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A woman named Colleen Burns recently opened her eyes to find herself on an operating table in a hospital in Syracuse, NY. Looking around, she noticed that she was the subject of the operation. It turns out doctors were about to harvest her organs and send them to other waiting surgeons who would transplant them into other patients.
And how did it happen? Doctors falsely pronounced her dead by fraudulently claiming she had suffered "cardiopulmonary arrest" and "irreversible brain damage." This gave them the medical justification to start slicing away even while the woman's heart was still beating.
This is a big "holy crap I didn't know that" fact about organ donations: Doctors don't wait until you're really dead. At least not by any normal definition of "dead."
See, you and I think "dead" means your heart isn't beating, your brain isn't functioning, and you're lifeless. But hospitals -- which happen to generate huge profits from the trade of transplant organs -- have a strong financial incentive to declare you "medically dead" long before you're actually lifeless.
They can, in fact, declare you "dead" even when your heart is still beating and you still have brain activity. And they often do. This is how a lot of the organ harvesting in America actually gets done: patients that are on the verge of death (but not yet actually dead) are simply "declared" dead, then their organs are quickly removed, killing them for good.
It's a crime that takes place every day in America, where U.S. hospitals have been caught over and over again engaging in black market organ trafficking.
They came IN to the US from Israel. It was said so right in the video you posted. It's one part of the major corruption that was going on.
The guy did 3 kidney transplants, for $120K a pop. There is not enough of a supply of kidneys to meet the needs, so I guess rich sick people saw the market, and there was enough demand that they took the risk.
It doesn't mean they are 'harvesting' organs from people who are still alive.
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There are a lot of rumors/conspiracies about organ harvesting rings not only in America but throughout the world and tbh I don't find it too surprising that something like that would exist but not to the scale/severity that some would like us to believe
There are a lot of rumors/conspiracies about organ harvesting rings not only in America but throughout the world and tbh I don't find it too surprising that something like that would exist but not to the scale/severity that some would like us to believe
I already posted a more legit source... It happened, except it wasn't a case of evil jews harvesting organs from live patients, it was just a hospital fucking up with a brain dead patient who was no longer brain dead
You know, you can really build a conspiracy out of everything.
Save-On Foods offers foods to sell...FOR PROFIT. I tell you now, they conspire to make me hungry. I don't know how, but that Pattison guy(obviously jewish, it was probably Pattigoldberg) is raking it in on the conspiracy.
Dude! Come on! The story of a woman waking up to the operation of her own organ harvest is sensational enough. No need to glam it up with a conspiracy.
You know, you can really build a conspiracy out of everything.
After heart problems and cancer, arent doctors and hospitals in the top three, responsible for killing people?
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Save-On Foods offers foods to sell...FOR PROFIT. I tell you now, they conspire to make me hungry. I don't know how, but that Pattison guy(obviously jewish, it was probably Pattigoldberg) is raking it in on the conspiracy.
Dont you think you are conditioned to make fun and deflect of isreali atrocities or persons in high positions who claim to be Jews?
Palestinians
When these sources of organs are blocked from coming into New Brunswick and New York hospitals... where else are they going to look for body parts?
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Dude! Come on! The story of a woman waking up to the operation of her own organ harvest is sensational enough. No need to glam it up with a conspiracy.
Furthermore, the day before her organs were to be removed, a nurse had performed a reflex test – scraping a finger on the bottom of her foot. The toes curled downward – not the expected reaction of someone who's supposed to be dead.
Outside the operating theatre, her nostrils appeared to show signs of breathing, and her lips and tongue moved.
"Dead people don't curl their toes," said Dr Charles Wetli, a forensic pathologist from New Jersey. "And they don't fight against the respirator and want to breathe on their own."
Twenty minutes after those observations were made, a nurse gave Burns an injection of the sedative Ativan, according to records
Right, just a mistake... no conspiracy here.
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You know, you can really build a conspiracy out of everything.
Save-On Foods offers foods to sell...FOR PROFIT. I tell you now, they conspire to make me hungry. I don't know how, but that Pattison guy(obviously jewish, it was probably Pattigoldberg) is raking it in on the conspiracy.
Dude! Come on! The story of a woman waking up to the operation of her own organ harvest is sensational enough. No need to glam it up with a conspiracy.
Exactly, that's my issue with all this bullshit. Charlie is the boy who cries wolf, everything is a fucking conspiracy and one day he's actually going to post something that has some merit but everybody is going to be like fuck off Charlie you and your theory are once again full of shit. All these nutjobs....sorry I mean theorists are the same way, they look at everything and try and find some ulterior motive when in reality shit happens.
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CiC, you have a thread for consipracy and zionist stuff. That stuff stays there. I've edited your posts here for clarity but not content, however any future posts on those topics here will be moved to that thread. I don't enjoy banning people from threads, especially when it's threads they start.
Certainly, mistakes happen. And absolutely this is one of those cases. We can also tell that the issues go deeper because the patient in question's depression led her to suicide after this, and attempts beforehand (ie: what brought us to this incident). Did the hospital fail to follow its own procedures and listen to its staff (the nurses)? Absolutely. Is this a systemic failure? No.
Do people die in hospitals? Absolutely. But people are also on the whole living much longer. Some people are going back to the 'paleo diet' because it's more healthy and better for our bodies. People seem to forget that we used to live only to about the age of 40 if we were lucky, and that before modern agrarian developments we were typically about a foot shorter than we now find ourselves. Am I saying that our world is perfect now? No. But not everything can be blamed on the fault of individuals or groups (either real or imagined).
Shit happens. We are living in an fucking amazing time where information, both good and bad, can be had in an instant's notice; where we can push our voices and ideas across the entire world. Where previously-fatal diseases can be reduced to virtually nothing within the space of a generation (HIV/AIDS now only takes ARVs which reduces the viral load to below the threshold required to infect others). Where a heart attack is no longer fatal. Where being shot or stabbed or losing an eye or having brain damage, or even being torn in half no longer means death.
Now. You're welcome to debate the advantages and disadvantages of the medical system, but this thread should be limited to a discussion on the current system of organ harvesting, the ups and downs of the medical system, the effectiveness of our system of measuring 'death' and 'validity' and so on.
I dont know why you guys are so critical and hard on him. I find some of it humorous. I guess its just cus he goes against the grain of society.
The sheep meme is funny and does have a grain of truth to it as well.
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I dont know why you guys are so critical and hard on him. I find some of it humorous. I guess its just cus he goes against the grain of society.
The sheep meme is funny and does have a grain of truth to it as well.
It's not that he goes against the grain, it's that he always goes against the grain and although critical thinking is important he believes that there is an ulterior motive behind everything. Someone could get diarrhea and Chuckles will argue until he's blue in the face that it's a setup, dude on the shitter was actually poisoned because he knew to much.
The sheep picture was funny though.
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Its highly ironic that the only CiC is the only person on this forums actually post sources to back up his arguments. Crazy or not, he's one of the few members that doesn't just defecate all over his keyboard, and then proceed to call whoever disagrees with them idiots.
Its highly ironic that the only CiC is the only person on this forums actually post sources to back up his arguments. Crazy or not, he's one of the few members that doesn't just defecate all over his keyboard, and then proceed to call whoever disagrees with them idiots.
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