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RRxtar 08-10-2014 09:40 PM

Nah. I'm just an adult and don't have the time or patience to involve myself in Internet arguing or trolls. I just read things that interest me and don't get all emotional when something isn't right with the Internet

CharlesInCharge 08-10-2014 09:59 PM

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A Thursday article in the New Straits Times, Malaysia's flagship English-language newspaper, charged the US- and European-backed Ukrainian regime in Kiev with shooting down Malaysian Airlines flight MH 17 in east Ukraine last month. Given the tightly controlled character of the Malaysian media, it appears that the accusation that Kiev shot down MH17 has the imprimatur of the Malaysian state.
KUALA LUMPUR:
US analysts conclude MH17 downed by aircraft
US analysts conclude MH17 downed by aircraft | New Straits Times

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INTELLIGENCE analysts in the United States had already concluded that Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 was shot down by an air-to-air missile, and that the Ukrainian government had had something to do with it.

This corroborates an emerging theory postulated by local investigators that the Boeing 777-200 was crippled by an air-to-air missile and finished off with cannon fire from a fighter that had been shadowing it as it plummeted to earth
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“There have been two or three pieces of fuselage that have been really pockmarked with what almost looks like machinegun fire; very, very strong machinegun fire,” Bociurkiw said in the interview.
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“Nobody before Haisenko had noticed that the projectiles had ripped through that panel from both its left side and its right side. This is what rules out any ground-fired missile,” Parry had said.
http://assets.nst.com.my/images/arti...ransformed.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/eihYD0j.jpg

Ball.J.Inder 08-10-2014 11:10 PM

related


4444 08-10-2014 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CharlesInCharge (Post 8514919)

that image could be perceived as being bullet holes, or it could be perceived as to be damaged incurred by the ground to air guided missle that is more likely to have bought it down.

the BUK missile system sends up guided rockets that, in this case, explode next to the target, there is shrapnel that will pierce the plane, hence these types of marks.

also, why on earth are you saying bullet holes, this isn't world war 2, planes don't shoot other planes down with regular guns anymore, if you want to shoot down a plane, air to air missile, as such you'd have a somewhat similar impact to a ground to air missile.

i'm no military expert, not by any stretch of the imagination, but i do have common sense, something CiC is evidently lacking, he'll just believe anything on the cracker conspiracy theory websites.

utter BS what CiC spews.

you can always find jesus' face in toast, doesn't mean he's anything more than your wild imagination.

Alby 08-10-2014 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CharlesInCharge (Post 8514907)
Funny I dont remember you ever calling me out on any of my posts... I guess you're too smart and an important person to waste your time in disproving my claims.

that right there shows me that you always think you are right and would not open your mind for discussion or even accepts other peoples opinion. there is no point trying to debate or even discuss anything with you.

RacingMetro92 08-11-2014 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CharlesInCharge (Post 8514907)
Was 911 an inside job? If your answer is
Yes = I agree
No = I think your brain matter is the size of a midget

This statement is why you're an idiot. If we don't agree with you, anything we say is dismissed. This is why no one can ever take anything chuck says with any weight because there's a refusal to acknowledge doubt of any kind of his "facts" when it's merely speculation. Until Charles acknowledges questions, I say we ban him from making new threads because they should be in his fight club thread.

So, back to the question I asked months ago after answering all of yours in your fight club thread: did the Holocaust happen or are you going to deny that too?

4444 08-11-2014 09:14 AM

CiC, i think this is the end for you. can a mod agree and ban teh troll. he is shown to be wrong day after day after day!!!

what a cracker

JDął 08-11-2014 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CharlesInCharge (Post 8514919)

LOL! This is too rich. I'll just leave some actual 30mm cannon damage here.

http://www.afrc.af.mil/shared/media/...-3849K-041.JPG
Source: http://www.afrc.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123063402

It really is time to ban this fucking goof from making any new threads (or outright).

CharlesInCharge 08-11-2014 01:48 PM

Welcome to my ignore list.

