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Old 06-01-2015, 07:53 PM   #26
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the driver was already suspended for DUI and wasnt suppose to be driving, couple native guys from pemberton kill "staples of the community" from whistler, nice


Why is it never "Doctor accidentally runs over two career criminals and paralyzes rapist"?


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It seems the tables have turned and this has become 'blame the riders'. How many times when you were driving, you were more scared of the cyclist on the side of the road then they were? So normally, a sober driver would have taken precautions to make sure there was enough room for both to occupy the road. Obviously, the reason this tragedy happened was because this driver was not sober and did not properly handle the vehicle.
Maybe I am in the minority here, but oftentimes I am more worried about the behavior of cyclists than cars. Simply because maybe, MAYBE 5% of cars drive "unpredictably" whereas the percentage of cyclists who ride unpredictably (i.e., running red lights, stop signs, swerving around pedestrians crossing the street, riding on the sidewalk or on crosswalks) is much higher... sure, the likelihood of them damaging my car is a lot lower, but when you consider that cyclists do not have insurance or a license, and are 100% able to run away without providing identification for insurance purposes, it's a pretty shitty proposition to be in a collision with a cyclist.
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the percentage of cyclists who ride unpredictably (i.e., running red lights, stop signs, swerving around pedestrians crossing the street, riding on the sidewalk or on crosswalks) is much higher...

If you removed crackheads from the equation, at least downtown, you'd remove 90% of the problem.

5% are hot, distracted chick riders
5% are stoned hipsters
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If you removed crackheads from the equation, at least downtown, you'd remove 90% of the problem.

5% are hot, distracted chick riders
5% are stoned hipsters
+/-1% degree of variance to account for the 1% hot, distracted, stoned chick hipsters?
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+/-1% degree of variance to account for the 1% hot, distracted, stoned chick hipsters?
We leave those for bcrdukes.
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I thought helmets were mandatory for cyclists in BC in the late 90's? What happened to that law?
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update

update on driver...seems the impaired driver (sam alec or alek)
was suspended from driving for a 130 day DUI already
...how do you say ''Fucked!''?

http://www.lillooetnews.net/news/loc...lity-1.1954667

Details emerge about deadly cyclist accident | Watch News Videos Online

http://bc.ctvnews.ca/cyclists-killed...ends-1.2400799

"Some media outlets are reporting that the driver, Sam (aka Farmer) Alec had been
sentenced to 144 days in jail and was still prohibited from driving at the time of the crash."

both the driver and passenger are members of some lillooet first nations band

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But his homeless friends who were interviewed out front of convenient stores said he was a good person, so that's all that really matters
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inb4 he gets some sort of shit conditional sentence
and appeals it
and probably win
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I thought helmets were mandatory for cyclists in BC in the late 90's? What happened to that law?
Nothing happened to that law, still in existence, just like seatbelts are mandatory, not drinking & driving, not txting & driving are mandatory as well.
I don't think the helmets would have saved these cyclists from a head on impact. Also, they were descending a downhill at a high rate of speed. And fyi, most, if not all, serious road cyclists are wearing helmets, especially these two since they belong to a club.
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i saw that too: but they're talking about the passenger who also died (st pierre?), i believe. if
referring to the news clip i provided: nothing mentioned of the driver, community wise, other than both same native band
...at least i didn't hear anything.

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It seems the tables have turned and this has become 'blame the riders'. How many times when you were driving, you were more scared of the cyclist on the side of the road then they were? So normally, a sober driver would have taken precautions to make sure there was enough room for both to occupy the road. Obviously, the reason this tragedy happened was because this driver was not sober and did not properly handle the vehicle.
Not so much scared of the cyclist, but scared for them. A lot of cyclists put themselves in very dangerous places with seemingly no concern. They can also be a danger without actually hitting anything simply by causing others to perform evasive maneuvers to avoid them.

Now in this case it sounds more likely to have been a wrong place at the wrong time sort of scenario, given that the passenger in the vehicle was killed, but it's hard to say without more information.
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rules don't apply to those special chosen ones.

Not being racist but is he aboriginal? If so 604_boi might actually be right
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I dont know how ppl ride bicycles on the roads. Are you not scared some noob driver gona hit you with side mirror? If i have to ride bicycle, sidewalk is where ill stay unless cycle lane is there

How many drivers get stressed whenever they have to pass cyclists?
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I dont know how ppl ride bicycles on the roads. Are you not scared some noob driver gona hit you with side mirror? If i have to ride bicycle, sidewalk is where ill stay unless cycle lane is there

How many drivers get stressed whenever they have to pass cyclists?
Thank you.

I know I don't ride anywhere near the amount of time regular bikers do, but if I do have to get on one, I use the sidewalk.

Fuck those who give me sour looks like I'm in their way. Rather be that than dead.

