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Old 05-14-2015, 02:10 PM   #1
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Superhero movies and television are getting dumber



I made it to 2:22 before losing my shit and having to shut it off for being too hokey
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I love Arrow and the Flash so I think this looks great. Not only that its filmed locally so the more they film here the better for our film industry.
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Did you guys see Supergirl???


It looks so over-the-top silly. Some military guy tells an invulnerable, walking god that she can't help them and she's better off bringing someone coffee. It breaks the suspension of disbelief so much I can't even watch it.
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wow....i thought the arrow was ok....flash was sorta pushing it but this does seem a little much

but Sarah (arrow, blond chick) is back so that's good lol she's hot
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Correlation and causation. Our system is increasingly making people retarded (on multiple levels) by the years... they call this Autism which has an ever rising rate and is something 1 in 65 in the US.

Make people dumb, brainwash them to join death sqaud teams to "save" the world.
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every genre has good stuff and shit, the superhero genre isn't immune to it.
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Nolan's Batman was the last great superhero flick


Shows like Black Mirror are so much smarter than this hero shit, but smart isn't nearly as popular as flashy!


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Correlation and causation. Our system is increasingly making people retarded (on multiple levels) by the years... they call this Autism which has an ever rising rate and is something 1 in 65 in the US.

Make people dumb, brainwash them to join death sqaud teams to "save" the world.
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Nolan's Batman was the last great superhero flick


Shows like Black Mirror are so much smarter than this hero shit, but smart isn't nearly as popular as flashy!


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daredevil is amazing.

Agents of shield was amazing.

Winter Soldier was amazing.

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Nolan's Batman was the last great superhero flick
Agreed!! Loved the trilogy. I dig all the Marvel stuff but I feel like the market is getting over saturated lately. Agent of SHIELD is fucking garbage. Sorry fanboi's. LOL!
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daredevil is amazing.

Agents of shield was amazing.

Winter Soldier was amazing.

U talk out of ur ass.

Shows with superheros require you to suspend disbelief and disconnect your brain


Shows like Black Mirror tell stories of possible futures and they connect your brain to new ideas


Superhero shit is for fucking dumbasses who want good looking people in tights to entertain them with one-liners, violence, and crazy CGI. They are movies/shows for 16 year old boys!
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neat, its filmed at a BC Hydro dam (the scene with the turbines)

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Early 90's Teenage mutant ninja turtles had more of a story line in a 30 minute episode than most 2 hour + movies do these days.
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I forget how it happened but I ended up watching one of the Wolverine movies with this girl a few weeks ago


There were so many plot holes and totally whack scenes in the movie I can't even begin to count them!!!


I had to put on Silence of the Lambs and show her what real films for adults are about!
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Shows with superheros require you to suspend disbelief and disconnect your brain


Shows like Black Mirror tell stories of possible futures and they connect your brain to new ideas


Superhero shit is for fucking dumbasses who want good looking people in tights to entertain them with one-liners, violence, and crazy CGI. They are movies/shows for 16 year old boys!
I used to be a 16 year old boy too. Don't get me wrong, have given 3 stars to superhero movies many times over.

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Like the rest of us, scientists have long wondered what exactly goes on - or, more precisely, goes wrong - in the minds of murderers. And, like most of us, many scientists assumed that the real roots of violence lie in bad environments and abusive parents, a view that is still scientifically supported, as well as politically correct.

But a growing body of evidence, in particular, from studies that use modern scanning technologies to look inside the brains of killers, now strongly suggests that damage, or at least poor functioning, of a particular part of the brain - the prefrontal cortex, which lies just behind the forehead and eyes - is often involved in violence.

Though a number of research teams are exploring this, perhaps the most compelling visual evidence for the link between brain damage and violence is the work of Adrian Raine, a clinical neuroscientist at the University of Southern California in Los Angeles.

Among other things, Raine has performed PET scans on 41 murderers and 41 normal people of similar age. In each group, 39 of the 41 people were male. (PET scans, which measure glucose uptake by brain cells, show which brain regions are most active.) The murderers, Raine said, had lower glucose metabolism in the prefrontal cortex, a sign that this region was not functioning as it should to inhibit aggressive impulses.

The results support previous work by researchers at the University of Iowa showing that healthy people who suffer damage to the prefrontal cortex can become impulsive and antisocial.

It is also consistent with years of research by Dr. Dorothy Otnow Lewis, a professor of psychiatry at New York University School of Medicine and clinical professor of psychiatry at Yale University's Child Study Center, and Dr. Jonathan Pincus, chief of neurology at the Veterans Affairs Medical Center. Based on standard neuropsychological tests, Otnow Lewis and Pincus have also shown that prefrontal damage is linked to violent behavior.

But murders are clearly not all the same. Significantly, when Raine divided his murderers into those who committed cold-blooded, premeditated killing and those who killed impulsively, it was the impulsive killers who showed the poorest functioning in the prefrontal cortex.

In addition, in murderers' brains, the corpus callosum - a band of tissue that links the right and left hemispheres - also functioned poorly. This makes sense, Raine said, because it may mean that the left hemisphere cannot ''talk'' to the more emotional right side, thus allowing aggressive impulses to go uncontrolled.

Furthermore, the deep brain regions where scientists believe primitive emotions like fear and aggression originate, were more active in the brains of murderers than controls. For instance, Raine has used a different type of brain scan called magnetic resonance imaging, or MRI (which looks at the structure, as opposed to the functioning, of different brain regions), to look at people with antisocial personality disorders.

He found that brain cells within the prefrontal cortex regions of these people with antisocial personality disorder - who show a psychopathic lack of remorse and a penchant for breaking rules and violent crime - were on average 11 percent smaller than normal, yet another clue that damage or dysfunction in this area may predispose people to hostility and aggression.

