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Old 03-26-2017, 10:14 PM   #1
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Marijuana will be legal in Canada by October 17 2018

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lol that might by one of the most pessimistic cynical posts I have ever seen on this forum, and that's a lot coming from me
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if you can't beat 'em, tax that shit.
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Does this mean that Liquor stores are gonna become dispensaries as well now? Or, will the provinces establish provincially regulated dispensaries that are like liquor stores, only they sell weed?
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I hope they're separate, I don't want to have to smell that shit every time I walk into a liquor store lol
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All the interviews I've heard have said they want to keep them seperate.

BS liberal pandering/timing to get re-elected. Talking like it was going to be legalized "soon" when they got elected, then said details would come down spring 2017, now pushing back the timeline to 2018 and potentially 2019 until it's actually realized? Fuck off
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^ Not sure I inderstand your argument... if it gets done, it gets done. It becomes "liberal pandering" just because you don't like the timing of it? Would the Conservative party have ever done this? What exactly do you want?

Are there really enough voting stoners in Canada to make it a method for re-election? I highly doubt that... if anything there's more anti-pot using type people in Canada than pro...
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^ Not sure I inderstand your argument... if it gets done, it gets done. It becomes "liberal pandering" just because you don't like the timing of it? Would the Conservative party have ever done this? What exactly do you want?

Are there really enough voting stoners in Canada to make it a method for re-election? I highly doubt that... if anything there's more anti-pot using type people in Canada than pro...
no offense, but this is absolutely retarded logic. it's not an even issue of the substance itself, but rather one of personal freedom. do you have sovereignty to your own body?

why do you have to be a stoner to see the benefit of increased tax revenue and reduced crime? and medical treatment for those who require it?
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^ Not sure I inderstand your argument... if it gets done, it gets done. It becomes "liberal pandering" just because you don't like the timing of it? Would the Conservative party have ever done this? What exactly do you want?

Are there really enough voting stoners in Canada to make it a method for re-election? I highly doubt that... if anything there's more anti-pot using type people in Canada than pro...
Agree with the first part but there's much more to it than just "stoners wanting to get high". There's a reason this was such an important issue in the election, which Vicious's reply above noted. It was one of my top issues in this election, and I haven't touched weed in probably 15+ years.
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I don't smoke but I'm all for the increased tax revenue it generates.
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I just hope everyone will shut up about it once it's legal.
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^ Not sure I inderstand your argument... if it gets done, it gets done. It becomes "liberal pandering" just because you don't like the timing of it? Would the Conservative party have ever done this? What exactly do you want?

Are there really enough voting stoners in Canada to make it a method for re-election? I highly doubt that... if anything there's more anti-pot using type people in Canada than pro...
They are obviously going to use it as leverage once the election rolls around as this genius move that brought in millions in tax dollars just prior to the election.

Honestly this doesn't effect myself or anyone I know who smokes. We've all been smoking in public and coming and going as freely as we have wanted for the last 10+ years. The legality of it has never effected anything. The only people who it effects are bozos like Marc and Jody emery who couldn't be more blatantly ignorant about their stance and attitude. Don't want to get arrested? Don't give police forces a middle finger on TV/in public in your actions. No one with half a brain can support their misguided campaign on legalization.

I'm just sick of government promises which are huge parts of getting them elected being pushed back so far they become issues for the NEXT election.
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Because of how hard it is to get a grow license I can see a shortage of weed when it is legalized. I can also see criminals still being involved. People growing 4 plants at home and then selling the weed instead of smoking it.
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how hard is it to grow a plant or two at home?
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Because of how hard it is to get a grow license I can see a shortage of weed when it is legalized. I can also see criminals still being involved. People growing 4 plants at home and then selling the weed instead of smoking it.
There was a period in early 2000's where a tonne of people who had illegal grows got into legal licenses and still have them to this day. I'm not sure if supply will be a problem, especially with the amount of commercial operations run by public companies popping up in the last few years.

the question is, will demand really increase that substantially once it's legalized? IE. People who did not smoke before are now picking it up because it's legal? i'm not so sure.
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Right now many who have personal use grow licenses actually farm the growing of their weed out to "legit" grow houses many of them owned and ran by some not so legit people. The license holders are paid a fee "under the table of course" and the weed is then sold out the back door on the street for street value. They can sit in plain site growing all day long.

The laws will affect those people which is a good thing IMO, the value of there product will go down.
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how hard is it to grow a plant or two at home?
If you have experience or aptitude with gardening, it's not much harder than growing tomato & peppers.
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im actually a little surprised. my friends and i were just discussing this the other day and we were sure the liberals were going to use it as a campaign promise during the next election hoping everyone would forget they broke the campaign promise this election.

the good news by legalizing it this early, is all the short attention span millennials will have forgotten about this huge favor from the liberals by the time the next election rolls around, and they wont have "legalize weed" to use as a single issue votor reason.
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the question is, will demand really increase that substantially once it's legalized? IE. People who did not smoke before are now picking it up because it's legal? i'm not so sure.
I doubt it. Like many other people said, only differences is that you'll be getting taxed on it, which would suck for those who enjoy weed. Back around the SOPA/PIPA controversy, I did a paper on marijuana legalization. Some of the various advantages to legalization included: reduction of policing and tax revenue. At the time, it was said that BC produces/consumes about 5x of how much agriculture we produce (it was awhile ago, if I can find the source, I will update). An argument I made, was that if BC taxed on this market, it could help fund numerous other in-need causes around the province.

Currently, Vancouver is known as the Amsterdam of Canada. Legal or not, people are consuming it. The only big benefit I would be able to see for regular users would be the guarantee of good quality, and not laced with other substances.

I actually suspect that the demand won't have a significant change. It is likely that during the short-term, the demand could increase. We could predict that because it is legal, more people would be willing to try it. However, there are still cultural or social stigmas in some areas, and it is also likely that the short term fluctuation would probably plateau thus returning to current. I also don't see criminal behaviour decreasing; people don't like to get taxed.
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I think demand will hover around 10-15% of the population. Same percentage of Canada that smokes cigarettes.

Actually the percentage in Nertherlands, where it is legal is 8%.

Still no where near as much as alcohol consumption.
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I doubt it. Like many other people said, only differences is that you'll be getting taxed on it
Things must have really changed since the time I last smoked it then. Because back then I'd have to cruise around looking for some dealer that sells weed or knows someone who does. It was a really shitty way to do it, having to deal with shitty people.

I hear now you can get a phony prescription practically instantly, but even that is more of a hassle than being able to walk in, show ID, buy something, and walk out, like you would with any other product.

Also legalization instantly lifts a stigma that has been attached to it (but weakening) since the 40's. My own mom is posting pro-cannabis shit on facebook and believe me, she was very much against it when I was in high school
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Things must have really changed since the time I last smoked it then. Because back then I'd have to cruise around looking for some dealer that sells weed or knows someone who does. It was a really shitty way to do it, having to deal with shitty people.
Yeah that sounds about 3-5 years ago. That was about when I first tried it, and that's what you'd have to do. Only recently found out about it, but now you can walk into some stores, and as long as you're 19+ you're free to purchase like any other product.

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All the interviews I've heard have said they want to keep them seperate.

BS liberal pandering/timing to get re-elected. Talking like it was going to be legalized "soon" when they got elected, then said details would come down spring 2017, now pushing back the timeline to 2018 and potentially 2019 until it's actually realized? Fuck off
for something controversial and big I was not expecting changes overnight...I think a few years to assess, consult, and amend the law seems fairly reasonable
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