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#7651 | | Where's my RS Christmas Lobster?!
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Originally Posted by JDMDreams  Yes but vw and Porsche is broke | Yeah, they have that problem now, but that's why they signed the $6 billion dollar deal in tranches that need to be unlocked by Rivian. Quote:
Originally Posted by Traum I'm surprised to hear that the Rivian engineers / software developers aren't able to meet the performance benchmarks. Back when they first demoed their stuff on Audis, it seemed like they were able to pull out some pretty crazy stops to get the Audis working. | When I say performance, I meant sales performance. Like Rivian has to sell this number of vehicles and make that amount of profit, etc. Clearly that isn't happening.
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Today, 01:49 PM
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#7652 | | Need to Shave n Shower, but I CANT STOP POSTING ON RS
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50% of the cars coming from China have to be below 35k according to the deal.
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Today, 03:53 PM
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#7653 | | Where's my RS Christmas Lobster?!
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Originally Posted by AstulzerRZD What each region optimizes for:
- EU protects other pedestrians, cyclists, breathing, etc.
- NA protects Americans and their unbelted, head-on, rollover crashes with pickup trucks on highways
Regulatory approach:
- ECE type rating is performance-based - do whatever you want as long as you don't cause harm. Matrix headlights? Fine, just don't blind anyone. Chinese ADAS? Fine, just store data securely.
- NA FMVSS is prescriptive. Your headlight has two states, your battery vents _this_ way. This is why matrix headlights and Audi wagons didn't make it here.
Crash test difficulty:
- Basic NHTSA is not too hard - adds roof crush, the barriers are rigid, and unbelted test.
- IIHS is the real challenge - small overlap is 7x harder, side impact is 2x harder, and the insurers that fund it will absolutely wanna put Chinese EVs through this to price their risk.
Most car companies design for both, but if your primary market doesn't have a hard crash test, they're not gonna add extra 12 months, 10M in cost, and $1-3k in cost per car to meet US regs. | so how long do you suppose we have to wait before Chinese EVs are allowed in Canada?
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Today, 04:07 PM
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#7654 | | HELP ME PLS!!!
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My guess is at least 2 calendar years away, and that's being generous.
Even if they start work now, it'll be a year to get the changes required and another year to get it all tested and certified, so probably MY2029 in late 2028.
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Today, 04:19 PM
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#7655 | | Anal Mcgee
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i can wait, no new cars are interesting at all. ill wait for my zeekr 009 minivan
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Today, 06:36 PM
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#7656 | | Need to Shave n Shower, but I CANT STOP POSTING ON RS
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How did vinfast get into Canada and the US so fast?
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