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Everyone dun goofed here.. I don't doubt that the elderly people instigated and escalated the situation, however, the cop was an idiot for handling the man with the kind of physical action. You use physical force appropriate for the situation, and the fact that he was even able to drag the man down the stairs points to the obvious difference in physicality between the officer and the 80 year old..
I would generalize that, anyone that you're able to drag down the stairs by their feet while they are resisting is a person you probably shouldn't drag down the stairs..
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I dunno. Maybe cause I'm also old, but how long is a cop supposed to sit back and wait for a senior citizen to cooperate with a simple request of "please, go home."
this Victor Kim (guy who filmed the video) is making me mad more than anything else
complaining like a little bitch but all he is doing is holding a cell phone filming the entire time
in the second video he claims that the grandma needs an ambulance and instructs the RCMP to call for one. Buddy, you're holding a fucking phone in your hand, if the grandma needs an ambulance why don't you call for one?
I mean, was it necessary to drag him down the stairs? Why didn't the two officer just carry the old man out? Then come back and carry the old lady out?
THEY'RE OLD PEOPLE FFS! What threat do they pose? Dumb ass officer can't make justifiable decisions...
As a Korean, one of the first things you learn is that police don't fuck around here. Literally the first lesson you encounter after landing in Canada is to be on your best behaviour with the customs officer because authorities don't mess around here.
Korean and elder or not, I don't feel sorry for them at all. The dead weight tactic speaks volumes of their irresponsibility. Not to mention the ignoring of the child.
However, the cop that dragged the grandpa down the stairs looks to be untrained in his use of force. Does he even lift? shame on him.
Cops in the tri-cities esp Port Moody PD and Coquitlam RCMP are bored as fuck and get extremely amped up to the thought of using their ass kicking training / weapons. Don't tempt them...
I mean, was it necessary to drag him down the stairs? Why didn't the two officer just carry the old man out? Then come back and carry the old lady out?
THEY'RE OLD PEOPLE FFS! What threat do they pose? Dumb ass officer can't make justifiable decisions...
You're right, what could anyone possibly have to fear from old people?
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You gotta commend them for not tazing though. "Police tazed elder immigrant couple" headline would be a headache for RCMP. The "fuck the police" crew would be out in full force.
the polarizing comments here shows who was raised with western values vs traditional Asian values
'to earn respect you have to give it' vs 'respect your elders'
I was conflicted by the two school of thought growing up and it was always easier to understand the former but now I believe more in the latter
I think most would agree the seniors here are being absolutely stubborn. The authorities had the right to remove them, by force if necessary. A translator would be nice but there's the universal body language for GTFO should be very apparent regardless of age or language barriers.
What made it disturbing is someone who's frail is dragged by their feet down a flight of stairs when they weren't being physically aggressive
So numerous articles also state that the elderly couple was arrested and charged, which means they did something that warranted it beforehand.
Edit: So word on the street is the grandpa was being escorted out by the officer at the stair landing, when grandpa punched and started kicking the officer. The officer fended the hits off and the guy fell, thats why he was laying down on the landing. Then he was arrested for assaulting a police officer and actively resisted arrest then eventually did the dead weight thing.
The grandma was also being escorted out by the other officer when she tried to smash a glass over the officers head, so she was also arrested for assaulting a police officer, then the resisting arrest you can see in the video. So all the while cop was trying to cuff grandma, but shes pulling away, and grand daughter screaming and hitting the officer, and actually bit the cop in the hand at one point.
The cop dealing with the grandma had so much restraint.
This is hearsay, but it all makes sense.
Last edited by SolidPenguin; 10-31-2016 at 07:22 PM.
I mean, was it necessary to drag him down the stairs? Why didn't the two officer just carry the old man out? Then come back and carry the old lady out?
THEY'RE OLD PEOPLE FFS! What threat do they pose? Dumb ass officer can't make justifiable decisions...
Even though they are old people, after XX amount of minutes of telling someone to do something but they wouldnt listen, your patients wears down.
What would you have done if you were that cop.. How long would have waited before doing something? So you have stood there for hours trying to convince them to leave? I think not, people would think your a pussy cop... LOL