The basic model for how violence arises in the brain is that the initial impulses originate in deep regions of the limbic system, or emotional brain. After that, it's the job of the prefrontal cortex to decide whether to act on these impulses or not.

Specifically, many violent impulses seem to arise in the amygdala, hypothalamus and periaquaductal gray area of the brain, said Allan Siegel, a neuroscientist who studies cats at the New Jersey Medical School in Newark. In fact, he said, different parts of the hypothalamus, at least in cats, are involved in different types of violence - the cold, premeditated type (such as stalking prey) and impulsive acts of rage.

While damage to the prefrontal cortex may help explain impulsive violence - sudden rage attacks - it truly can't explain violence that is premeditated, like the Sept. 11 bombings, noted Dr. Ronald Schouten, a lawyer and psychiatrist who heads the law and psychiatry service at Massachusetts General Hospital.

In other words, the job of prefrontal lobes is ''executive function,'' that is, planning, integrating information and generally serving as a mechanism to control emotional impulses that originate in deeper brain regions. So, if a burglar who meticulously planned and executed a bank robbery tried to argue that he was not responsible because of damage to his prefrontal cortex, he probably would - and certainly should - be laughed out of court because it would be quite clear that his prefrontal cortex was working just fine.

It's also true that, no matter how compelling brain scan data is, the fact of brain injury or dysfunction by itself cannot explain violence, said Otnow Lewis of NYU and Yale.

Otnow Lewis, who has studied hundreds of murderers, stresses that most brain-damaged people are not violent, and that most people with serious mental illness are not violent, either. What does create a ''cocktail of violence,'' she said, is when a child with brain damage is raised in an abusive environment and is also prone to psychosis, or loss of contact with reality.

It's also worth noting that none of the emerging brain scan evidence on violence explains the most obvious feature of violence: That, with some stunning exceptions, it's mostly male, across cultures. Citing FBI data from 1998, Lewis noted that, in the United States, men are eight times more likely than women to commit murder, nine times more likely to commit armed robbery and four to five times more likely to commit aggravated assault.

One theory for this striking gender difference involves the hormone testosterone, which is more abundant in men than in women. But precisely how testosterone may trigger the violence circuits in the brain is a mystery. In animals, considerable data show that aggression is linked to high testosterone and that castration (removal of the testicles, which produce the male hormone) decreases aggression.

But things are not so clear with men, Lewis noted, although research does show that male sex offenders who are castrated are less likely to repeat their crimes and that men who take body-building steroids, which are chemically close to testosterone, can become aggressive. Studies of prisoners - both male and female - also suggest that aggression is linked to high testosterone levels.

Violent people also may exhibit lower physiological arousal in general, including more sluggish sweating and skin responses to stimuli, which raises the intriguing possibility that violence may serve, biologically, as a kind of rush that jolts the brain toward more normal functioning.

But it's the prefrontal cortex that is attracting the most scientific attention these days among researchers probing the biological roots of violence.

At the National Institute of Neurological Disorders and Stroke, Dr. Jordan Grafman, chief of the cognitive neuroscience section, has studied wounded Vietnam veterans and found that those with penetrating head injuries that caused damage to parts of the prefrontal cortex, as shown on CT scans, were at increased risk for violent behavior.

In a still-unpublished study, Marina Nakic, a postdoctoral fellow in Grafman's lab, has shown that merely viewing violent images is enough to activate the prefrontal cortex. She showed eight men and women with no history of violence images of violent, pleasant or neutral interpersonal interactions. As each volunteer viewed the images, he or she lay in a functional MRI machine to record brain activity.

Both positive and violent images triggered increases in brain activity, she said, although in different subregions of the prefrontal cortex. Violent images activate a region called Brodmann area 10, she said, while pleasant images activate Brodmann area 32.

While Nakic's work doesn't suggest that just looking at violent images leads to violent behavior, it does show that the brain responds in clear-cut ways to perceived violence. In another study from the cognitive neuroscience section, researchers have shown that normal people who merely imagine committing an aggressive act show diminished activity in the prefrontal cortex, suggesting that just thinking about violence may involve some loss of control over violent impulses.

Some studies have also pointed to the role of serotonin, a key brain chemical.

At Harvard Medical School, Dr. Ed Kravitz, a neurobiologist, has found that chronic administration of Prozac, which increases serotonin in the brain, increases the willingness of lobsters that have just lost a fight to fight again. But whether this is because the losing lobsters are less depressed and therefore more feisty or are truly more aggressive is not clear. In fact, it appears that either too much or too little serotonin may increase aggression, he noted.

In humans, Kravitz said, there is some data suggesting that Prozac increases aggression, but this hasn't held up in statistical tests.

The bottom line? Violence, even in critters as seemingly simple as lobsters, is a complex behavior. But the more researchers learn about the neurobiology of this impulse to harm others, the more human beings, with their huge brains, may find ways to control it.
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Daredevil was great but I found the "hero porn" in the finale to be a bit

I really hope it was just a one time thing, and they move away from it in season 2
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Even Daredevil is a little hokey, I mean, seriously... the suspension of disbelief I have to maintain is even higher than professional wrestling, MUCH higher.
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Even Star Wars handled "The Force" in a way that seemed plausible! Partially why Star Wars is so epic.
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Shows with superheros require you to suspend disbelief and disconnect your brain


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Superhero shit is for fucking dumbasses who want good looking people in tights to entertain them with one-liners, violence, and crazy CGI. They are movies/shows for 16 year old boys!
you can honestly apply that logic to any genre
aren't you a writer? then you'll understand that how complex or challenging something is based on how well written it is, not the genre

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