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Manic! 08-13-2021 10:39 PM


whitev70r 08-16-2021 10:21 PM

Yikes ...


Eff-1 08-17-2021 10:06 AM

9.4% of BC's new car sales in 2020 were electric models

https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/bc-e...cle-statistics

Tesla: 18,830 in 2020 (12,586 in 2019; 5,034 in 2018)

Nissan: 7,184 in 2020 (6,367 in 2019; 4,349 in 2018)

Chevrolet: 4,466 in 2020 (3,833 in 2019; 2,452 in 2018)

KIA: 1,763 in 2020 (1,320 in 2019; 733 in 2018)

BMW: 968 in 2020 (963 in 2019; 785 in 2018)

Ford: 874 in 2020 (800 in 2019; 640 in 2018)

Hyundai: 2,810 in 2020 (1,531 in 2019; 272 in 2018)

Volkswagen: 1,117 in 2020 (773 in 2019; 331 in 2018)

Smart: 400 in 2020 (415 in 2019; 318 in 2018)

Fiat: 271 in 2020 (232 in 2019; 160 in 2018)

JDMDreams 08-21-2021 02:12 PM

I'm surprised no one mentioned this, the insurance even on the new rates on Tesla is crazy expensive. Over $2200+ pleasure senior use. My insurance guy says that's easily more expensive than more expensive Benz BMWFeelsBadMan

M Speed 08-22-2021 01:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JDMDreams (Post 9037179)
I'm surprised no one mentioned this, the insurance even on the new rates on Tesla is crazy expensive. Over $2200+ pleasure senior use. My insurance guy says that's easily more expensive than more expensive Benz BMWFeelsBadMan

Which Tesla? Some of the higher end spectrum Tesla are 6 figures vehicles.

But I'm not surprised as the repair cost for Tesla is high and wait for parts is. So factor in the chance of written off...Tesla and other EV are subject to higher insurance cost.

JDMDreams 08-22-2021 08:35 AM

Just a model 3:rukidding:

TypeRNammer 08-22-2021 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JDMDreams (Post 9037227)
Just a model 3:rukidding:

Sounds about right, I'm paying $190 a month for my model 3 with the following

2 million liability
1000 collision
300 comprehensive

To and from work more than 15km

!Aznboi128 08-22-2021 12:17 PM

jeebus $190 w/ 1000 collision? Why is it that much

JDMDreams 08-22-2021 01:48 PM

Aluminium and I guess shortage of parts. My insurance guy said it's because you can't really repair panels, just replace with new

I thought it would be cheap cuz it has the latest safety tech and auto brake but costs more than my 2000s tin cans

M Speed 08-23-2021 01:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TypeRNammer (Post 9037231)
Sounds about right, I'm paying $190 a month for my model 3 with the following

2 million liability
1000 collision
300 comprehensive

To and from work more than 15km

Did you get some rebate from ICBC?

!Aznboi128 08-23-2021 06:46 AM

This is actually pretty interesting, a lot of buyers take the savings at the pump as a consideration but no one really thinks about cost of insurance as well. I mean the higher cost doesn't equate to the amount of gas but it brings it closer.

bcrdukes 08-23-2021 06:52 AM

You're right about that. More often than not, people do not consider the total cost of ownership (TCO) while doing their shopping. It's possible that people aren't particularly interested in seeing the full picture, but more so jumping ahead of the market to adopt EV/Hybrids and keeping up with the Jones'.

SumAznGuy 08-23-2021 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bcrdukes (Post 9037310)
You're right about that. More often than not, people do not consider the total cost of ownership (TCO) while doing their shopping. It's possible that people aren't particularly interested in seeing the full picture, but more so jumping ahead of the market to adopt EV/Hybrids and keeping up with the Jones'.

The insurance on my Leaf went down by quite a bit with the new ICBC rates.
I just renewed and it was under $1700 for the year with all coverage.

tegra7 08-23-2021 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TypeRNammer (Post 9037231)
Sounds about right, I'm paying $190 a month for my model 3 with the following

2 million liability
1000 collision
300 comprehensive

To and from work more than 15km

Is this full icbc and do you have replacement cost coverage?

Traum 08-23-2021 09:45 AM

One excuse about this is how the cost of insurance for different vehicles is far less accessible than other pricing-related information. Imagine trying to cross-shop between 3 different vehicles. How many of us will go to an ICBC agent and ask him to ring up the cost of insurance for each car?

On the other hand, the MSRP for a car is something we can readily check on our own through the Internet.

