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I honestly don't think they were traumatized. If they are that old and come from some place in Asia, they have most likely experienced their share of oppression. They probably knew what they were doing. They probably had their share of standing up against tanks and protesting.
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should have just threatened them with MORE strata fees....guy would've been on his feet in a second instead of acting like a child on the floor. too much force -- going for the wallet works better.
Thing is this wasn't even in their building. It was in a Best Western, and when the fight began at the meeting, it was called and everyone was kicked out. Them refusing to leave a place of business and them not being guests of the hotel also meant they were unwanted guests.
If they chose the dead weight route, they can be forcibly removed/arrested etc.
Im not saying the actions of the officers were warranted or not, but its also hard to say what happened before then. A little bit more patience may have helped. But also resisting arrest is resisting arrest....
Can you not have two officers carry the old man on each end?
i was thinking more of a fireman's carry but if they resist then cuffing his hands behind his back and then around his ankles and then just doing a modified fireman's carry but only hooking the leg...basically throwing him over the shoulder like a sack of potatoes.
The cops fucked up professionally. This is what happens when cops are trained to deal with thugs in society and totally don't know how to handle every day domestic disturbances. The cops here pretty much lost his temper and just wanted to end it rather than resolving it. Not that the elder couple made it easy for them to resolve it.
Moral of the story: Don't start nothing, if you don't want nothing.
There's no question that the old couple was wrong for resisting here. However, it's extremely difficult to justify the way the police handled that old man. Remove the girl from the scene and handcuff the couple. Then carry each one of them out in a safe manner.
Old man got yanked pretty hard by the guy in glasses (probably gonna sue RCMP for hip replacement, traumatized experience) but the old lady seems to be handled ok?
All this over a strata meeting.... The glass officer needs a scolding. The old couple should be ashamed of themselves. All those years on them heads and pull that kind of stun.
This is in no way "police brutality" though. Dont be crazy.
There are people in the background that spoke Korean and English that could have translated. Just seemed like nobody wanted to help do anything and gave the cops a difficult time doing their job. The guy filming is annoying. Would have got one officer to keep all of them at a distance to make the scene safe to work.
There are people in the background that spoke Korean and English that could have translated. Just seemed like nobody wanted to help do anything and gave the cops a difficult time doing their job. The guy filming is annoying. Would have got one officer to keep all of them at a distance to make the scene safe to work.
I bet those Korean speakers had asked the old people to leave in their native language and the grandparents refused to the point the cops had to be called.
I don't buy the fact of the language barrier. Someone called the cops which means they probably were losing their patience with the grandparents before they made the call. Grandparents knew they were causing a fuss and I bet someone had told them in Korean to gtfo.
Remember, the call was for a fight at the Best Western and when the police show up, the caller pointed to the grandparents as the agitators. Police on scene tell everyone to go home. Grandparents still refuse to leave in a civil manner. Nobody wanted to help because maybe they were tired of the grandparents and their actions and wanted them gone.
People think this situation is the elderly vs. the police. But they seem to forget the elderly were fighting before the police got there.
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If this was somewhere else you can be damn sure no one would be expecting a fucking police translator. If you can't speak the language in a country, you better be on your best behaviour when you meet a cop. It's a shame that it escalated to this, but to make suggestions like that is borderline hilarious. You think they just have 200 translators ready at a moments notice for every language?
*yes I understand people in this thread are suggesting the people there translate that had the option*
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Police authority in Korea is a joke. Because of the whole 'respect your elders' mantra, a lot of old people in Korea will just shout and yell things like "DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM" and "HOW OLD ARE YOU" to the police and some will get away with it. Most police in Korea do not carry guns. Most police in Korea are either young and unexperienced, or old and just not giving a fuck.
That said, the old people in the video may still have some of this ingrained in their minds, because that's the society they most likely spent most of their lives in. Some old korean people are stubborn as fuck. Donno if it was necessary dragging them down the stairs (instead of carrying, or something), but I'm inclined to say I have little sympathy for them with the information available.
Korean society is changing, but even in May when I was there you could still see old people who are clearly drunk, pulled out from their cars that they were driving drunk, shouting and yelling what I said above.
Source: am Korean.
tl;dr: as a Korean, I'm immediately inclined to say the old people were being stupid.
The couple posed no threat to anyone. Though they may be wrong in not following orders, the RCMP used poor judgement given the situation. Instead of calming situation it was escalated. That's where they failed. If the elderly man wanted to talk while on the damn floor, let him be. Were handcuffs/force really needed?
I do feel a bit sorry for the kid though, she will forever be traumatized with the cops for sure.
They disrespected her whole family!
Man, I can't wait until I'm old, so I can do whatever the fuck I want and be a complete asshole to everyone and when I receive a fully deserved righteous beatdown, I can get everyone on my side just because I'm old....
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