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Old 08-18-2015, 05:18 PM   #1576
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Not particularly excited. Realistically, we aren't winning a Cup with the lineup we've got. If there's no shot at a Cup, we're just playing for regular season bragging rights...and that just lowers your draft pick so...not a lot going for the Canucks this season.
IMO, anything can happen when you make it to the playoffs.

One hot goalie, one hot scoring streak, puck luck, injuries. I don't care how many president's trophies you've won, playoffs is a totally different game.
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I think we'll be competitive. We definitely downgraded skillwise on paper, but we definitely improved in the work ethic department. We have too many guys who leave it all on the ice every game to tank, for sure. I'll be happy if we make the playoffs, if not, oh well. Can't be worse than watching the latter half of the Torts season or the Keenan era and I managed to live through that (honourable mention to the garbage Nonis brought us; if it weren't for Lu, those teams would've been bottom 5 for sure).
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we'll be a playoff spot killer team and draft 10-14 overall

another wasted year
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My optimism and hope died ages ago. I think at this point I'm just glad hockey's back. I gave up being optimistic about the Canucks cus it's been one let down after another. Now instead of, "Oh i'm stoked and really optimistic about the coming season!" it's "Surprise me."

I wouldn't say i'm excited. I'm not optimistic either.
The only exciting part for me will be seeing how the new players fit into and the potential of prospects having good training camps and challenging for roster spot.

The very best thing that can happen this season is a prospect having a break out season. I have very low expectations in terms of winning or making the playoffs. If they somehow turn out a good season and develop some prospects, great! If not, oh well I saw that coming.
Last year, ditto. Horvat

Zero expectations again this year.
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I hope the Canucks tank so they can draft one of these franchise players in the 2016 draft:

Auston Matthews
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Old 08-19-2015, 08:23 AM   #1583
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IMO, anything can happen when you make it to the playoffs.

One hot goalie, one hot scoring streak, puck luck, injuries. I don't care how many president's trophies you've won, playoffs is a totally different game.
it's the Canucks lol...that anything can happen rule exempts the Canucks, Buffalo, St Louis, Toronto (i might be missing some but you get the gist)
You're better off having nil expectations...especially in the playoffs.
Hell, if this team makes the playoffs i'd be pretty happy already...means something must've gone right.


Puujarvi, Matthews or Tkachuk would be awesome if we blow this season
doubt that's gonna happen though.

I'll be keeping an eye out for Matthews and see how he does under Crow.
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I hope the Canucks tank so they can draft one of these franchise players in the 2016 draft:

Auston Matthews
Jakob Chychrun
Jesse Puljujarvi
Max Jones
Matthew Tkachuk
Logan Brown
#Tank4Matthews
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Anything can't happen by just making it.

A team like the flames, nucks, etc will never overcome two teams In a row like the ducks/Hawks etc
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McDavid and Eichel should make this season interesting. I am hoping that NYR can make another deep playoff run, Lundqvist needs to win a cup.
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No he doesnt. Canucks need to win a cup
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I hope the Canucks tank so they can draft one of these franchise players in the 2016 draft:

Auston Matthews
Jakob Chychrun
Jesse Puljujarvi
Max Jones
Matthew Tkachuk
Logan Brown
It's almost funny how visibly irritated linden sounded on the radio when it was suggested the best way to win is to tank for multiple years to acquire top end draft picks. I for one agree with linden
1) no draft pick is a slam dunk, not even mcjesus
2) Vancouver market will not accept a tank season or three. The bandwagon is already quite roomy despite the team exceeding expectations last year. Seasons ticket waitlist went from ~5 years to none in basically half a season
3) aquaman would never allow a tank season

TL seems content on plodding along as a middling team during these transitional years and instead rely on scouting and player development to back their future success. That's no slam dunk either, and some may even think that's a pretty grim option, but at least it's realistic, maybe
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No team purposely tanks and no owner would allow it. Sometimes the fanboys forget this is all a business. And no business sets a plan to purposely lose money.
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^ i dunno about that...it's definitely not a common thing but there are exceptions.
Buffalo last year would beg to differ, i'm preeeeetty sure they were tanking on purpose.
There were also few teams in the past that were probably playing tank wars for "generational" talents.
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No team purposely tanks and no owner would allow it. Sometimes the fanboys forget this is all a business. And no business sets a plan to purposely lose money.
Buffalo did for 2 seasons and the make up for that profit will generate for a decade of playoff hockey and probably a top 8-10 team

If Edmonton accepted bottom feeding team for 10 years why cant us? Because we live in Vancouver and everything needs to be high standards?
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We were a top 10 team last year (and every year since '08-'09 except the Torts season). Buffalo tanked to get to where we are now?
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So your telling me..let me get this straight. The owner who has invested millions into the team told the GM "hey lets tank so I can lose money for two years"...yeah fucking right
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Buffalo did for 2 seasons and the make up for that profit will generate for a decade of playoff hockey and probably a top 8-10 team

If Edmonton accepted bottom feeding team for 10 years why cant us? Because we live in Vancouver and everything needs to be high standards?
The reason why Edmonton can do it and we can't is because Edmonton has true fans and they will show up win or lose... Actually every teams in Canada has true fans that show up to the games unlike the Canucks and the corporate crowd they have...
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We were a top 10 team last year (and every year since '08-'09 except the Torts season). Buffalo tanked to get to where we are now?
The Business Of Hockey - Forbes

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The reason why Edmonton can do it and we can't is because Edmonton has true fans and they will show up win or lose... Actually every teams in Canada has true fans that show up to the games unlike the Canucks and the corporate crowd they have...
Average ticket price by Canadian teams:
1. Leafs - $446.25
2. Oilers - $328.33
3. Canucks - $296.56
4. Flames - $264.92
5. Jets - $252.67
6. Canadians - $219.43
7. Senators - $190.08

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IMHO, the average price can't be more than $200 if you want anything even resembling a non-corporate crowd at Rogers Arena - even that'll be a stretch.
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Expensive cost of living in Vancouver + high ticket costs = corporate crowd

There's just no way around it.
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Gotta lose to win

We've always been winning at a steady pace. So sneak into the playoff every year and call it success.

If that's the case we should just get players to win individual trophies. Sedin won back to back art Ross and still no respect for them....
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So your telling me..let me get this straight. The owner who has invested millions into the team told the GM "hey lets tank so I can lose money for two years"...yeah fucking right
Yes.

But you're leaving out the part where he can hopefully make boat loads of money for the following decade, win a cup, etc. This is the stuff dreams are built on. It's a risky game they (buffalo) played but now they are full of hope and optimism. Give it 3 years and let's see where they are at. My guess is it won't be that much further along than before they dismantled and blew up the team
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If Edmonton accepted bottom feeding team for 10 years why cant us? Because we live in Vancouver and everything needs to be high standards?
Not convinced Edmonton had been trying to tank for the last 10 years in a row. They just genuinely sucked. His many times did oilers fans say "we're going to make it next season just you watch. X that we just drafted will anchor the new dynasty and those guys we drafted the past couple years are due to break out." who knew you needed dmen and a goalie to be an actual decent team
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