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04-30-2014, 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by StevenDuang  M3 for 65? A loaded one comes close to 95K....
Where are you getting these numbers??
LOL Loaded 57k?
This is my order WITHOUT metallic paint...  | Yeah sorry a Base M3 is like 77 or w/e. The E92's were only like 60-65 MSRP, I didn't realize the new model was so expensive. (Inflation's a bitch)
But as for the CLA you only need the first 3 lines and the navigation system which tallies up to 57k.
Its not my fault you paid 7 thousand for CF goodies.
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Also Even with all those extra non-sense items your subtotal before fees was only 69K.
SO you only spent 4K more than what this GTI would cost.
Also back to the S4/S5 example The base cars are only around 55-57. So you have 10k ish to play with in equipment before you reach the VW's level.
RE-EDIT: YOU PAID $500 FOR PAINT PROTECTION!? Please tell me you didn't actually fall into that scam...
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04-30-2014, 09:46 AM
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#27 | | I WANT MY 10 YEARS BACK FROM RS.net!
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oh fuck that shit who would spend $65k on a Golf?
That's like spending $65k on Civic.
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04-30-2014, 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by meme405 Yeah sorry a Base M3 is like 77 or w/e. The E92's were only like 60-65 MSRP, I didn't realize the new model was so expensive. (Inflation's a bitch)
But as for the CLA you only need the first 3 lines and the navigation system which tallies up to 57k.
Its not my fault you paid 7 thousand for CF goodies.
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Also Even with all those extra non-sense items your subtotal before fees was only 69K.
SO you only spent 4K more than what this GTI would cost.
Also back to the S4/S5 example The base cars are only around 55-57. So you have 10k ish to play with in equipment before you reach the VW's level.
RE-EDIT: YOU PAID $500 FOR PAINT PROTECTION!? Please tell me you didn't actually fall into that scam... |
No one said it was anyones fault, I don't need anything nor do I need a CLA45....
It's what I ended up choosing to go with the car, everyone has difference choices to what options should each purchase to accompany the car.
To you those are non-sense but to me they are essential and would save me the headache of going aftermarket with fitment issues and everything else.
The paint protection is auto-added and I have final say at delivery of the vehicle when they do the Freight and PDI.
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04-30-2014, 11:29 AM
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#29 | | Rs has made me the woman i am today!
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RE-EDIT: YOU PAID $500 FOR PAINT PROTECTION!? Please tell me you didn't actually fall into that scam...
| Not as bad as Audi detail charge. 600$ for them to "detail" your new car, put in mats and wheel locks. 
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04-30-2014, 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by StevenDuang M3 for 65? A loaded one comes close to 95K....
Where are you getting these numbers??
LOL Loaded 57k?
This is my order WITHOUT metallic paint... |
you paid $84k for a fucking CLA? wow...
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04-30-2014, 11:21 PM
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Can you find him a dealership that doesn't charge for options, tax, or destination charges? That's the way it is unfortunately. There are hidden costs in everything, especially cars.
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05-01-2014, 12:38 AM
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Originally Posted by multicartual 55k for a GTI...  | Apparently 16V Mk2's and original Corrado's weren't exactly cheap back in the day.. Just dreamin but was thinking about the new corvette at that price until the numb-nut salesman told me that its not a good idea to opt out of the chrome rims and swap snow tires in the winter  !
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05-01-2014, 02:14 AM
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Originally Posted by meme405 Yeah sorry a Base M3 is like 77 or w/e. The E92's were only like 60-65 MSRP, I didn't realize the new model was so expensive. (Inflation's a bitch)
RE-EDIT: YOU PAID $500 FOR PAINT PROTECTION!? Please tell me you didn't actually fall into that scam... | I wouldn't exactly say inflation is something you can blame for the price hike. In fact, some European countries right now stating price deflation( eg. Sweden, not sure about Germany.) Regardless, in America its only been around 1% for a while contrary to what a lot of financial advisors tell you.
Paint protection may be a scam but try leasing a Bimmer and knowing your girlfriend could curb-rash the wheels. Not a cheap lease obligation!
