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Old 05-19-2015, 01:57 AM   #26
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Beatings, no, disciplining, yes.
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My parents are from India. Never got hit with a feather duster or anything. Their hands were more convenient and always ready to go. Lol



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There's a difference between beating your kid and hitting them for discipline. There's a difference between a spanking and getting whipped with a belt or something. What Adrian Peterson did, for example, was beating. What my parents did hurt for like...10 minutes and then just went away.

Kids need to know there are consequences to their actions and when you're 3, what sort of repercussions do they understand other than taking their toys away and pain?

When there's some snot nosed brat in the supermarket screaming at his mom to buy him candy or whatever, you know that kid has never been spanked.
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i used to get beats so bad my mom would come in after and put vaseline on my butt ...boy did i ever learn my lesson(s) good, specifically:

Never lie to dad.
Don;t talk back to dad.

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when he tells you to stop crying. do your damn best to stop crying.
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problem is, kids now arnt afraid of their parents. i wasnt afraid of my mom because she wasnt threatening at all.. but when my dad got home i ran. literally

fck that belt hurt, and because i knew it hurt i didnt pull stupid shit around him. it worked great, as i got older the way of discipline changed because i understood the new discipline.. but when kids are 8< they dont think ahead and the threat of grounding or taking away an ipad dosnt sink in like a good smack with a spoon

i often watch kids go insane around their parents and they just shrug it off. my dad didnt give a shit if we were in safeway and he has to give me a good slap.. so i especially didnt pull that shit in public places because i wasnt safe anywhere..

now there is a difference between beating ur child till blood, bruises or you needa check for a pulse. but im all for giving a smack witha wooden spoon.. that shit sucked!

fck, more and more generations will go by where kids get more rights and parents get less for fear of how they will be viewed
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Parenting is a success when kids are more afraid of disappointing their parents than going to jail, getting beat up, or any other punishment.
Yup, the thing that changed me was seeing my mom sobbing at the side of her bed. My sister told me later that day that she was sobbing because I was an asshole. That hit me harder than any physical beating. My father was a commercial fisherman and was away for months at a time. My mom is like just shy of 4 feet 10 inches. She couldn't hurt me with her hands. She used whatever was around.............. anyway, parenting is tough. In the end, caring is what matters.
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Best advice is to (physically) discipline your kids, but never when you're angry.
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I disagree with the angry part. You want your kids to never get you angry.... And you (especially myself ) don't want to feel happy or neutral about it(giving spanking or discipline) Disappointed, sad and of course angry.
Discipline is also only acceptable when it's done to teach and not for abuse or bullying.... And yes it is a fine line.
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Oh man, I am glad my parents disciplined me when I was out of place and needed it. I wouldn't be where I am today without it. Could be at home or out in public at the mall. I remember one time I was being a brat at the mall and insisting to go on one of those rides you put a few coins in and get a ride in for a couple minutes. My mother was in a rush and I threw a tantrum...man I got my ass beat right there in front of everyone. Half the anguish is the physical pain but the shit that really gets to you, even at that age, is the embarrassment in front of people that know damn well you deserve it.

My mother had a saying, "I brought you into this world, I can take you out of it!" You don't fuck around with a mom like that man...you learn fast.

In the Caribbean you call a good ass whoppin' a "cut ass". I remember there were years growing up where the discipline kind of subsided and my sister and I started pushing my mom's limits. Eventually it got to a tipping point where we got called into the bedroom for a yearly cut ass. The cut ass of all cut asses that would make up for all the shit she'd been letting slide (with due warning that it was coming if we kept up our shit).

Being the older one I knew what my mother was capable of with a belt and my misbehavior wasn't as bad as my sisters so I'd say on a scale of 1 to 10 my cut ass was a 7. But man oh man...my sister's was like something out of a movie. She stepped in the room and my mom closed the door and locked it. Then all you heard were sound FX. Sounded like something out of an old cartoon or batman. *WHAP!* *PLOW!* *BLAP!* and my sister howling

When she came out her arms and legs were red except for one spot she tried to block and you could see the hand print like a tan line

It's a different mentality in the Caribbean. If you get in trouble in school you get strokes or bull whip from the teacher or dean...shit if you fail a test (under 70%) you get detention. You learn discipline from young and carry it with you through the rest of you life in all respects. I don't agree with all of it but there's a time and place for everything.