Quote:

Originally Posted by bcrdukes (Post 9037310)
You're right about that. More often than not, people do not consider the total cost of ownership (TCO) while doing their shopping. It's possible that people aren't particularly interested in seeing the full picture, but more so jumping ahead of the market to adopt EV/Hybrids and keeping up with the Jones'.


JDMDreams 08-23-2021 10:00 AM

And everyone else will have different rates depending on their history and policy.

Still feels good to not have to spend $100 a week on gas driving a shit box :badpokerface:

I mean if I get to daily a lambo then sure the gas is worth it, but sure feels bad if you barely have 150hp and still gotta pay that:okay:

bcrdukes 08-23-2021 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Traum (Post 9037327)
One excuse about this is how the cost of insurance for different vehicles is far less accessible than other pricing-related information. Imagine trying to cross-shop between 3 different vehicles. How many of us will go to an ICBC agent and ask him to ring up the cost of insurance for each car?

On the other hand, the MSRP for a car is something we can readily check on our own through the Internet.

I can't speak for others so I may be in the minority; I always cross check on insurance rates on a few cars I have in mind to help me make a decision. There have been a few situations where cost of insurance was significant enough for me to move on and pass. In most cases, it's splitting hairs. Insurance is just one piece of the puzzle. There's gas, repairs, parts, service options, consumables, and the list goes on.

It pays to build a strong relationship with a good insurance agent. I still have one in Vancouver for ICBC stuff and I have a few that I work with here in Ontario where the insurance game is on an entirely different league of their own. Needless to say, I am in no rush to get a hybrid or EV anytime soon.

Edit: I always forget everyone here is a baller.

TypeRNammer 08-23-2021 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by !Aznboi128 (Post 9037243)
jeebus $190 w/ 1000 collision? Why is it that much

Probably cause newer car and also living in the Collingwood area.

Quote:

Originally Posted by M Speed (Post 9037299)
Did you get some rebate from ICBC?

Previous policy was $250, after the enhanced care update, the rebate went back into the policy, making the monthly payment about $170, after renewal then it became $190. Only thing that's discounted is the autonomous emergency braking.

Driver factor 0.56



Quote:

Originally Posted by tegra7 (Post 9037313)
Is this full icbc and do you have replacement cost coverage?

It is full ICBC, no replacement coverage

EvoFire 08-23-2021 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Traum (Post 9037327)
One excuse about this is how the cost of insurance for different vehicles is far less accessible than other pricing-related information. Imagine trying to cross-shop between 3 different vehicles. How many of us will go to an ICBC agent and ask him to ring up the cost of insurance for each car?

On the other hand, the MSRP for a car is something we can readily check on our own through the Internet.

I always checked insurance before, it's a big deal that doesn't go away unless you don't drive it at all.

Koflach 08-23-2021 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JDMDreams (Post 9037179)
I'm surprised no one mentioned this, the insurance even on the new rates on Tesla is crazy expensive. Over $2200+ pleasure senior use. My insurance guy says that's easily more expensive than more expensive Benz BMWFeelsBadMan

You should start shopping it around, try Stratford for you optional insurance. I switched to them and saved a lot over ICBC. I think i'm paying somewhere around $150-$160 for ICBC/Stratford for full business use and I have a 2021 Model 3 AWD.

That being said, 3 years ago on my hyundai sonata I was paying about $195/month for full business use.

donk. 08-23-2021 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bcrdukes (Post 9037310)
You're right about that. More often than not, people do not consider the total cost of ownership (TCO) while doing their shopping. It's possible that people aren't particularly interested in seeing the full picture, but more so jumping ahead of the market to adopt EV/Hybrids and keeping up with the Jones'.

This is why i like sportscars
You break even, or you make money :toot:

On a side note


StylinRed 08-23-2021 03:06 PM

I saw a tiktok about a new cadillac EV suv, dunno the model, but it looks great, and starts under 60k usd

!Aznboi128 08-23-2021 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StylinRed (Post 9037395)
I saw a tiktok about a new cadillac EV suv, dunno the model, but it looks great, and starts under 60k usd

Most likely the Lyriq. It starts at 60k but most of the good stuff that it offers will be on higher models.

dachinesedude 08-31-2021 12:19 PM

just got on the wait list for a Rav4 Prime, est. delivery Q4 2022, 2023 model lol yeesh

Alpine 08-31-2021 12:40 PM

https://www.greencarreports.com/news...glimpse-inside

Subaru's sister version of the Toyota bz-4x concept car. No specs yet...


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