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Old 03-30-2015, 01:56 PM   #26
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I've been pulled over by this same cop, and funny enough my window was not smashed?

Theres no point in arguing with a cop about your legal rights and how you dont need to roll your window down 0.000125 inchs, how you can film him etc etc

Just STFU and be polite and a cop usually wont have a "power trip".
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Kid: "sir you pulled me over for a motor vehicle violation"
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Kid: "i have not done anything wrong for you to do this for me"
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Kid: "what have i done"
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cop ended up actually explaining in a calm manner before he broke the window for not complying.
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Time and time again... don't talk to the police.
This kind of escalation likeley wouldn't have happened if the YouTuber just sat there and looked stupid silently.

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Kid: "sir you pulled me over for a motor vehicle violation"
Cop: "excellent"
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Kid: "i have not done anything wrong for you to do this for me"
Cop: "actually you have"
Kid: "what have i done"
Cop: "i smell marijuana coming out of the vehicle"

cop ended up actually explaining in a calm manner before he broke the window for not complying.
Apparently the smell of burnt marijuana is NOT sufficient grounds to make an arrest and search a vehicle:

Smell of weed no longer grounds for arrest, search

He actually has a leg to stand on here. What happened to him sounds exactly like what happened as described in that article, and that case was ultimately thrown out.
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Apparently the smell of burnt marijuana is NOT sufficient grounds to make an arrest and search a vehicle:
Burnt, maybe. Fresh bud has a very distinct odor as well, and if he's carrying enough to be considered trafficking, it would be pretty strong.

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He actually has a leg to stand on here. What happened to him sounds exactly like what happened as described in that article, and that case was ultimately thrown out.
Doesn't change the fact that had he simply got out of the vehicle when he was asked, he would never had got his window smashed. He could have got out, answered their questions, and either been on his way, OR they might have searched his car and found... whatever... and then that might have been thrown out later. MAYBE. We don't know what else in this situation may have given the cops probably cause to search his car; all we have to go on is the snippet of video that dipshit has chosen to share because it supports his claim.
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Burnt, maybe. Fresh bud has a very distinct odor as well, and if he's carrying enough to be considered trafficking, it would be pretty strong.
Not necessarily. Apparently it's 30g or more to get charged with trafficking, which is like a sandwich bag or so, which isn't that much.

Obviously nobody except those officers themselves know whether they smelled fresh bud, or burnt marijuana... but my guess it's the latter.

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Doesn't change the fact that had he simply got out of the vehicle when he was asked, he would never had got his window smashed.
The question at the end of the day is whether the officer actually had sufficient grounds to demand he get out of his vehicle. That is what's being debated, and the answer doesn't seem to be a clear yes.
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Not necessarily. Apparently it's 30g or more to get charged with trafficking, which is like a sandwich bag or so, which isn't that much.
No, but if he's been doing it for a while... that smell can linger.

No, I don't know this because I've done it. Working in the music biz though, I've worked around a lot of chronics. When they carry it constantly, that smell can get trapped up in anything cloth.

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Obviously nobody except those officers themselves know whether they smelled fresh bud, or burnt marijuana... but my guess it's the latter.
True... also, the article doesn't specify exactly WHAT he's charged with trafficking. They have have found a dozen pounds of heroin, for all we know.

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Not a clear no, either. But if you put it together with all the other behaviour we see (or hear) from the driver on this video, I'd lean toward the cops' story. Why does he not just roll the window down, if there's nothing to be concerned about them seeing in the car? Why not just get out and talk to them as requested?

"Sufficient grounds" are required for them to search the vehicle, but I don't believe they're required for them to ask him to get out.

Look at it from their side: buddy is refusing to roll his window down, refusing to get out, being highly argumentative (in a passive sort of way)... essentially BEHAVING like he's trying to hide something. They don't know if he might be hiding a gun down the right side of his seat, or in some other way putting THEIR lives at risk. The more he protests getting out of the car, the more suspicious it seems.
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I fucking hate people like this, if you're going out of your way to make someones job harder because you have a carrot up your ass you're an idiot, plain and simple. And if they're gonna insist on making the polices job harder, they better be 110% sure they are doing everything flawlessly (like CiC wasn't a few weeks back) or they're gonna have a real bad time since they don't have to do you any favours either.
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The following is to my understanding of offences involving motor vehicles:

If an officer has reasonable grounds to "suspect" impaired driving, the officer is authorized to immediately demand a physical coordination test. This is stage 1 of the screening test, based on suspicion.
In this case, we have a pretentious ignoramus refusing to comply.

