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Old 03-19-2014, 12:33 AM   #1
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'Unequivocal' cell phones cause cancer


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Funny how they just say, "Hey, Person X used a cellphone on the right side of his head and, behold, he happened to have a tumour there!" There's no presentation of actual proof that the cause and effect are one and the same. The Granger causality test is strong in this piece and, as usual, shows how severely limited it is.
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Have brain tumors sky rocketed in the United States? Does the position of the tumors correlate to the hand in which the users hold a cell phone?
And most importantly would the industry release this kind of information?

Well we've seen shill doctors promoting cigarettes in past commercials when the powers that be knew they were cancer causing before hand... who's to say today's any different when the medical industry is so tainted.
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Unequivocally, CiC is an idiot.

Why aren't people getting tumors in their hands? People are always texting with their cell phones, placing the RF emissions right beside their hands. So where are all the people with hand tumors?

In fact, I'd bet cold, hard cash that todays cellphone spends far more time in your hands texting or browsing then it does beside your head.
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Not that I believe this crap, but who here would give up their cell phone if it was proven to increase the chance of cancer by say, 30 percent? Just curious.
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Phone calls? I don't think I make more than 1 a week on my cell phone hahah
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Doesn't CiC have his own thread for all his spewings? Who let him out of his cage?
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Phone calls? I don't think I make more than 1 a week on my cell phone hahah
exactly. If anything I'll get cancer in my hands from texting lol
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Maybe people who sleep on a certain side of their head can get cancer from their pillow
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Not that I believe this crap, but who here would give up their cell phone if it was proven to increase the chance of cancer by say, 30 percent? Just curious.
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I would. In a heartbeat! Hmmm discuss what the wife wants for dinner when I get home orrrrrrr brain cancer......
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The amount of radiowaves and microwaves we are exposed to are enormous at this day and age. With everything becoming wireless, who can really pinpoint which device are causing us harm. Bluetooth, wifi, radio towers.. we should consider when is it actually necessary to go wireless or not. Say if I'm right next to the stereo. Is it really necessary for me to use a wireless headphone?

For those who have heard and use Electromagnetic Chaos eliminator. Does it actually work for you or is it just another gimmick.
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that is a good point.
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Imagine you're a beam of radiation, would you want to put your head against a nice soft set of fatty tissue like a womens breasts and brain matter or a little boney hard tissued hand?

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If it doesnt plug into the ground sock of the electrical outlet it probably is a gimmick. A grounding pad or whats called an earthing mat should work though.
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headphones with a mic, problem solved!
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Imagine you're a beam of radiation, would you want to put your head against a nice soft set of fatty tissue like a womens breasts and brain matter or a little boney hard tissued hand?
that's a trick question.

i can imagine myself to be anything, and i would always choose the soft fatty tissue of a woman's breasts.
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If it doesnt plug into the ground sock of the electrical outlet it probably is a gimmick. A grounding pad or whats called an earthing mat should work though.
It doesn't just have to be plugged into the ground socket to eliminate EM energy. To "eliminate" electromagnetic (EM) energy (I refuse to call it "chaos" because I don't believe EM energy to be chaotic, its actually very well defined) you would have to build a grounded metal box around the thing that transmits/receives EM energy. Basically building a "Faraday Cage".

Now who wants to buy a $700 phone to put it in a metal box and never use it?

So yes, those stupid as stickers are just that, stickers. And if you paid for it then
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Imagine you're a beam of radiation, would you want to put your head against a nice soft set of fatty tissue like a womens breasts and brain matter or a little boney hard tissued hand
You should stop talking out of your ass. Radiation affects cells differently. Cells that actively reproduce (like white blood cells) are most susceptible to damage from radiation. Want to know what parts of the body are LEAST susceptible? Nerves, muscle and brain cells. That's right, brain cells are on the bottom of the list. Skin cells are in the middle.

BTW, this is for ionising radiation (one of only a VERY SMALL number of issues that are known to pose a risk for brain tumours). Non-ionising radiation is the type emitted by cell phones and similar devices.

Perhaps you should learn a bit before spewing a bunch of garbage that only serves to solidify the opinion pretty much everyone on RS has of you.
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