Funny thing is I was talking to my girlfriend about this the other day, but she said you can't hit your kids in Canada. The impression she gave me is that hitting them whether it's your hand or belt is abuse. Any truth to that? There's no such thing as child protection services back in the Caribbean....you fuck up and you're ass is grass...no phone call will save you.
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discipline and beatings are very different. that being said I think its just fine to beat some adults. its bleeding heart turn the other cheek bullshit people that say otherwise. I catch you stealing my car I dont call the cops....
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The impression she gave me is that hitting them whether it's your hand or belt is abuse. Any truth to that? There's no such thing as child protection services back in the Caribbean....you fuck up and you're ass is grass...no phone call will save you.

a kid can call child protection services.. then is taken away from the home and put in foster care.. in most cases that isnt a solution. but in extreme cases its better than abuse

but like posted above, there is a line between discipline and abuse and obviously the older someone gets the more the discipline changes
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Disciplining is good. Though I think mine was borderline abuse. Had to kneel on beer bottle caps, in an unspecified amount of time. OR crawl around the living on my knees for 10 laps.

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My mom and dad would literally turn the closes object into a weapon. I remember times where slippers and hangers and that fucking piece of shit spoon that never broke
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Disciplining is good. Though I think mine was borderline abuse. Had to kneel on beer bottle caps, in an unspecified amount of time. OR crawl around the living on my knees for 10 laps.
That's like military training lol.

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i used to get beats so bad my mom would come in after and put vaseline on my butt ...boy did i ever learn my lesson(s) good, specifically:

Never lie to dad.
Don;t talk back to dad.

and the most important:

when he tells you to stop crying. do your damn best to stop crying.
For the last one, it would be child abuse if he was beating youf or crying. I mean, really, isn't that like a paradox. You beat a kid, he cries, you beat him more because he's crying, he won't stop, so you beat him more?
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corporal punishment is the most efficient form of discipline.

and it is the most efficient form of neurological conditioning.

that, and you don't grow up to be a fucking pussy.


either your parents beat you, or when you grow up, the world will beat you.

as long as it's discipline, and not bullying.

the physical part can be the same between the two, but when its abuse/bullying... you're doing it to satisfy a vicious craving to see them in pain and fear for no real reason.


i disagree that there shouldn't be any anger... there should be some. because if there is no anger, they don't take it seriously. the pain can be withstood. people become tough and can be conditioned to the pain. but throw in a tad of anger, and the authenticity and fear invoked will make them take it very seriously.
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Although many idiotic people nowadays are trying to push "no physical discipline" and complaining about this law;

It's under Criminal Code of Canada, Section 43. It is NOT a crime for parents or teachers to use physical force to discipline kids when it's appropriate, provided that there's no cruelty involved.

The "Spanking" Law: Section 43 of the Criminal Code (PRB 05-10E)
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I was given 1-3 spanks with the hand or a belt as a kid. taught me a good lesson.

I will do the same to my kid. I remember my mom telling my dad what i did cause i could hear it through the wall. then i heard the 'clink' of his belt undoing as he walked down the hallway...that sound sent the fear of god through me. The belt spankings sucked! and if i tried to put my hands over my butt cheeks to block the belt i would get 2 more for every one i blocked. I learned to just take the spanking and smarten up....not surprisingly i got less and less, because i learned to smarten up and not make as many stupid decisions.

Some of my friends said they will just take their kids ipad away. first of all, my kid is not going to have an ipad until they can afford one, let alone a cellphone till they can buy a pay-as-you go for themselves. they are gonna be out playing sports or out with other kids
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My dad had these back in the day and smacked me upside the head with it.

Thank god it wasn't this or I'd be deader than dead:

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sorry but the moto brick counts as a weapon

u know whats worst then see parents baby there kids, its when u have to step in & SHOW THEM HOW TO TECH THEIR KIDS RIGHT

i had to slap my dads friends kid just for fucking around with my laptop when he was in my office & i was working, i was typing a letter to another company

his parent told him to stop but he didnt listen, so grabbed his hand push him off & then slap his hand

later her mom apologize for everything, i told her u need to set this straight as face & respect needs to earned period
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his parent told him to stop but he didnt listen, so grabbed his hand push him off & then slap his hand

later her mom apologize for everything, i told her u need to set this straight as face & respect needs to earned period
Good thing she apologized - some parents nowadays think that their kids can do no harm...
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Good thing she apologized - some parents nowadays think that their kids can do no harm...
Can't stand that shit.

Case in point, my parents had family friends over... they have two kids around 6-7, maybe, years old. I was working on my car in the garage, kids decide to play hide-and-seek in the backyard. One of them gets into the garage, I tell him politely that it's not safe to be horsing around in the garage, he leaves.

Comes back literally 30 seconds later, RUNNING like a fucking idiot.

I drag him out and tell his mom to watch her kid, make sure he doesn't go into the garage because it's unsafe not to mention incredibly annoying when I need to get shit done (didn't mention the last bit). She responds with "he's just a kid, let him be he just wants to play"... okay, screw you then.

Kid comes back again, trips on an electrical cord and scratches up his knee pretty bad. And I'm the one who gets blamed for it by the family friends.... are you fucking kidding me
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