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Old 01-29-2016, 09:02 AM   #26
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[QUOTE=meme405;8721595]There was a very simple fix to this, turn the light around. That's how I have them on my truck when I am not using it. As soon as I hit an FSR or mine road, I loosen the wingnut on the end and turn it the other way round.

must have the off-road lamps concealed with opaque covers.
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Technically you are still in violation of the law...driver behind also deserve to not be exposed to the light.
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Behind? Most bars are in front of the grill. I don't think many people are hiding behind your grill. lol.

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I'm guessing Zulu is thinking of the typical headache bar mounted lights many trucks used to have. Mines mounted just below the front plate, so if I aim it backwards and turn it on I have a really easy to read plate, or if I aim it down I can find the tools I dropped under it when I'm inevitably trying to fix it.
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I sincerely hope you bring up this complaint with the proper people and don't let it drop. To me this is unacceptable and yet another example of overstepping boundaries.
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I sincerely hope you bring up this complaint with the proper people and don't let it drop. To me this is unacceptable and yet another example of overstepping boundaries.

You sound like an entitled American university student...."boundaries"???....that statement is a "micro aggression"....I'm tellin Mom!!!!
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this minor cop rage will be a waste of everyone's time if u take it any further.
suck it up and move on.
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There was a very simple fix to this, turn the light around. That's how I have them on my truck when I am not using it. As soon as I hit an FSR or mine road, I loosen the wingnut on the end and turn it the other way round.
must have the off-road lamps concealed with opaque covers.
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Technically you are still in violation of the law...driver behind also deserve to not be exposed to the light.
#1 - Berz is absolutely right my bar is on my bumper, so turning it around results in it facing into the front of my car.

#2 - it's the thought that counts, the reason this law exists is to prevent drivers from blinding each other accidentally or on purpose. Flipping the bar around shows any reasonable officer who isn't a dickhead that you atleast made an attempt to be a law abiding citizen.

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suck it up and move on.
Normally I'm with letting things go, but in this instance I'd say follow it up. If someone in my work environment pulled something like this and we were made aware of it, for sure there would be consequences. At the end of the day there is a procedure set out for the officer to follow, that procedure is the VI process, if he really wanted the car off the road, he could have given the car a box 1 and then it would have been up to an authorized inspector to make the call. An officer on the side of the road has no authority to start removing parts off a car or damaging someones property.
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Can we get confirmation that aux lights also need to be covered if they are below headlight height? It's always been my understanding they only need to be covered if they are above headlight height.
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Can we get confirmation that aux lights also need to be covered if they are below headlight height? It's always been my understanding they only need to be covered if they are above headlight height.
No, you can't get confirmation, because your understanding is incorrect.

(2) The headlamps must be mounted at a height of not less than 56 cm and not more than 1.37

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4.09 (1) A motor vehicle may be equipped with 2 auxiliary driving lamps, mounted on the front of the vehicle at a height of not less than 40 cm and not more than 1.06 m, that are capable of displaying onlywhite light.
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^ It was my understanding that they also have to be tied into the high/low circuit correctly so you still have a max of 4 forward facing lights on at a time, but I could be wrong.
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Update: After the meeting with the Staff Sgt with the officer also present the officer has been instructed to purchase my employee a new light bar. I feel this is a pretty clear indication that what the officer did was clearly a wrong doing. The officer will now have to wait to have another officer present as well in any future dealings with my employee as per the conversation.

Justice. Is. Served.

Edit. Also this was the "easy way out" for the officer and from what I understand my employee agreed to the new lightbar in lieu of other possible punishment for the officer.

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Update: After the meeting with the Staff Sgt with the officer also present the officer has been instructed to purchase my employee a new light bar. I feel this is a pretty clear indication that what the officer did was clearly a wrong doing. The officer will now have to wait to have another officer present as well in any future dealings with my employee as per the conversation.

Justice. Is. Served.

Edit. Also this was the "easy way out" for the officer and from what I understand my employee agreed to the new lightbar in lieu of other possible punishment for the officer.

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That is awesome OP! Good for you!
Just a personal opinion from an entitled universtity student! Please don't taze me zultango.
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That is awesome OP! Good for you!
Just a personal opinion from an entitled universtity student! Please don't taze me zultango.

I don't Taze anyone anymore...have to rely on my S&W Model 29 .44 these days.
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Glad it worked out for the OP.

I understand the law, but you have to laugh at the irony. High brightness lights controlled by the driver, activated when conditions warrant it are illegal to have uncovered. Unless they're the OE high-beams.

I don't think I've ever been blinded by someone's "off-road" light bar. I've been blinded countless times by granny in her Camry with high-beams on, however.
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Glad it worked out for the OP.

I understand the law, but you have to laugh at the irony. High brightness lights controlled by the driver, activated when conditions warrant it are illegal to have uncovered. Unless they're the OE high-beams.

I don't think I've ever been blinded by someone's "off-road" light bar. I've been blinded countless times by granny in her Camry with high-beams on, however.
Clearly you haven't driven in Kelowna (aka Alberta west), where people run light bars like a DRL. The key difference is also that high beams can be used legally on the road at correct times, but light bars can't.
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I suppose it's better to collide with a bear, or some horses then.
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People drove their vehicles at night for a hundred years without the need to project pure daylight ahead of them. I have a 20" light bar on my Jeep, I actually do go off-road at night, and it's more than sufficient.

80% of the guys who deck their rigs out like small suns never even leave the pavement. If you hit a bear or a horse in the Wal-Mart parking lot, a) you're going too fast, b) there are bigger things to be concerned about.
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Easy to say until you almost get killed because 3 horses are on the highway like what happened to me. Just because people "got by" with out LED bars doesn't mean they don't help. There are 10000 REPORTED collisions with animals in BC per year, if even 10% of those could be avoided by better lighting and more time to react, I would say that's a pretty significant statistic. For the record My lightbar indeed saved my vehicle and perhaps my life as well as my family by giving me enough time to slow down and avoid 3 stray horses on the highway. This is why I find the "law" so frustrating. They help. I'm proof of that. One of my good friends just wrote off his Subaru because he swerved and avoided a moose and hit a tree. Had he had an LED light bar, which he now has on his new vehicle, He swears he could have slowed down and avoided a crash with the increased reaction time.

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Have you got yours wired all on its own or tied into the highbeam circuit?
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On it's own. Switch is located right beside the steering wheel. I go off roading and camping so I have it so I can use it without having the ignition on if needed. I also have two square lights mounted on each corner of the rear of my Dodge so I can see better backing up my trailer. (Also a great high beam in the rear view deterrent lol)

I'm also very aware of just how bright my lights are and I even went to a long stretch of road to see how far the light was reaching and how bright. My basic rule is, if I can see any approaching light from a vehicle I switch the bar off. Even if it's kilometers away.

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