The bicycle community in Vancouver (I say Vancouver because this is where I live) is a little too entitled. And I understand their position; we have bike lanes throughout the city made specially for them. But at its very basic point, a car, even the smallest one (forTwo's) that is ALL metal/steel/HARDERFUCKINGMATERIALSTHANHUMAN. You're sitting on a bike without ANYTHING protecting you. You can take all the precautions in the world but when idiots, 2000lb rolling metal box and alcohol are involved, all bets are off. IE: this terribly sad situation.

Just be more aware out there bikers.

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It's illegal to bicycle on the sidewalk. You have to take your chances with the road ragers. VPD nabs 733 sidewalk cyclists

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It's illegal to bicycle on the sidewalk. You have to take your chances with the road ragers. VPD nabs 733 sidewalk cyclists

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I dont see why it needs to ILLEGAL.
outside of DT core and maybe Broadway, how often do you see ppl walking on the sidewalks? most sidewalks are deserted.


http://former.vancouver.ca/bylaws/2849c.PDF#page=35
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Driver in crash that killed Whistler cyclists had suspended licence for drunk driving - British Columbia - CBC News
History of impaired driving

The driver has a history of previous convictions for impaired driving and driving when his licence was suspended.

February 2007: Arrested for impaired driving in Fort St. John and convicted later that year. Sentenced in 2008 to a one-year driving prohibition.
December 2008: Arrested for driving with a suspended licence in Lillooet. Sentenced in 2010 to 30 days in jail and a three-year driving prohibition.
October 2009: Arrested for impaired driving in Lillooet. Sentenced in 2010 to 60 days in jail and a three-year driving prohibition.
April 2011: Arrested for operating a motor vehicle while disqualified in Lillooet. Sentenced later that year to 45 days in jail and a three-year driving prohibition.
March 2014: Arrested for driving with a blood alcohol level over .08, and operating a motor vehicle while disqualified. Sentenced in October 2014 to 144 days in jail and a three-year driving prohibition on the first count, and 120 days in jail on the second count.

wow, this sam alec driver dude is now in the shitter for sure...and only brings more light to our lame ass laws for repeat dui offenders.

if he is truly an alcoholic, then what can the system do to see people like this get help to ensure they're on the way to recovery...so that there is no repeat offence scenario ad nauseum leading to his sort of unnecessary carnage.

on the other hand, I guess you can't really 'recover' unless you truly want to...am pretty sure now he'll ''want to'', but little too late with the heart breaking devastation and damage already done.
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History of impaired driving

The driver has a history of previous convictions for impaired driving and driving when his licence was suspended.

February 2007: Arrested for impaired driving in Fort St. John and convicted later that year. Sentenced in 2008 to a one-year driving prohibition.
December 2008: Arrested for driving with a suspended licence in Lillooet. Sentenced in 2010 to 30 days in jail and a three-year driving prohibition.
October 2009: Arrested for impaired driving in Lillooet. Sentenced in 2010 to 60 days in jail and a three-year driving prohibition.
April 2011: Arrested for operating a motor vehicle while disqualified in Lillooet. Sentenced later that year to 45 days in jail and a three-year driving prohibition.
March 2014: Arrested for driving with a blood alcohol level over .08, and operating a motor vehicle while disqualified. Sentenced in October 2014 to 144 days in jail and a three-year driving prohibition on the first count, and 120 days in jail on the second count.

wow, this sam alec driver dude is now in the shitter for sure...and only brings more light to our lame ass laws for repeat dui offenders.

if he is truly an alcoholic, then what can the system do to see people like this get help to ensure they're on the way to recovery...so that there is no repeat offence scenario ad nauseum leading to his sort of unnecessary carnage.

on the other hand, I guess you can't really 'recover' unless you truly want to...am pretty sure now he'll ''want to'', but little too late with the heart breaking devastation and damage already done.
if the above is true, it speaks to an absolute failure in the government to keep its citizens safe.

I would be looking to sue the government, not for fiscal retribution, but for a change in attitudes towards repeat offenders.
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The guy sounds like fucking scum. I highly doubt anything other than extended jail time was going to keep him off the road.
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shitty laws.
repeat offenders like that need to be taken out back and shot in the dick.
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with an American Civil War era cannon.
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I dont see why it needs to ILLEGAL.
outside of DT core and maybe Broadway, how often do you see ppl working on the sidewalks? most sidewalks are deserted.


http://former.vancouver.ca/bylaws/2849c.PDF#page=35
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Because if it isn't some spandex superstar is going to be going way too fast and not pay attention, and end up mowing down some old lady or child.

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if the above is true, it speaks to an absolute failure in the government to keep its citizens safe.

I would be looking to sue the government, not for fiscal retribution, but for a change in attitudes towards repeat offenders.
Hindsight is 20/20. It sounds like if this idiot was anywhere but in jail he'd still be driving. The problem is, can you justify a life sentence to someone for driving without a license? And if so, how many strikes before that happens? It's not as easy as you seem to think it is.
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When do they ban him from driving for life?
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