2014 Porsche 911 Turbo and Turbo S debut
 

http://www.autoblog....-turbo-s-debut/

Another 911 that won't come in MT.. can't wait to see them on the road!
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hmm front doesn't look too different from the regular 991

Evolution not revolution

0-60mph in 2.9 sec?

lol GT-R will smoke that shit no problem.

2014 Nissan GT-R Japanese Spec First Drive - Motor Trend

Timpo, you really need to just shut the fuck up and die.

If you are a 14 year old kid looking at stats on the internet, then yeah, it is fast in a straight line using launch control. Silly benchracer. I am willing to bet you NEVER drove one.

I actually drove a GT-R, a 2013...

My impressions of it were:

-Very stiff suspension
-Interior nothing to write about.
-Seats are excellent
-Visibility is poor
-Trunk opening is horrible, and limited space inside the trunk
-It felt boring. All you have to is set launch control and let the car do the rest.
-Too much electronics imo, takes away from the driving experiance
-Paddles are fun for a bit, but I miss a manual transmission.
-Styling is dull. Only colour I liked the GT-R in is red.
-It has NO issue putting the power down at all.
-Very heavy and you can feel the weight through turns.

Ended up buying a more engaging car then the GT-R and have no regrets. The GT-R is amazing though, just wasn't for me.

Why does someone ALWAYS compare a new car to the GTR.

Because it's probably the prettiest car on paper in the world. There's no denying that it is indeed a very, very good car, but all the electronic aids and such aren't for everyone. I haven't driven a GT-R though I have sat in one, but from the feedback I've heard from those who have, and those who have driven it on the track, they all seem to say it's quite an absolute beast on the track, but it does get boring after awhile.

lol i find it funny they feel like a $950 destination charge on a $150k+ car is an important thing to mention

I do like the suede in the R35 :SWEETJESUS:

OT: 911s now look similar to the 90s 911s because it's an iconic design. The Porsche 911 will always be the most iconic race car in my book.
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A sports car icon that gets even better performance. :D

-very reliable car too. JD Power rates Lexus and Porsche at the top of car reliability rankings:

http://autos.yahoo.com/blogs/motoram...2544256.html )

Race car or sports car? 911s are probably better known for being fantastic road cars, although I've always liked the 70s Martini and Jägermeister 935s.
The new Turbo will be killer for sure, although it's too bad manual trannies are no longer offered.

No, keep in mind these are Porsche-sourced numbers, and they tend to be conservative. Once the magazines/owners get a hold of them and get some proper numbers, I'm sure we'll see those numbers head south.

ok so how many of those list apply to the Porsche 911 Turbo? :suspicious:

A bunch! I know a lot of people on Rennlist who really wish the new Porsches have manuals.

I like
but I agree with Timpo
It will be a tough call between the GTR or Turbo S, they're similar, but also different cars.
It would make so much more sense for me to buy the GTR ($110k) vs Turbo S($180k)

But, does it have turbo?

http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/45/meme1hz.jpg

they might put out similar performance figures but to say "i'd pick a gtr over a turbo cuz its cheaper huehuehue" tells me you can't afford either one to begin with.

give me a carerra, doesn't matter how fast this is, no stick = boring as shit.
I don't understand how anyone who drives any stick sports car and any auto "sports" car could think that any auto was more fun.
and if you complain about traffic, you need to stop being a little bitch
/rant

Early this year i had the chance to go for a drive in a 2009 Carrera turbo S cabriolet, and its definitely amazing wikipedia says its about 523hp and it definitely felt so. The one thing I loved about it is the engine noise, it sounds like a jet engine is taking off behind you, and yes it was stick.

It's about being smart with your money charlieH. My $ 100k car is worth shit now.
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Carrera's high price does not justify as a fun to drive car...I guess you're paying for luxury.

If you want a something fun to drive, get a Miata...if you wanna go lighter, faster and mid-engine with less driving aids, go with the Elise. It's still a lot cheaper than 911, Cayman or Boxster.

If you want something bigger, get a 370Z for a fraction of price.

Porsche 911 Carrera
MSRP: $ 96,200
3.4L Flat 6
350hp, 287lb-ft
7 speed manual
0-60mph: 4.6 sec
http://hiconsumption.com/wp-content/...arrera-4-2.jpg

Nissan 370Z
MSRP: $ 40,978
3.7L V6
332hp, 270lb-ft
6 speed manual
0-60mph: 4.7 sec
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog....n-370z-opt.jpg