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Old 02-22-2016, 05:58 PM   #6176
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Old 02-22-2016, 05:59 PM   #6177
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i really feel that JB doesnt have any expecations in some of these deals then pulls the trigger when he thinks he's getting a deal

JB to calgary: "I've got shinkurek available, what are you guys willing to give?

Calgary: hmm.. i dont know, we can start with Granlund

JB: Done!

Calgary: oh, ok, thanks Jim

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The problem I see is that the reason they traded Shinkauruk is because there is no spot for him. Baerstchi, Rodin, Gaunce is in the way. But what I don't get is that why didn't he trade for a position where we are weak in such as defence.

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i really feel that JB doesnt have any expecations in some of these deals then pulls the trigger when he thinks he's getting a deal

JB to calgary: "I've got shinkurek available, what are you guys willing to give?

Calgary: hmm.. i dont know, we can start with Granlund

JB: Done!

Calgary: oh, ok, thanks Jim
That's pretty much what he confirmed to the media earlier today. He was asked why he didn't trade Shink for a D prospect since we're thin in that area and he said that there wasn't any available. He said Granlund was "the best player available"

That last part really bugs the shit out of me. It seems like he wasn't making a trade to stock up on a position of weakness, but instead, he just did the trade so he could get rid of Shink and ended up settling for Granlund.
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^Fuck that shit bugs me so much hearing that. Why even trade if the return isn't "fair". Just keep what ya got.
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Does he have a clause in his contract that he has to make a certain number of trades per quarter or something??? Fuck that rationale is irritating!!!!
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TSN1040 mentioned that starting next season, Granlund needs to go through waivers to go down to Utica. That basically means him, Vey, Baertschi have NHL spots tied up for next season or risk losing them for nothing to send them down to the minors.
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Old 02-22-2016, 06:25 PM   #6182
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Granlund is also an RFA at the end of this season
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Lets just hope Granlund is going to be part of a bigger deal...
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Old 02-22-2016, 07:53 PM   #6185
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Current bottom 10 in the league:
21st - Ottawa Senators - 62 pts - top 3 odds - 11.5% / 1st overall - 3.5%
22nd - Montreal Canadiens - 61 pts - top 3 odds - 16.1% / 1st overall - 5%
23rd - Arizona Coyotes - 60 pts - top 3 odds - 19.1% / 1st overall- 6%
24th - Vancouver Canucks - 58 pts - top 3 odds - 20.6% / 1st overall - 6.5%
25th - Calgary Flames - 55 pts - top 3 odds - 23.5% / 1st overall - 7.5%
26th - Buffalo Sabres - 55 pts - top 3 odds - 29% / 1st overall - 9%
27th - Columbus Blue Jackets - 55 pts - top 3 odds - 26.3% / 1st overall - 8.5%
28th - Winnipeg Jets - 54 pts - top 3 odds - 34.2% / 1st overall - 11.5%
29th - Toronto Maple Leafs - 50 pts - top 3 odds - 39% / 1st overall - 13.5%
30th - Edmonton Oilers - 50 pts - top 3 odds - 52.5% / 1st overall - 20%

Montreal leapfrogs Arizona by a point and Columbus' win tonight puts them only 3 points behind the Canucks
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1. Garrison and a 7th for a 2nd
2. Trading that 2nd for Vey
3. Targetting Sbisa in the Kesler trade
4. letting Santorelli walk for nothing
5. Ryan Miller Contract
6. Hiring John Weisbrod
7. Hiring his own son, a security guard at Nordstroms, as a scout
8. Trading Gustav Forsling for Adam Clendening - discovering a few months later he doesn't have NHL skating
9. Derek Dorsett Contract
10. Luca Sbisa Contract
11. Eddie Lack trade
12. Zack Kassian trade
13. Firing competent personal with dissenting view points: Gilman, Henning, Crawford
14. Firing the long time and highly respected head athletic trainer Mike Burnstein
15. Giving Linden Vey a raise rather than just qualifying him because...?
16. Letting Richardson and Matthias walk for nothing
17. Prioritizing Matt Bartkowski as the only addition to our blueline in the summer
18. Giving Mackenzie Stewart a pro contract
19. Brandon Sutter trade
20. Brandon Sutter contract extension
21. Losing Frank Corrado on waivers when he could have been kept by putting Higgins on IR, overlooking his poor training camp was due to battling through injuries
22. Hunter Shinkaruk for Markus Granlund

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Don't think vey will be back either they trade him now or in the summer time! But I can't see them resigning him!
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Old 02-22-2016, 08:30 PM   #6188
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Bring out the paper bags...

Rookie Owners
Rookie President
Rookie GM
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Rookie NHL Coach

It hurts being a fan at the moment. Just think 5 seasons ago, we were up 3-2 in the Stanley Cup Finals.

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shinkaruk is overrated
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Don't think vey will be back either they trade him now or in the summer time! But I can't see them resigning him!
Vey was on waivers and nobody took him


man reading that list 1-22 really makes me sad.... I'd welcome Mike Gillis back with open arms right about now


also to be fair, Shink IS a little overrated... for all we know he could be the next Nick Jensen, and to look on the bright side Granlund has a higher PPG in the AHL than Shink anyway

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man reading that list 1-22 really makes me sad.... I'd welcome Mike Gillis back with open arms right about now
He's too busy being a prof at UVic
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Seasoned management personnel aren't going to want to work here with meddling owners, only rookies.

Star players aren't going to want to play here for a puppet management team.
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Gillis and AV were the best things to happen to this organization in a long time and a lot of people here wanted them gone.

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Whats going to happen to the Canucks fan base if Shinkaruk becomes as good as filip forsberg like the Erat trade
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They/we will be pretty fucking pissed off...not rocket science right there!
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Old 02-22-2016, 10:58 PM   #6198
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Pretty hopeful that a 'renowned talent assessor' in jb would be able to recognize a player with that potential. And also the fact that 28 other teams weren't willing to return more what the flames did.

Or maybe my hope is misguided
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I just don't get that after all these years, our scouting staff didn't go through a rebuild themselves.

Like c'mon! Who were the pro scouts that recommended Ballard, Booth, Rome, Glass, Ebbett, Sturm, etc...

To now recommending players like Vey, Prust, and Bartowski?
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Can any of you guys see the bigger picture?

You guys all had AV and GMMG's heads on sticks for years leading up to their firing's and were fucking excited like little girls when they were, and even more excited when GMJB was hired because he was a great scout and came from a great organization. 2 years in, and you hate him now too. AV clearly wasn't a bad coach, seeing as hes continued the same success in NY.

you all hated GMMG for not making deals happen, even tho it was clear that Aquaman was meddling at that time, and it was hinted at after. now you all hate GMJB for not making deals AND hate Aquaman and half of you swear that Aquaman is forcing the team to the playoffs for 2 games worth of revenue. has that actually been shown anywhere or is it just e-gossiping? Aquaman is a terrificly successful business man and holds onto properties for long term investments. do you think hes short sighted enough to think 2 playoff game's worth of revenue when fan support is falling is worth more than a quick rebuild and have a contender that fans love? I bet shitty team ticket/merch sales + 2 play off game revenue is alot less than fan supported team sales + 2 (or 0, or lots) play off game revenue.

you all couldn't wait to trade Lu for a bag of pucks, now miss him dearly.

in training camp you guys were loving Bart for coming in and playing his way onto the team. half a season in, and that experiment didn't work, and you're all hating on JB for signing him in the first place.



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