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Old 05-09-2013, 08:59 AM   #276
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So my supervisor is saying I have to work until 430 on Tuesday because I have my yearly review at 4pm... Fuck that our rights are I have a 4 hr window free from work to vote and I will take my rights and don't give a fuck if it's my review or not.
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So my supervisor is saying I have to work until 430 on Tuesday because I have my yearly review at 4pm... Fuck that our rights are I have a 4 hr window free from work to vote and I will take my rights and don't give a fuck if it's my review or not.
In contrast my company broacast a big company wide email reminding everyone of their 4-hour window right to vote, and urged everyone to use it to go vote.
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Old 05-09-2013, 09:13 AM   #278
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Or you could use the 4 hour window to show up way late to work instead.
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Christy Clark's advance ballot in B.C. election sparks confusion - British Columbia - CBC News

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B.C. Liberal Leader Christy Clark caused some confusion when she cast an advance ballot in Burnaby on Wednesday.

Clark initially wrote her own name on the blank ballot, but she doesn't live in the riding she is running in so she made a change.

Clark took back her ballot and — in front of news cameras — wrote in the name of Vancouver–Fairview Liberal candidate Margaret MacDiarmid.

Don Main, communications manager with Elections BC, wouldn’t comment on Clark’s ballot specifically.

B.C. VOTES 2013How do your views fit into B.C.'s political landscape?
“The intent of the voter must be clear. So if a voter writes a name, feels they may have made a mistake and crosses it out and writes another name and the intent of the voter, the ballot would be counted,” he said.

“If the intent of the voter is not clear then it would be a rejected ballot.”

The B.C. Liberals say Clark's intention was clear, and believe the ballot will be counted.

Voters can cast ballots at advance polls for candidates in any riding, and are often handed blank ballots, meaning they have to write in the name of the candidate they are voting for.B.C.'s next provincial election is May 14.
Fml. Liberals making it hard on me to want to vote for them.
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Fml. Liberals making it hard on me to want to vote for them.
...But then I remember I don't want to vote for the NDP
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Old 05-09-2013, 11:12 PM   #282
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not a big politics person but I do watch videos and news about the election.

im confused now cause i was leaning towards liberals a couple weeks ago but now im not sure. it feels likes both parties are trying to provide the same thing. i guess i need to know the difference in both first
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not a big politics person but I do watch videos and news about the election.

im confused now cause i was leaning towards liberals a couple weeks ago but now im not sure. it feels likes both parties are trying to provide the same thing. i guess i need to know the difference in both first
It has probably been posted here already, but it doesn't hurt to do it again.

Go to this site and do the test:

British Columbia Votes 2013 - Vote Compass - CBC News

It takes about 10 mins and gives you an idea of where your political compass lands. Also, once you complete the test they break down the political parties on different topics: environment, economy, health, education, aboriginal issues, taxes, etc....you can compare and contrast each party.

This site is informative and is VERY user friendly! I encourage everyone to visit
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I forgot to take the vote compass...but it put me about where I expected.

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It has probably been posted here already, but it doesn't hurt to do it again.

Go to this site and do the test:

British Columbia Votes 2013 - Vote Compass - CBC News

It takes about 10 mins and gives you an idea of where your political compass lands. Also, once you complete the test they break down the political parties on different topics: environment, economy, health, education, aboriginal issues, taxes, etc....you can compare and contrast each party.

This site is informative and is VERY user friendly! I encourage everyone to visit
As useful as the political / vote compass is, I would caution that the voter should always take resulting analysis with a grain of salt. The problem is, while the tool will steer you towards your political leanings, it is an entirely different matter whether you should place your trust in the candidate / political party to follow through on their proposed policies.

For example, while I would classify myself with a slight leaning to the right, Crusty Clown's track record has thoroughly convinced me that she is completely lacking in her ability to lead this province. As such, even though my political leanings should have aligned with those of the Liberals, there is no way in hell I am going to vote for Crusty's party at this election.
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So i had the voting package mailed to me...

I'm having a tough time voting for someone.
I really hate how Clark handled the whole HST shenanigans, but voting for the NDP is just... I can't see anything good that will come out of it that will benefit the province in the long run.

So I said, screw it, at least I made the effort. Let's give the greens a chance.
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So i had the voting package mailed to me...

I'm having a tough time voting for someone.
I really hate how Clark handled the whole HST shenanigans, but voting for the NDP is just... I can't see anything good that will come out of it that will benefit the province in the long run.

So I said, screw it, at least I made the effort. Let's give the greens a chance.
Haha I was gonna say we should all just say fuck it and vote green so it'll get crusty cunt out, we don't have to worry about the pipelines and give them them a chance to show if they can make a change or not. Between Adrian Dix and crusty cunt what other alternatives are there
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As useful as the political / vote compass is, I would caution that the voter should always take resulting analysis with a grain of salt. The problem is, while the tool will steer you towards your political leanings, it is an entirely different matter whether you should place your trust in the candidate / political party to follow through on their proposed policies.