If anyone is wondering why I started a new thread on this, its because I was banned for saying the same thing weeks ago in the other thread.
http://www.revscene.net/forums/69678...ml#post8505440

Lomac 08-11-2014 01:54 PM

I'm pretty sure JD13 flies fighter jets in the air force, so if anyone knows what 30mm damage looks like, it'd be him...

Hondaracer 08-11-2014 02:06 PM

Shows what actual 30mm fire looks like

"Welcome to my ignore list"

Jesus, you're a clown. Maybe devote your life to somthing productive. At the end of the day even if you were right on an eighth of the shit you spew no ones gonna give a shit.

CharlesInCharge 08-11-2014 02:10 PM

Hondaracer added to ignore list.

Im sure he also has a magic ball to know the length of Ukrainian field grass and compare it to the bullet hole sizes to make that assessment.

Presto 08-11-2014 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by CharlesInCharge (Post 8515185)
Welcome to my ignore list.

...which we know is total BS. You end up reading it all. The ignore list is used as your personal, psychological pacifier for the times (often) that you get smacked with undeniable truth.

CharlesInCharge 08-11-2014 02:20 PM

http://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-cont...it-284x320.jpg

MH17 Shootdown ? The Investigation Continues | Veterans Today

Lomac 08-11-2014 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CharlesInCharge (Post 8515196)
Im sure he also has a magic ball to know the length of Ukrainian field grass and compare it to the bullet hole sizes to make that assessment.

And you do?

CharlesInCharge 08-11-2014 02:34 PM

Why dont you first find a Harper Fellating news source that even talks about the riddled holes in the MH17, then come back here and post.

RacingMetro92 08-11-2014 05:53 PM

Or find an actual news source that's outside of one you've used because your're contradicting yourself by using PressTV/RT as a source when Lomac has posted something from that source and you denied it.

I don't get your deal. Someone did EXACTLY what you wanted (use a non "harper-fellating") news source and you STILL didn't accept it because it opposed your views.

You don't need a news source from SOMEONE IN THE FUCKING MILITARY (allegedly) who can SHOW what 30mm bullet holes look like. You know what that makes him? AN EXPERT. JD is more qualified than any tin foil news hat source you could ever post! Why? Because he has first hand experience and deals with this shit on the regular.

By ignoring him you've acknowledged to everyone here that you will never accept an alternative view. You're worse than the so called "Zionists" that "allegedly" hide the fact that 9/11 was an inside job and the holocaust was actually done by them to perpetuate sympathy for their world domination...or some shit like that. You'll never be taken seriously for this, so maybe you should keep to your own corner of RS and stop posting new threads that already have this content.

CharlesInCharge 08-11-2014 06:27 PM

I'll give you guys the narrative... the ZioAmericans have set this up.

Accuse Russia of shooting down the plane,

Put temporary sanctions on Russian (So far 500 billion+ of trade on the line? or Putin has already cut this through the US and EU) to scare him and have him lose support for Syria's Assad. (for building greater Isreal).

When needed blame the shoot down on a bunch of boobs (young "revolutionary" Ukrainian soldiers) which mistook the plane for a "Putin" military signal on the radar.

An enthusiastic prime minister (with headlines of this Zionist connected banker trying to resign! actually) innocently passing on dubious evidence to speed up their revolution against the "blood thirsty" great bear Russia.
Plus he was bullied into it by the replacement Nazi leader that's built like Frankenstein.


http://i.imgur.com/Ee1J8Tg.jpg
http://journal-neo.org/wp-content/up...-tyahnybok.jpg

Then keep trying to take over the world
btw they are desperate in Iraq too trying to oust the current Prime minister as ISIL is loosing ground.

Edit-

But Russsia could have an Ace up its sleeve which it may be keeping to its self right now. Good footage of the crash scene showing the new puppet Ukrainians responsible....
Interestingly what is hurting the ZioAmericans is the fact that this could push more major countries (part of the BRICKS group) to trade more commodities like food, and stay off the Petro Dollar!

kunoman1 08-11-2014 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CharlesInCharge (Post 8515185)
Welcome to my ignore list.

If anyone is wondering why I started a new thread on this, its because I was banned for saying the same thing weeks ago in the other thread.
http://www.revscene.net/forums/69678...ml#post8505440

You do know there was a reason why you were banned from the other thread... :rukidding:

CharlesInCharge 08-11-2014 06:42 PM

Calling people brainwashed for jumping the gun on Russians being the guilty party?

