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Old 01-16-2016, 08:03 AM   #1
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Taiwan's First Female President

Congrat Tsai Ing-wen, hope Taiwan will stay independent.




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Nevermind that she's female, the fact that her party isn't willing to sell out to China is what's important.

The debacle that has been Hong Kong over the last 5 years must have scared the shit out of people in Taiwan...
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happy for the people in TW to get their democracy and such
never bow down to china.

HK is a mess nowadays
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ok I don't know anything about political thing about Taiwan but is Taiwan supposed to be China?
I thought Taiwan was a country but China seems to disagree? I have seen "Made in Taiwan" logo on some products too.
I heard there used to be "Made in Hong Kong" but not anymore.

Is it like Quebec wants to be a country but Canada says no, and Quebec went ahead and call themselves a country but Canada never approved?
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my phone's autocorrect last night would not recognize 'Taiwan' in a chat message...never happened before and it's fine now...super strange.

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My anti KMT taiwanese friend is so happy.
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ok I don't know anything about political thing about Taiwan but is Taiwan supposed to be China?
I thought Taiwan was a country but China seems to disagree? I have seen "Made in Taiwan" logo on some products too.
I heard there used to be "Made in Hong Kong" but not anymore.

Is it like Quebec wants to be a country but Canada says no, and Quebec went ahead and call themselves a country but Canada never approved?
Basically KMT overthrow the Qing dynasty in China, officially ending emperorism in China. The current ruling party in China was basically the rebels when KMT was ruling the entire China. After a chain of events KMT was overthrown and took the entire party and escape to Taiwan and declare themselves seperate from China. Nothing was officially accepted by China or the rest of the world. Taiwan has since turn democratic. The debate on whether they are two seperate "countries" continues to this day.

For what it's worth the officially father of new China was and still is the original father for KMT this is agree by China and Taiwan.

A lot more complicated than the situation with Quebec and Taiwan imo actually have the history and the culture to declare themselves a seperate country while Quebec is just a rebellious teenager

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Video of K-pop singer Chou Tzu-yu apologising for waving flag angers Taiwanese on polling day, East Asia News & Top Stories - The Straits Times


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Yes, that's how sensitive or insecure the mainland Chinese (or at least its officials) are about the topic.

A girl waving a flag of RoC (Republic of China), she must be a separatist.

For fucksake, she's 16... barely had her pubic hair and they think she can suddenly shake the autotitarian regime in China?!? How dumb and insecure are they?
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its a joke when the mainlanders run up to live race events to pulls Taiwanese flags down.
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and it is a joke when mainlanders accused 16yr old singer she is causing Taiwan to separate from China. Lost her contract with LG commercial





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ok I don't know anything about political thing about Taiwan but is Taiwan supposed to be China?
I thought Taiwan was a country but China seems to disagree? I have seen "Made in Taiwan" logo on some products too.
I heard there used to be "Made in Hong Kong" but not anymore.

Is it like Quebec wants to be a country but Canada says no, and Quebec went ahead and call themselves a country but Canada never approved?
different scenario we have for Quebec
Nationalist Party (Kuo Ming Tang) was once the leading party after the Qing Dynasty until they were defeated during Chinese Civil War and setup their headquarter again in Taiwan
Not sure how this can be defined politically and nationally.
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I think a lot of people forget that KMT doesn't consider Taiwan their entire country either - it's only a part of the Republic of China. They also include all of Mainland China, along with Mongolia, etc. Basically both ROC and PRC consider themselves "Mainland China". Neither recognizes that the other one "won" or "lost" the civil war.

I think the fact that the PRC were supported by USSR is what forced the rest of the world to basically give in and recognize them as the party of China.
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it's pretty complicated...many Canadians will try to draw a parallel to Quebec separatist but it's simply not comparable. The majority is content with status-quo...simply because they dont want to cause tension (thousands of Chinese ICBMs still pointed at the island built up from the mid-90's)

I think without getting too deep into it...Anthony Bourdain's analogy sort of works: for most of the preexisting Taiwanese gov't is akin to an alternative reality if communism never swept China. No Great Leap Fwd...no cultural revolution. Written traditional character would likely still be the standard. Totalitarianism and mass murder would've still likely happened, though. Neoconfucianism with some japanese influence then you sort of scratch the surface of Taiwan. Similar in many ways; language, food, beliefs etc but still a noticeably divergent identity.
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supposedly China was threatening to attack if the KMT lost the election, or that was the threat that the KMT was making to Taiwanese voters

now I'm just waiting to see if the new president will release the former president from prison, they've treated him rather poorly
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If China "attacks" Taiwan, I wonder if the US will get involved?

The bookseller case is already fucked up...and now one of the dudes "confessed" to a drunk driving incident

https://www.hongkongfp.com/2016/01/1...h-on-state-tv/
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If China "attacks" Taiwan, I wonder if the US will get involved?

The bookseller case is already fucked up...and now one of the dudes "confessed" to a drunk driving incident

https://www.hongkongfp.com/2016/01/1...h-on-state-tv/
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Do most Canadians really think Taiwan/China is like Quebec/Canada? Or is it just Timpo.......

People who don't know are most likely the type who don't know where Taiwan is on the map. Not you, Timpo........... We know you trollin', trollin' down the river

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yes I know some friends (who are also asian) trying to compare taiwan's case with quebec
i've also encountered ones who confuse taiwan with thailand
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Canada / Quebec is probably closer to China / HK
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Canada / Quebec is probably closer to China / HK
More like China/Tibet since HK at one point was separate from China. HK citizen still has a slightly different passport, different currency etc.

Vs Tibet wants to separate because of a cultural differences and China won't allow them.

At least that's based on my understanding.
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