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The John Norwich Riders Corner In honour of our fellow moderator: John Norwich R.I.P. September 17th, 2014
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Old 04-08-2013, 12:32 PM   #26
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i think starting on a 600+ is ok so long as you have a fundamental understanding of how motorcycles work. I didn't know anything when i started on my gsxr750 and almost got into some serious accidents as a result of it. find out why bikes react the way they do when given certain inputs and i guarantee you'll avoid the newbie mistakes. one thing i'll admit is the bigger bikes are a huge pain in the ass to maneuver at low speeds compared to something like a ninja250. everything about a 600+ sport bike is race oriented, so it's very finicky when ridden at low speeds.
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There's nothing wrong learning on a 600cc bike, I did it. But OP's original question stated which bike is the "best" bike to learn on.
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just get a litre bike, these guys' don't know what they're talking about. As long as you don't hit vtec you'll be fine
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There's nothing wrong learning on a 600cc bike, I did it. But OP's original question stated which bike is the "best" bike to learn on.
if OP is getting a cbr 125 for $1500 i think that just about ends the thread right there lol
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just get a litre bike, these guys' don't know what they're talking about. As long as you don't hit vtec you'll be fine
To be honest...if you can ride a litre bike, it just automatically means you can ride anything.




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Old 04-08-2013, 08:12 PM   #32
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Buy the CBR125! Learn on it, dont drop it, flip it for profit, buy a 250 or 600 depending on how you feel after getting your hands dirty handling a bike.
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I have a problem, I watched that video it said motorcycles have 6 gears.

One of mine has only 5 and the other one has 7.

Should I bring them to the shop to have them fixed ?
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Old 04-08-2013, 08:30 PM   #34
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Want to buy a bike.

START HERE

http://wpc.200e.edgecastcdn.net/0020...ome_1_sdhb.mp4

Then sign up here

http://www.revscene.net/forums/66396...signup-23.html

Course $ 800.00

Then helmet $ 400.00

Jacket $ 250.00

Pant $ 150.00

Gloves $ 120.00

( ttl $ 1900 after tax)

License & Insurance $ 1000.00 (new rider .... it can be less ... but you get the point

That leaves you with how much for your bike out of your $ 3000.00

Oh and the tax on a bike is 12 % on a private sale and 7 % from a shop

Motorcycles are not a poor mans sport.
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In my opinion owning a bike can be just as expensive as owning a car. Aside from the bike itself, there's gear and insurance.

If you're wondering if a 125 is right for you, you need to ask yourself what do you foresee yourself using the bike for. Is it to commute? If so, do you need to take any highways? Also, depending on your build, a 125 may be too small for you. In addition, many people out grow a 125 very quickly, and would upgrade in a few months.

I would personally recommend starting on a 250, as you can still go on the highway, its more forgiving than most 600's and when it comes time to move on, it'll retain it value very well.

I will be using the bike pretty much to commute from my home in Burnaby to work in downtown Vancouver and vice versa. Other than that I'd be riding mainly in Vancouver downtown and eastside.

I am 5'9, 160lbs with a fit build so I think the CBR 125 would fit me just fine if I do choose to get it.

I don't need to use the highway for travelling and I don't really care about speed.

What I do care about is the look and sound of the bike I choose to get. I don't want to be riding a dinky ass bike so my friends can make fun of me, then again none of them are riders. And I'd prefer my bike doesn't sound like a scooter.. I have checked out pictures of the 2007 Honda CBR 125 and it looks decent, a little skinny but whatever, it's only a first bike.

That all being said, getting the 2007 (BTW, I didn't mention it before, but yeah it's a 2007) Honda CBR 125, colour black, about 3000kms for $1500 is something I'm really interested in. You guys say it's a steal and I just checked CL and they go for about 1800-2000 and so I agree.

So.. Anything else I should be aware of?

Thanks again for all the feedback

Oh and what's the insurance like for a new rider if I do get the CBR 125? I need numbers

EDIT: Yes, I'll definitely be taking the riding school course and getting protective gear.
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The 125 will be fun for about 15 minutes, then you'll outgrow it. Get an SV650, ninja 650r, ninja 400r, or at least a 08+ ninja 250r. Rule of thumb: stay away from anything with more than 2 "R"s in the name.
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Old 04-08-2013, 10:51 PM   #38
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The 125 will be fun for about 15 minutes, then you'll outgrow it. Get an SV650, ninja 650r, ninja 400r, or at least a 08+ ninja 250r. Rule of thumb: stay away from anything with more than 2 "R"s in the name.
Not really into the having fun part, more into the commute part.. getting around the city quickly. 125 be good for that?
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i would suggest a 250 then. forgiving and plenty of power for the city. it'll even be good on the highway if you want to go on a nice ride. after a few seasons, then upgrade if you feel like you're ready. i'm personally interested in the ninja 300 but i don't think its in canada yet?
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Holeshot motorsports are listing the 300 ninja as available, I was more interested in the 400 ninja that they can't seem to sell
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Oh and what's the insurance like for a new rider if I do get the CBR 125? I need numbers
Cheap. I wouldn't even worry too much about it. Your gear and riding lessons might cost more. :
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yeah don't get the 125...you'll get bored of it too fast. try to find a 250 ninja
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Not really into the having fun part, more into the commute part.. getting around the city quickly. 125 be good for that?
I think the fact that it has like 13hp is a little scary. Having a little more get-up-and-go has gotten me out of trouble more than a couple times. Having more power helps with merging into traffic, etc as well. Too little power is sometimes a safety issue, I've found. Also, if you ever need to hit the highway or make a longer commute, the cbr125 would be pretty useless. A 250 is at least more practical in that sense.
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You can even get the new(ish) Honda CBR250R..which is a bit better(and more refined) than the ninja 250r for under 4k. Otherwise, I don't think it'd be too difficult to pick up an 08+ ninja 250r for ~3k
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What do people mean, I'd get bored of riding a 125cc after a while? Is it the speed?
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its the power. it would take less for the 250 to reach a certain speed when compared to the 125. so lets say you take it to the highway, it would probably be more of a struggle to reach 120km/h on the 125 than it would be for the 250. both can reach it, but it just takes more for the 125 to get there. with a 600cc, it would be even easier and faster to reach 120km/h. hope that makes sense.
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its the power. it would take less for the 250 to reach a certain speed when compared to the 125. so lets say you take it to the highway, it would probably be more of a struggle to reach 120km/h on the 125 than it would be for the 250. both can reach it, but it just takes more for the 125 to get there. with a 600cc, it would be even easier and faster to reach 120km/h. hope that makes sense.
Well said! But I won't be using the highway, and I don't think I'd be getting bored of my bike because it uses a bit more power. WELL... Maybe after a year or so, but it's all good, $1500 for a starter bike to figure out what I really want later on, am I riiiight?
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U will get annoyed by shifting all them freekin gears on 125... I'd suggest to start with 250... All around more versatile of a bike... Imagine shifting 5/6 gears so u can drive 120km/h
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^ +1 on that. i bought a 06 r6 as my first bike and i think it would have been a better choice to go with a 250 first. i rode my friends 250 and the amount of gears to change seemed like a lot more of a chore than the r6 lol. but the fuel injection, gotta love it.
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