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05-01-2014, 08:03 AM
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I don't understand why everyone is thinking this is a bad deal? $55K for an exclusive/rare 400hp awd car? It will definitely holds it value, I think even better than R32s. Sure you could buy other cars for better value, but for VW fans, this will be the holy grail of GTIs. I would rock this as my daily driver for sure! I would much rather buy this for $55k than buy a standard GTI for $30K and sink in $10K for mods.
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05-01-2014, 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Z3guy I don't understand why everyone is thinking this is a bad deal? $55K for an exclusive/rare 400hp awd car? It will definitely holds it value, I think even better than R32s. Sure you could buy other cars for better value, but for VW fans, this will be the holy grail of GTIs. I would rock this as my daily driver for sure! I would much rather buy this for $55k than buy a standard GTI for $30K and sink in $10K for mods. | *65K.
Like I said, at 50K this car is a great deal. 55K its just another car in that price range to think about.
at 65K its out of its league.
EDIT: This is all just speculation, until they actually release the price.
If it comes in at 55k, the no worries.
@westopher, everything I talked about was pre-delivery fees and taxes and all that mumbo jumbo. There is no way you will escape that shit.
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05-01-2014, 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Z3guy I don't understand why everyone is thinking this is a bad deal? $55K for an exclusive/rare 400hp awd car? It will definitely holds it value, I think even better than R32s. Sure you could buy other cars for better value, but for VW fans, this will be the holy grail of GTIs. I would rock this as my daily driver for sure! I would much rather buy this for $55k than buy a standard GTI for $30K and sink in $10K for mods. | x2
It's not a full run production car. It's a limited edition vehicle with 400hp and AWD; it just happens to have a VW badge and is based on a GTI. There's nothing else in that price range with the same specs. Sure, an STI is cheaper, but it's 100hp less, an M4 starts at $74k, the CLA is $5k cheaper but has 50hp less, etc., etc. Besides, these aren't it's true competitors anyway. This GTI is the definition of a hot hatch and isn't necessarily designed to compete with the aforementioned vehicles.
The only real competitors it has is the A45 AMG (in Europe, at least) which has 40 less hp, though I believe it's priced pretty closely to what the R400 is going to be.
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05-01-2014, 08:54 AM
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#37 | | RS has made me the bitter person i am today!
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Originally Posted by Lomac It's not a full run production car. It's a limited edition vehicle with 400hp and AWD; it just happens to have a VW badge and is based on a GTI. | Actually this is just a concept car, we have no information on pricing, or production.
They could very well make it a limited edition vehicle, or they could make as many as people buy.
My sentiments above are based on a full run production car, if they are going to limit production to 100 or 1000 units, then they can charge whatever they like and I'm sure the vast GTI following will snap them up.
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05-01-2014, 09:12 AM
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#38 | | Willing to sell body for a few minutes on RS
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Originally Posted by meme405
@westopher, everything I talked about was pre-delivery fees and taxes and all that mumbo jumbo. There is no way you will escape that shit.
Atleast not legally... | I know, it was a comment towards Knight. He seems so stunned that someone spent that on a CLA, but like 10k+ of that is taxes. No way around it.
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05-01-2014, 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by meme405 Actually this is just a concept car, we have no information on pricing, or production.
They could very well make it a limited edition vehicle, or they could make as many as people buy.
My sentiments above are based on a full run production car, if they are going to limit production to 100 or 1000 units, then they can charge whatever they like and I'm sure the vast GTI following will snap them up. | The article I originally linked to used to have an imbedded link that talked about the pricing, which was $55k. Seems that it's now gone, so it was likely just some speculative talk that they didn't want to be associated with anymore. Either way, I think it's a fair assumption that it will likely be around the $50k mark. This is my own speculation here but I don't believe VAG will be making this as a full run production vehicle. I think it's more of a technical exercise that they decided to put for sale. It could simply be a money loser that VW has decided to sell purely to showcase their ability to reliabily drag 400 horses out of a 2L. I've also a feeling we'll be seeing this same engine in one or two Audi's in the near future.
