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Old 01-27-2013, 01:08 PM   #1
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And this is the stuff that they are willing to tell you.
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And this is the stuff that they are willing to tell you.
the "basic capabilities" kinda scary once you think about it
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This seems pretty neat. But I wonder about the running cost of it...
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Old 01-27-2013, 02:00 PM   #8
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because this day and age we have a fake freedom and there is nothing we can do about it.
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So you "zoom in" will no longer be a lie perpetrated by CSI.
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There is nothing awesome and sick about this. The US federal government attempted to run a drone with this camera attached to it for permanent surveillance operations in Florida. Lucklily, it was struck down by the residence there last week through a referendum. This is nothing short of a Big Brother tactic, and I'd be worried for my life and rights if this was flying overhead in where I live.
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I'd like to see how effective it is at night
I'm assuming that high up with such an insane FoV is gonna produce bad low-light images...but im sure they found a way to fit NV to it
good thing Canada is so behind in this regards...hopefully our gov't won't have surveilence UAV any time soon
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I'd like to see how effective it is at night
I'm assuming that high up with such an insane FoV is gonna produce bad low-light images
good thing Canada is so behind in this regards...hopefully they wont have UAV over Canadian soil any time soon
Canada has a number of drones but we just don't hear about them. I have a buddy thats an aircraft mechanic and he's worked at some air force bases in Ont and he told me we would be shocked of the technology the Canadian government actually has. He couldn't give me more details except that we are not as far behind with surveillance that everyone thinks we are.
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Wait did they say it stored a million TD of video a day? That's crazy!!!
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wasnt it during the us attack on libya or iraq? (i cant remember) where it was the canadian navy helping in surveillance and comms?

i imagine we have some great secret toys
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I don't like the idea of those being deployed over domestic soil.

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wasnt it during the us attack on libya or iraq? (i cant remember) where it was the canadian navy helping in surveillance and comms?

i imagine we have some great secret toys
The US enlists the help of our navy more than most people realize. They aren't the only ones capable of dreaming up and building some rather advanced machinery.
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So everyone up in arms all of a sudden is saying that because you suddenly learned this today, that your freedom isn't the same as what it was yesterday?
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because this day and age we have a fake freedom and there is nothing we can do about it.

Realistically they can't watch everyone doing everything all of the time. Six billion people are hard to watch. Hell, narrow that down to the 280 million in the US and Canada or the 250 mil in the US alone. Even with 10,000 government employees analyzing all of the information they take in that would be 25,000 people per single staffer.

I can't imagine that some government worker is sitting in a room staring blearily into a monitor watching some guy in Etobicoke selling an iPad box packed with a slab of rock to someone he met on Craigslist, or some other guy in Coeur d'Alene who drove off from a gas station without paying.

The government can't monitor everyone's email. Some g-man who went to university to graduate at the top of his class to get a prestigious government job isn't spending his days reading some Oklahoma teenager's Facebook posts as she cyberbullies the chubby girl in her class who watches My Little Pony in high school and writes crossover One Direction & anime fanfiction.

You are free to do what you want. The problem arises, however, when you do something suspicious that flags you on some algorithm in some computer somewhere. If you start searching chemicals used in explosives as well as subscribing to anti-government RSS feeds along with posts on your Facebook profile or Twitter about your liberty being eroded by specific minorities or social groups thats when you get someone's attention.

Pedophiles and people who trade child pornography would all be in jail if we were all under constant and ubiquitous surveillance. You'd receive notice of fines in the mail on Monday if you downloaded episodes of Top Gear on Sunday. Satellite video feeds of gang slayings would be used in courtroom testimony. Hell, the American embassy attack in Syria would be played before congress on giant high def televisions so they could analyze what went wrong there last September. They may have this technology, and they may be able to record loads of information, but they can't analyze it on a mass scale to put you in jail just because you backed into a car at the Home Depot parking lot in 2006 and didn't leave a note.

You're free to do as you'd like. You're afforded a certain amount of liberty unless you fit a certain profile which only applies to a very specific group of people looking to harm society as a whole. And you don't have to worry about seeing your freedom taken away from you.

But.

They do like the perception that the government sees all and knows all. It keeps people in line.
It may paint them in a bad light but they're not going to dispel that myth if it keeps people in line. The idea of "Big Brother watching you for wrongs you do" is the new "God is watching you for the sins you commit"
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So everyone up in arms all of a sudden is saying that because you suddenly learned this today, that your freedom isn't the same as what it was yesterday?
I think... one of us said something remotely close to that?

Nobody is up in arms, personally, I just think that it's a waste of money to deploy these over our own skies.
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I think... one of us said something remotely close to that?

Nobody is up in arms, personally, I just think that it's a waste of money to deploy these over our own skies.
Maybe not on RS, but all the YouTube conspiracy theorists are up in arms. Going through the comments thread under that video provided some chuckles.



As for Canadian's possibly crying out "invasion of privacy," let me just get this out of the way right now: ANYone is allowed to take photos and video of anyone they want, provided they're out in public. This drone isn't taking video or pictures of what is happening inside your house.
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Wait did they say it stored a million TD of video a day? That's crazy!!!
How the heck can this thing transfer data at a rate of I think it's 11TB/s wirelessly ???

Edit: friend did some math
a 5mp image = maybe around 1mb
its made up of 368 5mp cameras
so total that's 368mb/frame
So at 30fps that's 10.7Gb a second
So if you ran it the entire day non stop you would have to store about 920TB of data a day

Not quite a million TB of data a day o.0

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i always love when people say "how can this thing _____ so much _____, when the best _____ on the market can only ______" like the military buys their hardware from the same ebay store you buy your ram for your gaming PC.
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How the heck can this thing transfer data at a rate of I think it's 11TB/s wirelessly ???

Edit: friend did some math
a 5mp image = maybe around 1mb
its made up of 368 5mp cameras
so total that's 368mb/frame
So at 30fps that's 10.7Gb a second
So if you ran it the entire day non stop you would have to store about 920TB of data a day

Not quite a million TB of data a day o.0
There are lots of potential for optimization. As the data gets older you can implement even more aggressive compression where data only persist when movement was detected. You can set high and low priority regions with varying levels of compression. That should cut that ball park figure by a large chunk.
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I know.. of course the government uses different hardware than us normal folk, but supposedly Google processes 24 PB of data a day, 1000000TB of data is almost 1000PB, just saying it's hard to see how a government server (even America) could possibly process and store that much information
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Hmm.. So much for heading to the hills to live, once the NWO comes into effect lol. Doomed.
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