I would just turn on the heated seats and wear a jacked. Heated seats use way less power.

Yeah, if you're going into -20C weather, you'd be wearing a jacket anyway and intermittently run the car for heat. Why would anyone idle for 10 hours, that's just asking to run out of gas when the highway reopens or get CO poisoning.

I was stuck on the coq a few years back in winter and it was quite scary as I totally didn't prepare for it. No food or really drinks. Had about less than half a tank of gas? Car drove fine but it was due to the fact that they shut down the highway and no one could u turn as there was dividers. And there was no cell reception so we didn't really know how long we would be stuck for.

I agree you probably wouldn't want to run it full time, but things can cool off fast so it might not save you much. You see horribly unprepared people get stuck/crash on the Coq all the time so the only real difference would be they'd need a tow and not just a jerry can.

Why would you get CO poisoning by idling in open air halfway up a mountain?

does this happen few times a week at least or just after a very bad crash few times a year

and it's an extra hour or two added? never driven it in the winter

within the city i remember being redirected to queensborough bridge at snails pace when knight st had a closure and i was at or below E

on road trips i never let it go below 1/4 haha

I love it when there's competition............. sit back and wait for EV's to evolve to the point where ICE wouldn't make sense to buy

Ice doesn't make sense to buy now when gas is $1.44

Well that was short lived, Tesla kills off the model Y standard range

https://insideevs.com/news/489607/te...ard-range/amp/

A 25k civic still makes more sense than a 45k model 3.

Especially if you have range anxiety

Damn no model y for me. I was waiting for them to drop the price cuz they did in japan and USA

single motor ID.4 0-60 8.5s

ok its buyers aren't gonna care and that's fine for ICE but seems lethargic for an EV

Actually not really, like I mentioned previously, Nissan wants 3.99% to finance the leaf I think they quoted me about $580 72 mth.

I just specced a mid level prius prime without the tech package. Toyota wants 4.49% to finance 72 mth and the payments are $616 a mth.

Tesla quoted me 2.4% for 96mth at around $562 a month. Yes it is longer and more money but you can drive tesla for less than the price of a leaf. And given the current interest rate and investment environment I rather finance at as low rate as possible and keep cash to invest.

How is the Tesla less than the Leaf?

^ in terms of interest, and monthly payment. And you also get more range on the Tesla. I think like 230 vs 400km

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I weave in and out of traffic all the time.......... and I don't drive a Tesla.

I agree with you that they are almost a dime a dozen, but you see that in just about any municipality. Bring in the clones, I say.

What is ice? I'm new to this thread. Decided on getting a model 3 in June.

Internal combustion engine

The Ioniq 5 looks interesting. Of course, price will be a huge factor once that info is released. I don't know if I like Hyundai pumping out new models that seemingly gets killed every other year though.

What's the reliability and parts availability for the Nissan like? The extra $18/mo might be worth it to not have a huge wait for parts should you need them.

They probably make more sense now than they will later. I'm waiting to see when EV running costs start to go up. Eventually the cost of electricity will go up when the grid can't keep up, and at some point EV's are going to have to start chipping in for the stuff currently covered by the $0.24-36/L in taxes on gas.

am i missing something? have there been anti-tesla people out there trashing teslas? there's so many teslas on the road now it it's mainstream...

i don't recall seeing anything in the news

^^ plus you gotta be stupid to do anything to the Tesla, they have like 360 dash cam and sentry mode

if you're a fanatic you won't care, look at the anti-maskers starting shit, filming themselves and posting it to their social media like they're in the right with this look on their face EleGiggle

What parts do you need though?

I was able to easily grab wiper blades and cabin air filters at the local Tesla store.

The only thing that's a pain in the ass are body shops since there are only a few shops that are Tesla approved. And the wait list could be months before the body shop can start repairing your Tesla.

I thought there was a huge backlog on repair parts from Tesla atm?