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Outrageous... will the officer get suspended with pay or without pay? |
They clearly weren't trained to handle mentally disabled children. In this case, they should have called an ambulance to sedate him first or something. Just a dumb mistake/oversight resulting in someone getting hurt. Sucks but it's not a big story. |
So if this was your child and an officer breaks his arm, your reaction would be... "oh that sucks, better luck training next time police"...? and the cheery on the top is him being charged for being mentally disabled! |
I'd be pretty mad that the cops tried to handle a situation that they weren't prepared for, yeah... so? |
Who knew common sense needed to be trained... but in reality its more like the police are trained to brutalize to the maximum force. |
It's not common sense necessarily... If it was any other kid, they either would have complied to verbal requests, or would have complied to having their arm cranked. This kid was mentally ill so did neither... if you have ever been shoulder locked like that, it HURTS. Usually you lay down on your stomach or just give up. This kid just sat there until his arm got dislocated... There are people who are trained specifically for handling this type of person. If it was all just "common sense" this wouldn't be necessary. |
To be fair...that kid did act completely normal after shit hit the fan. I don't think the officers meant to break his arm, but they should be responsible for the medical fees (cause US health care) . |
Common sense in my world, Im 140 pounds, would be to lift the child over my shoulders and out of the bus. In a police state where the officers are trained to terrorize citizens, then yes, brutalizing people is common sense. |
Gee, I never would have thought that you'd take it there :fuckthatshit: |
police? :crazy2: shouldnt a caregiver/teacher have handled it? and if that doesnt work call a parent police in NA these days pretty much only know how to use force |
properly trained or not, but that was a HUGE motion/force used by the police officer. Did you see how high of a rotation he used to bend in the arm? That's insane! This isn't a matter of not being trained, it's the matter of this particular officer didn't give a shit about the people he serves and just wanted to force the situation, ie. unsuitable to be an officer. He just carries on after the arm break as if nothing's happen... |
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The kid, albeit with mental health issues, made threats, so that's why the police were called. Paramedics where called and it appears the mother was there as this incident happened in the driveway of the kid's parents home and the mother approved of the plan for officers to physically remove him from the bus. Bottom line is the kid made threats and ignored multiple verbal commands from his mother, bus driver and police officers, so he had to be physically removed from the bus. Even if paramedics or a doctor where to sedate the kid first, proper protocol would require the officers to restrain the kid first before a paramedic/doctor would give the kid a sedative, for the paramedic/doctors safety. It's unfortunate the kid's arm got broken in the process, but the officers weren't wrong to physically remove him and restrain him. The only thing I might change here is not charging the kid with a misdemeanor and perhaps a different angle on applying the arm lock. |
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There were other ways of bringing that 16 year old child out, like dragging him by the feet, pulling him by the hair, kicking the child, using batons, mase, a bean bag gun... but no, yours and the officers assessment of danger are so great, that breaking his arm here was justified. "The kid made threats, I feel endangered!":concentrate: Full audio The only way to stop these incidents is to have an eye for an eye justice carried out, then the rest of the police officers would think twice about breaking peoples (specially kids and womens arms as other videos can found on YouTube) bones. |
thank god at least camera was there...otherwise cops would've made random stories |
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^totally agreed you should join the police force, there's clearly a need for people with your common sense. you wont help any kids ranting about it, time for you to go out there and make a difference. |
I kinda have to agree wit CIC here. the officers were not trained to deal with retarded people but it's not that hard to figure out. I mean, the officers are police officers that represent the government. They shouldn't be retards themselves. Lol what happened to officers of the law being upheld to a higher standard? But part of me doesn't blame them, because some people really are stupid. they take their training literally and dont have the ability to adjust and adjust their aggressiveness when given the discretion. like CIC says, hes 140, he woulda picked the kid up. these cops look like 200lbs+ meatbags. they coulda EASILY just carried the kid out. especially when there were more than 1 of them. this isnt even the worst part.... the worst part is there will be no training given, and this scenario will be repeated many times because the "cops did nothing wrong". |
the kid didnt tap out, that's why the cops broke the arm. :concentrate: |
do you really need training to move an unarmed fat kid? mental disabilities aside if it was just a normal pouting fat kid... they woulda broken his arm all the same. only kind of training i can see needed is so to prevent any emotional trauma |
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Uh, i would rather choose an arm lock (with the risk of breaking an arm) 10 times out of 10 instead of any of the alternatives you just listed as preferable. Posted via RS Mobile |
You better have a badge if you want to try that on your future children or you'd be thrown in jail. I'd hate to be your son. |
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I would call it Charles in Charge :D a big brother to help people in need... with a $50 fee. |
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And you wonder why police in the states hold on to their pistol every traffic stop they do. |
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could you imagine if everybody acted like this was their own kid? there'd be a mob tearing the officers to pieces by now :lol honestly, these stories get more attention than they're worth. Nobody agrees with what the officers did, but fear-mongering the public of police brutality is a little far |
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