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05-01-2014, 09:22 AM
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^ I think you are right about seeing that motor in a variety of Audi.....my guess would be the S4, maybe S3 and A6/7
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05-01-2014, 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by westopher Can you find him a dealership that doesn't charge for options, tax, or destination charges? That's the way it is unfortunately. There are hidden costs in everything, especially cars.
Posted via RS Mobile | oh i'm well aware. i bought my f150 new in 2011. i think i paid around $8k for bs fees and taxes. but in all honesty, $84k for a CLA? i just cant wrap my head around why anyone would even bother paying that much for a "lower end" mercedes. sure its an AMG but like musto said in that video that meme405 posted, it just doesnt seem to fit the bill as an AMG.
i dont know. to me an AMG is supposed to be like this living fire breathing beast with this huge v8... CLA just feels like it should have stayed as an entry level mercedes sans AMG.
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05-01-2014, 11:13 AM
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Its the same thing with every brand though. X6M? Give me a fucking break. AMG is 3 letters that sell cars, M is one letter that sells cars, etc. Its just that in this thread people tend to pick and choose which cars have tax, destination and option charges and which don't to make something look cheaper/more expensive than another to support their argument. I do however disagree that the cla45 is any less of an AMG car based on the engine thats in it. Its fast and handles well. It doesn't matter if its a 4 banger or an 8 that gets it there. Remember the quintessential AMG car, the 190e EVO was a 4 cylinder. The ultimate M car the e30 m3 was a 4 cylinder. People will pay 84k for a "low end mercedes" because a high end mercedes is 130k+ and they don't want to spend that.
This is fucking bonkers but now I'm going off topic. Whatever, relish in their awesomeness.  
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05-01-2014, 12:28 PM
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#43 | | What hasn't Killed me, has made me more tolerant of RS!
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Not sure if the term "Q-cars" exist anymore as most cars reach 40km/hr over the limit with ease nowadays. I really hope they keep this Golf R as tame looking as possible. Some people comment on if my car is fast but I respond, no, it stands for "really slow".
Damn I wish I could of kept my e30 M3 Only if I had the space in this crazy city..
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05-01-2014, 12:37 PM
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RS eh. I'm curious what kind of RS we are talking about here.......
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05-01-2014, 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by lowside67 We are not going to sit here and compare new cars to used... "Why would I buy a new 128i when I could buy a used Ferrari Testarrosa?" | Funny you bring up the Testarossa as Road and Track? had a segment on it this month. Friggin thing is basically neck to neck to a V6 Mustang but it gets 9mpg! Depressing but drool....
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05-01-2014, 03:08 PM
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Totally... 9mpg, way less comfortable, and a bajillion dollars to maintain... sweet!!
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Testarossa is an iconic Ferrari, flat 12 cylinder? hell yeah.
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05-01-2014, 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Knight_KB oh i'm well aware. i bought my f150 new in 2011. i think i paid around $8k for bs fees and taxes. but in all honesty, $84k for a CLA? i just cant wrap my head around why anyone would even bother paying that much for a "lower end" mercedes. sure its an AMG but like musto said in that video that meme405 posted, it just doesnt seem to fit the bill as an AMG.
i dont know. to me an AMG is supposed to be like this living fire breathing beast with this huge v8... CLA just feels like it should have stayed as an entry level mercedes sans AMG. | I have a S550. I bought it CPO slightly used 2 years old. Including taxes I lost 18K a year in depreciation. Options like night vision and panoramic sunroof add nothing to resale. That guy has almost 20K in options ouch. An AMG will depreciate even faster. You can get a 2-year old CLS63 AMG for $82-$88K now. That's almost 50% off from new in 2 years.
Remember that now you have to pay an extra 3% tax on any car over $55k, even used. I think leasing is the only way to go nowadays for German cars.
For the best value Porsche is the winner. I've been looking at a 911 but the 991 Carrera 4S prices depreciate so slow
In the end though, its his money and he can do whatever he wants.
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