For example, while I would classify myself with a slight leaning to the right, Crusty Clown's track record has thoroughly convinced me that she is completely lacking in her ability to lead this province. As such, even though my political leanings should have aligned with those of the Liberals, there is no way in hell I am going to vote for Crusty's party at this election.
This is very true.

The most useful aspect of this site is the information after the questionnaire and the ability to compare and contrast with one click.
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When I picture Christy Clark in my head I keep thinking Sarah Palin. Both about on par with eachother.
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What are your thoughts on voting for an independent? There is one in my riding that seems to be getting a lot of attention but not sure if I'd be wasting a vote by voting for him if he doesn't win...
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What are your thoughts on voting for an independent? There is one in my riding that seems to be getting a lot of attention but not sure if I'd be wasting a vote by voting for him if he doesn't win...
I would only if I supported him and felt he had a shot to win. Chuck Cadman did it in the federal election and won a seat.
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I wonder how much of the NDP hate comes from memories of Mike Harcourt and Glen Clark, and how much comes from cynicism regarding BC's defacto two party system.
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I think, overall, Harcourt was liked....Clark...not so much. Clark really tanked the party.
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Heres a question. A lot of people say "Im going to vote Conservative/Green/Independent, to send a message that Im unhappy with the choices/system/whatever.

Does that send a message? Or is it effectively useless.
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I would think it would get the message across. I mean honestly, everyone knows of green party as a joke party. If they were to really win, think how much of a joke liberal party would become. It's like losing to a handicap guy in the Olympics... ok maybe not but you get the point. I personally know of a shit ton of ppl voting green just cause all other parties are crap.
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I just did the CBC Compass thing and I am pretty much dead centre with a bit leaning right. No political parties in BC represents my views. I wanna vote, and not waste it. Any suggestions?
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Heres a question. A lot of people say "Im going to vote Conservative/Green/Independent, to send a message that Im unhappy with the choices/system/whatever.

Does that send a message? Or is it effectively useless.
No, it's not useless; receiving above a minimum percentage of support entitles parties/candidates to receive a vote subsidy, participate in debates, and it affects public perception. If British Columbians had approved PR, we wouldn't be having this discussion....

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I just did the CBC Compass thing and I am pretty much dead centre with a bit leaning right. No political parties in BC represents my views. I wanna vote, and not waste it. Any suggestions?
I would suggest voting Green or Conservative. Why?

Supporting a less established party in this election will help to broad BC's political spectrum, and hopefully improve this province's horrible political landscape.

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^ Same here.
-Did CBC compass test
-Revealed that I'm close proximity to BC Conservatives
-Went to vote today
-No BC Conservative candidate in my riding
-Ended up voting for the party that I know will win by a landslide in my riding, and be re-elected too.

Wasted vote?
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Well...here is what I can see happening...

Liberal party will lose and be in a minority position against the NDP. Cons may pick up a handful of seats (MAYBE) and Green may get 1..possibly 2 (most likely on the Island or Coast).

Liberal party has a huge chance of imploding. They either dump CC and focus on rebuilding and come out swinging in the next election or die a slow death and consider merging with the Cons....maybe a little BC Reform style. OR they totally crumble and but the time the next election comes, they are dead and the Cons become the official Anti-NDP party...which, honestly, I'd kind of like to see.

If you do not want to vote NDP and you are not comfortable with the state of the Liberals right now, consider voting for the Conservative. The more people who vote for a party in this election will dictate who will go against the NDP in the next election.

I don't know if that made any sense...maybe?

As an aside, I was watching the news today and they were comparing the economy\provincial debt\spending under the last 4 leaders (Harcourt, Clark, Campbell, and Clark) and under the NDP, the province was ahead. The reason the BC Libs did so well in the last 10 years was due to commodity prices...not their management.

Its pretty obvious that I am an NDPer...I am not HARDCORE, but my vote tends to land with them more often than not. I think the crash of Christy Clark in the last 2-3 years was ridiculous and there is no way in hell I could vote for her. It has been one debacle after another and I can't handle the lies any longer. Also, the fact that the party plans to dump her seconds after the polls close does not instill a lot of faith in me in regards to the party as a whole.

Another thing you could do is see how your area voted in the previous election and go from there.
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Well...here is what I can see happening...

Liberal party will lose and be in a minority position against the NDP. Cons may pick up a handful of seats (MAYBE) and Green may get 1..possibly 2 (most likely on the Island or Coast).

Liberal party has a huge chance of imploding. They either dump CC and focus on rebuilding and come out swinging in the next election or die a slow death and consider merging with the Cons....maybe a little BC Reform style. OR they totally crumble and but the time the next election comes, they are dead and the Cons become the official Anti-NDP party...which, honestly, I'd kind of like to see.
Back in Feb / March-ish, I had mostly the same outlook as you do. But as the election campaign went on, I am continually surprised by how much the Liberals are hanging on or even re-gaining support. At the same time, I am surprised by how much people absolutely dread the NDP and their economic policies, to that point that they are still willing to stick with the Liberals despite their obvious incompetence.

I have no doubts that the NDP will win the election, but I no longer think the Liberals will implode anymore. Undoubtedly, Crusty Clown will be ousted, but how big the post election re-organization will be remains to be seen.
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