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Old 09-23-2013, 04:13 PM   #3076
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I really wonder what Kessel would get. IMO, it should be equal or greater than Kassian's suspension.

The first two slashes by Kessel can be called self defence. But his third on was completely intentional and unnecessary. Lets see what Shanny gonna do.
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at least they were slashes at the ankles
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if kassian gets 8 on a play where he didnt purposely try to hit him with the stick, does kessel get 20+ then? horrible decision makers
Kessel will get less, he didn't hurt anyone. Maybe his own feelings..

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Dam Kassian... What did you do broooooo

If Kessel doesn't get a suspension then the Sedins should start swinging away to try and 'defend' themselves come playoff time
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Kessel will get less, he didn't hurt anyone. Maybe his own feelings..

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suspending more for accidents, compared to actual intent to injure is completely retarded, no matter what injuries were sustained
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Kessels a superstar.

Superstars don't get lengthy suspensions

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suspension videos are up
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lol.. totally saw the games jumping up since Gagner is injured....but 8 LOL.
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8 games is pretty retarded, imo. If you look at some of the suspensions around the same length in the past, the plays seem a lot worse than Kassian's. Yes, he injured Gagner, yes, he was reckless, but 8 games? C'mon.

This check straight to the head got 8 games.


6 games.


2 games.


5 games.


I dunno, seems a bit off to me.

With Kassian / Jensen / Schroeder / Booth all possibly out to start the season, there looks to be an opening in the top 6. Will be up to whoever gets the chance to take it and run with it.
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Haven't had the time to get on CDC but I'm pretty sure they're going absolutely bananas
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Now Kassian gonna play like a pussy cause he'll be scared to get overly aggressive :/
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At the end of the day, you are responsible for your stick. He made a reckless play which directly resulted in the opponents jaw breaking.

This is the easiest suspension Shannahan is going to have all season. I can't fathom how you think it's not a suspend-able incident. You can't just look at it and say not a suspension. You have to apply the rules that govern the league. Regardless of how abstract and subjective they are.
Using all of the exact same rules you quoted, you also can't just look at the play and say "easiest suspension of the year". Kassian got his double minor in following those rules, if the refs felt it was an intent to injure they could have called a match penalty on the ice. You are responsible for your stick, yes, and Kassian got his penalty for not controlling his stick. Nowhere in the rules does it state the suspension in any way links to injury sustained by the receiving player or how long they are out for.

So the problem, as always, is consistency in suspension and justification for it. It would be borderline criminal IMO if Kessel doesn't get at least the same suspension, because he swung his stick not once, twice, but three times (in self defense after Scott was already dog-piled?) with an intent to injure, even though no injury was sustained. Players have had their legs broken on similar slashes in the past, so does Kessel get a pass because Scott has strong bones?
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Considering preseason games don't really hold much value (at least to regular roster players), It's really more like a 5 game suspension.

Still BS though. Should have been 2 regular season games max if anything.

But really, I don't see how this is any different from clipping someone in the jaw from a shot follow-through, and wrecklessly bringing up the stick too high.
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That looks a little painful, hahaha.
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I'm ok with a suspension, they have to draw the line somewhere with the rules so that's fine. I feel 5 (8) games is a bit much given the precedent. We'll see how the suspensions go the rest of the season, shoudl be entertaining to say the least :

Let's use this as a reference. 1 game suspension. No loss of control of stick, intent to swing stick and make contact. You can argue whether Keith aimed for Carter's face or shoulder, end result was still a slash to the face which resulted in the same double minor assessed during the game. That and Keith is a repeat offender

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With Kassian / Jensen / Schroeder / Booth all possibly out to start the season, there looks to be an opening in the top 6. Will be up to whoever gets the chance to take it and run with it.
Apparently schroeder only has a bone bruise, was seen walking around barefooted in the dressing room, so he should be ok for the season.. if he makes the team
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Using all of the exact same rules you quoted, you also can't just look at the play and say "easiest suspension of the year". Kassian got his double minor in following those rules, if the refs felt it was an intent to injure they could have called a match penalty on the ice. You are responsible for your stick, yes, and Kassian got his penalty for not controlling his stick. Nowhere in the rules does it state the suspension in any way links to injury sustained by the receiving player or how long they are out for.

So the problem, as always, is consistency in suspension and justification for it. It would be borderline criminal IMO if Kessel doesn't get at least the same suspension, because he swung his stick not once, twice, but three times (in self defense after Scott was already dog-piled?) with an intent to injure, even though no injury was sustained. Players have had their legs broken on similar slashes in the past, so does Kessel get a pass because Scott has strong bones?
I agree that consistency is lacking in suspensions and rationale, but did you not see Rule 60.6:

60.6 Fines and Suspensions - There are no specified fines or suspensions for high-sticking, however, supplementary discipline can be applied by the Commissioner at his discretion (refer to Rule 28).

In this case, supplementary discipline was applied.

Rule 28 - Supplementary Discipline
28.1 Supplementary Discipline - In addition to the automatic fines and suspensions imposed under these rules, the Commissioner may, at his discretion, investigate any incident that occurs in connection with any Pre-season, Exhibition, League or Playoff game and may assess additional fines and/or suspensions for any offense committed during the course of a game or any aftermath thereof by a player, goalkeeper, Trainer, Manager, Coach or non-playing Club personnel or Club executive, whether or not such offense has been penalized by the Referee.

As for "nowhere in the rules does it state the suspension in any way links to injury sustained by the receiving player or how long they are out for," one of the main criteria for a suspension is if the other player received an injury as a result. Watch the Shanaban video - he says the injury factored into his decision.

I don't agree with how the rules are written, but the Kassian suspension was an easy one for Shanny.

Kessell will get less if anything. No history, no injury sustained. It's a slippery slope, but that's how its been and will continue to be.
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kassian: no history, no intent, accidental. injury
kessel: no history, intent, took a SECOND swing. no injury
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Kassian intended to hit him with his stick, just not in the face resulting in a broken jaw. No question.
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