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The John Norwich Riders Corner In honour of our fellow moderator: John Norwich R.I.P. September 17th, 2014
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Old 04-07-2013, 11:24 AM   #1
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Best starter sport bike (motorcycle)

I'm looking into bikes right now and was just wondering what would be the best starter sport bike for me.

I like the Honda CBR, Yamaha R6 and Susuki GSX-R.

I don't really know about cc's and actually, anything about motorcycles, so help would be great!

Price wise, I'm thinking if I can get anything under $3000.

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Old 04-07-2013, 11:30 AM   #2
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with that budget I would go for a 250cc.

if you have taken a course at pacific riding school though, i would try to up your budget to 5g or something so you can get a decent shape 600cc thats not 10 years old.

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should get the biggest engine you can afford, and don't worry about safety gear. As long as you watch enough youtube videos on how to drive a motorcycle, and practice standing on 1 foot for 1 hour a day to improve your balance, you'll never need safety gear. Just spend that safety gear money towards more CC's! I recommend 950cc as the minimum for a starter bike.


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Say what? LOOL dont listen to this guy. Watching YouTube videos doesn't teach you shit. Take a motorcycle course where you have instructors there and have hands on experience. The course is about $800 from PRS. Highly recommend you taking a course there
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Also get a 600c. No point in getting a 250cc bcz ull get bored of it real fast. And also invest into some protector gear, last thing you want is to hurt yourself or paralyze yourself for life if you get into a crash.
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should get the biggest engine you can afford, and don't worry about safety gear. As long as you watch enough youtube videos on how to drive a motorcycle, and practice standing on 1 foot for 1 hour a day to improve your balance, you'll never need safety gear. Just spend that safety gear money towards more CC's! I recommend 950cc as the minimum for a starter bike.
lol. You guys do realize he is just trolling right? If you follow the opposite of what he recommends, you will be fine.
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Ya, plus don't get a honda bike. When vtec kicks in the power spikes way too high .. makes it hard to control.



OP maybe look at getting a Honda F4, carburated. IIRC It was only made in 1999/2000 but it looks exactly like the newer sportbikes, but makes a little less power so it'll be easier to ride but still look cool

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My Suzuki SV650 has been a great starter bike for me. Coming up 5 years now and it's been rock solid. Enough pep to scare the shit out of you(For the first year or two :P), and super light so it's easy to handle. Mine is a 2001, but I believe the newer FI model came out in 2004. Nicer bodywork, same badass V twin sound.

I picked it up for $3500 way back when, and i'm sure i'll still get close to $3000 for it today.

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for that price range you're looking at an 99-01 600cc japanese sport bike. i'd try to opt for fuel injection (01+ GSXR600 for example) as it'll be much less of a hassle to deal with down the road.
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Invest in gear and riding school before looking for a bike.
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As dhillon09 stated, f4 is a great choice; seating position is slightly less aggressive compared to the other 600CCs. But for a few hundred more, you can get the f4i which is fuel injected so you don't have to deal with carbs.

It's not going to be your last bike, so don't worry sweat it too much. You'll learn things you hate/love and look for those features in your next one
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You can get a used cbr 250r or ninja 250r for ~$3000. Don't start on a 600cc bike like everyone here is "suggesting"
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What reasons are prompting you to pursue 2-wheeling?

is it for the freedom of open air motoring?

is it for speed?

is it for cost effectiveness?

all of the above?

answering those will shed some light and help you make the choices when it comes.

In the city, 49cc up to 250cc is enough to commute. Sure, not break neck speeds or exciting, but it is adequate. Ever been on a motorized 2 wheeler before? if not you can try renting out a scooter to get the feel of open air riding. Go from them and slowly graduate yourself to be a safe and efficient rider. Take a course, it will literally save you from sticky situations.

$3000 budget, I'd spend a good majority of it on training and protective gear, then purchase something you can practice on while having some fun. I know alot of people scoff at the 125cc class of CBR, but for the initial cost and operations cost, it makes sense. slightly faster than a 50cc scooter, but lightweight and good platform to practice shifting and dynamics. Go up to 250cc as a comprimise if you think 125cc is not enough for you.

last but not least, leave ego out of it. That ensures your health and longevity.

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What reasons are prompting you to pursue 2-wheeling?

is it for the freedom of open air motoring?

is it for speed?

is it for cost effectiveness?

all of the above?
Thanks for the great feedback everyone!

And to answer the questions,
Yes for freedom of open air motoring
No, not really for speed
Yes, for cost effectiveness
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I have a friend offering me a Honda CBR 125cc with 3000 kms on it for $1500. He says it's in excellent condition, what do y'all think?
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Wow that's a steal. You should certainly get it, if not I'll take it off your friends hand.
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back when i was in gr 10 i was dicking about with pocket bikes with a friend when we got in shit from the police. he ended up giving me a lecture and how if i was patient i'd have so much more fun on a real motorcycle and be street legal. after that, i read on and on about my first bike, gear, and kept hearing about pacific riding school on revscene. years later i finally committed to it after friends/coworkers pressed me on getting a bike

personally, i really wanted an r6, or a cbr 600rr, but i knew what was best for me. I waited for the right deal on a ninja 250r, undoubtedly the best starter bike, still decently stylish, and of course price was important (i spent about 3 grand on the bike -- just like your budget).

i have no regrets taking prs, or buying my 250. i hope at the very least if you jump straight on a 6 you go to a riding school. the other thing is if youre not too tall the learning curve on the r6 n cbr might make things tougher (gsxr the lowest of the 3 you listed). i'm 5'6 and i was glad i could put both my feet down on the 250, especially when i was learning.

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$1500 for a CBR125 with 3000km?

That's a freakin' steal, man!
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Thanks for the great feedback everyone!

And to answer the questions,
Yes for freedom of open air motoring
No, not really for speed
Yes, for cost effectiveness
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I have a friend offering me a Honda CBR 125cc with 3000 kms on it for $1500. He says it's in excellent condition, what do y'all think?
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In my opinion owning a bike can be just as expensive as owning a car. Aside from the bike itself, there's gear and insurance.

If you're wondering if a 125 is right for you, you need to ask yourself what do you foresee yourself using the bike for. Is it to commute? If so, do you need to take any highways? Also, depending on your build, a 125 may be too small for you. In addition, many people out grow a 125 very quickly, and would upgrade in a few months.

I would personally recommend starting on a 250, as you can still go on the highway, its more forgiving than most 600's and when it comes time to move on, it'll retain it value very well.
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my bike is much cheaper than my car! lol... but then again i ride old bikes, and my car is a rotary haha.
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honestly just get a hayabusa and be done with it. i hear there's tons of aftermarket support if you want to turbocharge it as well.
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how big are you (weight and height)?

if you're 6'0 200lb forget about the 125/250's, you'll feel like you're riding a mini-bike, just get a 600+

and take the school, it will save your life
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250-300cc is probably the best size you can get for your first bike. The power is manageable, inexpensive to purchase (relatively speaking) and re-sale after a couple of years won't hurt. Also the insurance and fuel costs are low (again comparatively speaking)

But the best thing you can do is take a riding course as recommended above, PRS is very popular and a solid school. Don't be the newb that we have to read about launching a bike into the back of a truck or into a tree.
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