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Old 10-25-2015, 12:49 AM   #151
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Anyways race if over my 2 cents...


I have a big issue with how marquez slowed down to let Lorenzo pass... other than that another big problem I have is how Marquez dives Rossi and trying to pass him like 4-5 times in that span it looked ruthless, looked like Marquez deadly wants to make Rossi crash as he had nothing to lose.

Finally the kick, after watching a few videos it looked like that marquez's helmet touched Rossi's leg at the end and he just flinched.
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But what do I know, I could be biased hell look at who I am routing for.
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Looks like contact was made PRIOR to the kick, and the kick could have been a mere "fuck off" or just a reaction...

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IMO Rossi really f'ed up
I enjoyed the battle until some one got pushed out
If no93 is playing dirty then out ride him.
I'm new to motogp I liked both Rossi and Marques haha
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Well that's done. But IMO the championship was gone @ Silverstone.
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What material are the rotors made of on those gp bikes? Looks way too Dark in the gif posted above to be just plain old steel
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What material are the rotors made of on those gp bikes? Looks way too Dark in the gif posted above to be just plain old steel
They're carbon ceramic. Really light (-5ish lbs) compared with steel with crazy bite (once warmed up).
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What material are the rotors made of on those gp bikes? Looks way too Dark in the gif posted above to be just plain old steel
Carbon-carbon discs in dry weather

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MotoGP Malaysia: Rossi: Marquez made me lose the championship

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I'm extremely conflicted about this... it was such a strange day of racing.

-Horrible, messy Formula 1 race in Austin. I'm a HUGE Hamilton fan but seeing the championship decided with THREE more races remaining is atrocious for the sport.
-seeing Hamilton drive Rosberg right off the track in turn one was terrible.
-my GF was filled with glee all day with the Hamilton win though, which is good!

As for the MotoGP race....

-epic dual to start the race and then BAM ... it was done... like the announcers said, Pedrosa's win was completely overshadowed by Marquez's crash.
-I'm not sure if what Rossi did was flagrant... when Marquez dipped his bike and made contact with Rossi I'm not sure if it was because he wanted to draw some contact, push Rossi to speed up and make the turn or if he did it because he was anticipating that Rossi was going to turn and Rossi intentionally went wide...
-I don't blame Rossi's reaction ... it's the circumstances that led to that that have me baffled....

Noir - I completely agree... the strategy of Silverstone dictated the outcome of the championship...
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Race Finish

1 - Pedrosa
2 - Lorenzo
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Current Standings

1 - Valentina Rossi - 312 pts
1 - Jorge Lorenzo - 305 pts
3 - Marc Marquez - 222 pts
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They're carbon ceramic. Really light (-5ish lbs) compared with steel with crazy bite (once warmed up).
Was wondering about it, since carbon ceramic brakes love heat and need to be hot to really perform. Was wondering if a bike would be able to push it enough. But clearly so!

Awesome race by the way. Mike Webb said exactly what my thoughts were on the whole situation
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Some interesting commentary... worth watching the video with the analysts as well...

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Well that's done. But IMO the championship was gone @ Silverstone.
Haven't been following MotoGP all that closely this year.
What happened in Silverstone for you to say this?
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Haven't been following MotoGP all that closely this year.
What happened in Silverstone for you to say this?
Rossi was doing great all season so far. He doesn't win as much as Lorenzo, not even anywhere near close to Marquez's level last year, but he always put in good and consistent efforts race-in-race-out and always finishes in the podium. He lead MotoGP by consistency of good effort and results not neccesarily by domination like when Lorenzo or Marquez would.


Silverstone is when the turning point when Rossi changed his game. Instead of playing the races straight up, he starts playing these extra games (Extra games against Lorenzo [Silverstone] & Marquez [Malaysia]) which ultimately both have cost him the Championship.

By extra games (in Silverstone), it's when he played Chicken with Lorenzo with the wet tires. When the circuit dried up, the key part of the race was choosing the how soon or how late the racers would switch from their wet bikes to their dry bikes. Lorenzo & Rossi stayed the latest with Rossi ultimately being last. Lucky for him, Lorenzo crashed out of the race because Rossi was losing 10 seconds per lap with the game he was playing with Lorenzo; and it was the first race of the season he finished out of the podium. Sure he beat Lorenzo when he crashed out, but by finishing 5th he only got 10 points out of it when he may have possibly gotten a full 25 or at least 20.


Honestly, if Rossi just kept it steady and raced Silverstone and even Malaysia just straight up, he would still be fighting for a Championship rather than having it gifted to Lorenzo by Marquez which is pretty lame for how this season has already concluded.
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You mean in motegi right the delayed biked change. Silverstone Marques crashed
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Why is it definitive that he has lost the championship. Is he not still leading by 7 points? Yes he starts at the back of the grid but what if Lorenzo bails next race, or Rossi does some mental position climbing
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You mean in motegi right the delayed biked change. Silverstone Marques crashed
Right, I had my races mixed up.

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Why is it definitive that he has lost the championship. Is he not still leading by 7 points? Yes he starts at the back of the grid but what if Lorenzo bails next race, or Rossi does some mental position climbing
He may lead by 7 points but you're hoping for a Lorenzo crash out; an event that unless Rossi purposely torpedoes Lorenzo himself next race, he has absolutely no control over it. And even if he were to torpedo Lorenzo, he'd have to catch him from the back of the grid.
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IMO Rossi really f'ed up
I enjoyed the battle until some one got pushed out
If no93 is playing dirty then out ride him.
I'm new to motogp I liked both Rossi and Marques haha
I am not sure if we looked at the same videos and gifs?

I won't even go into the case of how Marquez is sandbagging and truly dropping back just to fuck with Rossi.

To be if it was just the incident of that hit, I watched it a million times and noticed Marquez made INITIAL CONTACT and without that contact there would be no crash.


There are so much evidence that I has already been proven but I'll just leave this here


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I am not sure if we looked at the same videos and gifs?

I won't even go into the case of how Marquez is sandbagging and truly dropping back just to fuck with Rossi.

To be if it was just the incident of that hit, I watched it a million times and noticed Marquez made INITIAL CONTACT and without that contact there would be no crash.


There are so much evidence that I has already been proven but I'll just leave this here


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let me clarify about "being pushed out" it was about Rossi pushing him wide which he admitted to that is all.

You even admitted in your previous post "LAST RACE WAS AMAZING? TRY THIS ONE.... I AM HAVING A HEART ATTACK WATCHING RIGHT NOW." Why didn't you mention Marques that dirty basdard then? I just enjoyed the "battle" too but it was sad after the incident mainly for Rossi
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Gc8 rides a cbr1000 repsol right? And pretty clear who vale46rossi supports


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Gc8 rides a cbr1000 repsol right? And pretty clear who vale46rossi supports


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Don't forget about the 93 helmet. I also have Rossi helmet I am waiting for the sharky to come out.

I wish it was a 1000rr repsol haha it's a 600rr

I'm not fighting ok I'm a nice guy . I just believe both have fault and for Rossi sake I wish he handled it differently. The outcome isn't gonna change now and I am sad truly
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