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Old 02-16-2013, 11:12 PM   #1
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Pulled over by an RCMP Bike transport Van

So I was driving on the rightmost lane of 2 lane(on each side) road when there and further down I saw a parked car(it was at night during a rain storm), I turned on my signal to change lanes. The car in the lane beside me was further back sped up, the parked car was quickly approaching and I don't think I could have stopped and sped up, changed lanes while the other car was on my bumper, and then changed back to the right most lane and slowed down. I thought the car would pass me at that point since I was no longer in his lane but to my surprise he slowed down and stayed along side me in his lane.

In a few seconds, I saw the flashing lights and figured out why. There was an an 1980's GMC Van that had the bar on ton and "RCMP BIKE TRANSPORT" on the side.

The officer said I was going too fast for the weather and gave me a speeding ticket. He said he was going to give the other drive a few more tickets than me(I didn't ask why but I assume he saw the aggressive driving I described). I've been driving for over 10 years now and never got any tickets of any kind before this, so this is all new to me.

So here are my questions:
1. Can I use the fact that I had I had speed up because the car wasn't allowing me to change lanes and it was too late to stop as my defense to dispute?
2. Is the speedometer of a 25 year old GMC van an acceptable speed measuring device in a court of law? I mean it's not a calibrated laser gun or anything.

Thanks in advance!

EDIT:The RCMP Van was behind the car in the left lane, I was in the right lane right lane passed the parked car when the lights were turned on.
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Old 02-17-2013, 12:51 AM   #2
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So I was driving on the rightmost lane of 2 lane(on each side) road when there and further down I saw a parked car(it was at night during a rain storm), I turned on my signal to change lanes. The car in the lane beside me was further back sped up, the parked car was quickly approaching and I don't think I could have stopped and sped up, changed lanes while the other car was on my bumper, and then changed back to the right most lane and slowed down. I thought the car would pass me at that point since I was no longer in his lane but to my surprise he slowed down and stayed along side me in his lane.

In a few seconds, I saw the flashing lights and figured out why. There was an an 1980's GMC Van that had the bar on ton and "RCMP BIKE TRANSPORT" on the side.

The officer said I was going too fast for the weather and gave me a speeding ticket. He said he was going to give the other drive a few more tickets than me(I didn't ask why but I assume he saw the aggressive driving I described). I've been driving for over 10 years now and never got any tickets of any kind before this, so this is all new to me.

So here are my questions:
1. Can I use the fact that I had I had speed up because the car wasn't allowing me to change lanes and it was too late to stop as my defense to dispute?
2. Is the speedometer of a 25 year old GMC van an acceptable speed measuring device in a court of law? I mean it's not a calibrated laser gun or anything.

Thanks in advance!

EDIT:The RCMP Van was behind the car in the left lane, I was in the right lane right lane passed the parked car when the lights were turned on.
1. No, I wouldn't say so. If you had enough space/time to speed up and clear the car beside you (who, too, was accelerating), I'd suspect that there was ample space/time to slow down instead and go behind said car. It'd be the safer move, there's no contest of that.

2. I think you'll have a difficult time holding on to that as defense.
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1. No, I wouldn't say so. If you had enough space/time to speed up and clear the car beside you (who, too, was accelerating), I'd suspect that there was ample space/time to slow down instead and go behind said car. It'd be the safer move, there's no contest of that.

2. I think you'll have a difficult time holding on to that as defense.
Thanks for your response. Just to be clear, the car accelerated after I signaled to change lanes, so I was already accelerating.
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Thanks for your response. Just to be clear, the car accelerated after I signaled to change lanes, so I was already accelerating.
Still not a defence. If you had time to decide to accelerate, you had time to slow down. At least that's what the cop and JP will say.
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Thanks for your input guys!
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What's even more awesome... an RCMP bike transport van pulled over TWO speeding cars...

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Yeh....Bike Squad are nothing but frustrated and wanna be Motor Cops. Real bad attitude there. They have even been known to clothespeg cardboard clickers to their spokes and make vocal engine noises.
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Reasonable questions and responses in legible English.
No ridiculous insistence on disputing your tickets.
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What's even more awesome... an RCMP bike transport van pulled over TWO speeding cars...

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Funny things, I've never seen one before and was surprised that they still have something from the 80's in their fleet; it was literally the same model as the A-Team van.

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Yeh....Bike Squad are nothing but frustrated and wanna be Motor Cops. Real bad attitude there. They have even been known to clothespeg cardboard clickers to their spokes and make vocal engine noises.
I should have mentioned, the officer was very polite and respectful which deserves mentioning; I have been harassed by cops in the past but I would say this officer was a good cop.

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^^^ But none are overweight.
That's very true, I wish I could be burning calories and getting paid! Having a desk job like I do is almost like being a professional couch potato.
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RCMP is pretty formal with their vehicle titles, eh? Seriously, is it really necessary to splash "RCMP BIKE TRANSPORT" on the van? I can't help but think somebody with too much time on their hands thought of that. I think just "RCMP" would do just fine.
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RCMP is pretty formal with their vehicle titles, eh? Seriously, is it really necessary to splash "RCMP BIKE TRANSPORT" on the van? I can't help but think somebody with too much time on their hands thought of that. I think just "RCMP" would do just fine.
Why don't you bring that up on their next meeting?
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