During stage 1, the officer is NOT required by law to permit the suspect to consult with a lawyer when demanded of a roadside sobriety test or asked about alcohol consumption.

A suspect only has the right to counsel if a breathalyzer sample or drug test by a Drug Recognition Expert (DRE) is demanded. This is stage 2. Stage 2 comes into effect when the officer has reasonable grounds to "believe" that the suspect has committed an impaired driving offence. Belief comes into play when the suspect fails the Standardized Field Sobriety Test, or blows "red" on a handheld roadside device.





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What if a Chinese cop did the same thing to medical marijuana legend Wayne Gretzky? Can you imagine how that would shake up the country's conscious?
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What if a Chinese cop did the same thing to medical marijuana legend Wayne Gretzky? Can you imagine how that would shake up the country's conscious?
What if they didn't do there due diligence, he was impaired drove down the street and ran over a toddler and a mother crossing the road? Can you imagine the fire the cop would be under for not doing his job? You can what if any scenario to death, he allegedly had drugs on him he'll get his day in court nobody hurt but his ego and his window.
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You guys all missed a critical point right at the beginning of the video.

The reason the cop calls this kid a moron, and tells him to hit the brakes, and put it in park, is because the car started to roll forward when the cop walked up to the window.

That all on it's own is a stupid enough thing to do to make a cop think about impaired driving, what kind of stupid retard doesn't put the car in park, and shut it off when they get pulled over.

Only a guilty person pulls half the shit this kid did, like starting to film the officer, not rolling down your window fully, arguing, the kid knew he was fucked, and decided to make a scene to hopefully get off on some technicality, or to make a scene out of it.

I for one hope the judge sees right through this shit and shoves the gavel so far up his ass that he won't even feel the rape while he enjoys his short stint in prison. Sorry not sorry.
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Wouldn't have to listen to all the banter in the vid if VPD just had this guy on the force:

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What if they didn't do there due diligence, he was impaired drove down the street and ran over a toddler and a mother crossing the road? Can you imagine the fire the cop would be under for not doing his job? You can what if any scenario to death, he allegedly had drugs on him he'll get his day in court nobody hurt but his ego and his window.
Yes any scenario can be made up, but putting Wayne Gretzky behind those polite "sirs" with the thought that all humans in this country are equals, is not a scenario that makes the officers action excusable.

I also doubt some newer generation settler immigrant cops would recognize the aging, slut looking of a daughter, stressed Gretzky.
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doesn't matter if the guy in the car is a douchbag or not.... his window doesn't deserve to get smashed.
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Yes any scenario can be made up, but putting Wayne Gretzky behind those polite "sirs" with the thought that all humans in this country are equals, is not a scenario that makes the officers action excusable.

I also doubt some newer generation settler immigrant cops would recognize the aging, slut looking of a daughter, stressed Gretzky.
Wayne Gretzky would also be smart enough to comply.
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Yes any scenario can be made up, but putting Wayne Gretzky behind those polite "sirs" with the thought that all humans in this country are equals, is not a scenario that makes the officers action excusable.

I also doubt some newer generation settler immigrant cops would recognize the aging, slut looking of a daughter, stressed Gretzky.
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Why are you bringing the Great One and his family into this? Isn't Jackie Chans son in jail for weed?


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lool this guy was purposely not cooperating. If he cooperated, he would have probably got off easy.

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What a complete idiot. So now he is claiming this bs excuse, but when the officers pulled him over and told him they smelled marijuana, he flat out lied and told them they didn't. If he really believed this nonsense he would have explained that to the officer when confronted instead of coming up with this bs after.


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doesn't matter if the guy in the car is a douchbag or not.... his window doesn't deserve to get smashed.
I think it did, officers were attempted to place the subject under arrest, be it for suspicion of impaired driving, possession of a control substance or even just being detained while they investigate, the subject refused to multiple times to exit the vehicle while the officer was attempting to place him under arrest, so the officer had to go get him by smashing the window. If this clown didn't want his window smashed, then exit the vehicle when an officer is attempting to place you under arrest.
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