Lomac 08-11-2014 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CharlesInCharge (Post 8515213)
Why dont you first find a Harper Fellating news source that even talks about the riddled holes in the MH17, then come back here and post.

http://www.newsweek.com/malaysia-air...uggests-260483

There, that done... tell me more about this magic ball you own that supersedes a fighter pilot's knowledge of weapon damage...


The more I look at the photo, the more convinced I am that it's definitely not 30mm cannon fire.

Compare the typical Russian (and, by extension, Ukraine)'s ammo, the 30x113

http://i.imgur.com/cufyU2o.jpg

to the holes in the aluminum.

The following image is .223 ammunition blown through a chunk of aluminum

http://www.phossil.com/thom/SIG%20556/Frying%20Pan.jpg

RacingMetro92 08-11-2014 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CharlesInCharge (Post 8515327)
I'll give you guys the narrative... the ZioAmericans have set this up.

Accuse Russia of shooting down the plane,

Put temporary sanctions on Russian (So far 500 billion+ of trade on the line? or Putin has already cut this through the US and EU) to scare him and have him lose support for Syria's Assad. (for building greater Isreal).

When needed blame the shoot down on a bunch of boobs (young "revolutionary" Ukrainian soldiers) which mistook the plane for a "Putin" military signal on the radar.

An enthusiastic prime minister (with headlines of this Zionist connected banker trying to resign! actually) innocently passing on dubious evidence to speed up their revolution against the "blood thirsty" great bear Russia.
Plus he was bullied into it by the replacement Nazi leader that's built like Frankenstein.


http://i.imgur.com/Ee1J8Tg.jpg
http://journal-neo.org/wp-content/up...-tyahnybok.jpg

Then keep trying to take over the world
btw they are desperate in Iraq too trying to oust the current Prime minister as ISIL is loosing ground.

Edit-

But Russsia could have an Ace up its sleeve which it may be keeping to its self right now. Good footage of the crash scene showing the new puppet Ukrainians responsible....
Interestingly what is hurting the ZioAmericans is the fact that this could push more major countries (part of the BRICKS group) to trade more commodities like food, and stay off the Petro Dollar!

The amount of speculation in this series of sentences is so insane I don't think anyone can deny it because if we do you'll still think you're right because of how highly and "right" your "sources" are.

This video is the first thing that came to my mind as soon as I finished reading that. I have never honestly read something where this is as appropriate as it's ever been. May whoever you call God have mercy on your soul.




CharlesInCharge 08-11-2014 07:06 PM

@Lomac
That one doesnt really serve Harper like the local girls we have in town. Find another source to win.

Also are doubting the American intelligence source and the Malaysian flagship, English news service for being believing this caliber size?

Misc large bullets compare to a hand.
http://i.imgur.com/qPBHNah.jpg
SydesJokes: Big Gun (Airplane Included)

CharlesInCharge 08-11-2014 07:14 PM

http://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-cont...5974411652.jpg

The other thing is if Russia is saying they picked up a military plane leveling off to the airliner before it crashed, why doesnt the U.S. just release their satellite photos showing the sky was clear...

Skimming through the theories I'd say the mystery military jet rocketed the airliner then shot the cabin with bullets to disable the pilots and have it crash right over a pocket of ground for infiltrating into the Russian freedom fighters bases when recovery EU personal demand to section off the crash site.

The military jet being spotted next to the civilian could also double work for the excuse of new Ukrainian soldiers shooting the civilian one down.

Lomac 08-11-2014 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CharlesInCharge (Post 8515360)
@Lomac
That one doesnt really serve Harper like the local girls we have in town. Find another source to win.

Also are doubting the American intelligence source and the Malaysian flagship, English news service for being believing this caliber size?

Misc large bullets compare to a hand.
http://i.imgur.com/qPBHNah.jpg
SydesJokes: Big Gun (Airplane Included)

Uh, that was kinda my point about 30mm ammo. The holes shown in the MH17 fuselage are too small to be 30x113 gun fire.


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