

after he reaches the next level, how do u know what he's going to do?

with that kind of money... one simple thought or change of lifestyle could completely change the outcome of the story.

the path doesn't matter, only the end result.


dr jonas salk vs paris... you are only looking at one aspect.

one day paris will own hitlon, and she will employ a million cogs. and pay them.

she is doing more work than all of those cogs combined. she controls the chess pieces.

i don't care how slutty or how much drugs or whatever "immortal" things she does or how you view her.

at the end of the day, if she wants to crush your ass and own it, she can. and as a little cog, you should realise that and respect that.


the difference in mentality is, some people aim to be chess pieces. other's aim to be chess players.

the difference is very obvious in this thread.

not to bash all you chess piece types, because yes, we need you, much like you need us.

we are part of a bigger system. some people cannot see the broad scope of things, and that's absolutely fine because they'll make great workers (and they'll be happy doing it).

for people that can see more, they make horrible workers. being a big perspective person and working a small perspective job is worse than torture.

everyone has their place, regardless of morals.


just because someone isn't "hard working", doesn't make them wrong.


the "right" thing differs depending on where you stand on the mountain.

some people stand on the top, and some people stand at the bottom.
people at the top, see the big picture. people at the bottom see the little picture.
there are "right" things to be done at every level.

the thing is, people at the top will have the power to dictate what the people at the bottom have to do.

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plus i think you guys have forgotten your younger days, when jerking off to porn was the best discovery up until you fucked real women.

you forgot to thank all those pornographers that provided an outlet for your horny youthful self.
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no they don't. that's an illusion.

they can say no, then they can just eat dirt and not get paid.

there will be plenty of "bottom" people willing to take your place for some extra cash.



plus bottom people don't "see" the orders come from top. all they see is "hiring" and they work hard and apply for the job.
the people at the top provide those places that are hiring. they are too far away to directly communicate with you.
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