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radioman 12-20-2017 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike Oxbig (Post 8879006)
Thank Jim's scouting.

Can we becoming the next Detroit with all these draft picks by Jim Benning? Obviously Virtanen was not his decision or else he would've drafted Ehlers.

Boeser at 23 and people still bitched when he was picked. lmao.

highfive 12-20-2017 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by radioman (Post 8879049)
Boeser at 23 and people still bitched when he was picked. lmao.

Canucks fans and even media. Probably win the cup and find something to bitch about. Why did they have the parade on THIS STREET!!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Oxbig (Post 8879006)
Thank Jim's scouting.

Can we becoming the next Detroit with all these draft picks by Jim Benning? Obviously Virtanen was not his decision or else he would've drafted Ehlers.

I thought Virtanen was his decision? I thought he wanted Sam Reinhart more.

Jmac 12-20-2017 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by radioman (Post 8879049)
Boeser at 23 and people still bitched when he was picked. lmao.

People mainly bitched because Konecny is Horvat's cousin and they wanted the Canucks to draft him and they had no idea who Boeser was.

https://www.revscene.net/forums/7039...thread-18.html

Jmac 12-20-2017 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by highfive (Post 8879056)
Canucks fans and even media. Probably win the cup and find something to bitch about. Why did they have the parade on THIS STREET!!!



I thought Virtanen was his decision? I thought he wanted Sam Reinhart more.

https://www.pressreader.com/canada/t...81943130974810

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Benning drafted future power forward Jake Virtanen, an actual local kid, passing on William Nylander, the player who had the most skill when the Canucks picked at No. 6.

Virtanen said for days he relishes pressure. Don’t worry, you’ll get loads of that, along with comparisons to players like Nylander.

Swedish scout Thomas Gradin thinks the world of Nylander, as many fans do, comparing him favourably to Sam Reinhart.

But Benning wanted size and edge with their first pick. Actually, that’s what they were looking for in just about every major decision they made in Philly. If you haven’t noticed a theme yet, you’re not paying enough attention.

“If you watch the NHL playoffs, you need guys with size and strength,” Benning said. “Guys who can get to the front of the net and deflect pucks and get rebounds.

“We were looking for that type of player.”

Asked about picking those types instead of players with more skill, Benning said:
“We’re going to get back to a meat-and-potatoes style in the trenches. Play hard. So we really didn’t consider that.”

...

The Canucks also drafted Swedish defenceman Gustav Forsling, who Gradin said has a booming shot.
While the rumour mill was surrounding the Canucks trading up to 1st overall to draft Reinhart, rumour was that Gradin felt Nylander was the best player in the draft.

Nylander's GM was also Markus Naslund, who had a very high opinion of him.

Some in the media speculated that the Canucks should take Ehlers, but I can't ever recall reading anything about anyone in the Canucks organization seriously pushing for him.

Everything I've read has been about Delorme and Benning targeting Reinhart (if they moved up), Virtanen, and Dal Colle in the 2014 draft.

(It should be noted here that Delorme was actually demoted by Gillis in 2012 in favour of Eric Crawford, who took over amateur scouting in addition to pro scouting and director of player personnel duties for the '12-'13 and '13-'14 seasons before Benning re-instated Delorme when he took over in 2014. Speculation was that Gillis was unhappy with Delorme's assessments and track record as the head of amateur scouting. Crawford, along with Henning and Gilman, were fired in the summer of 2015 reportedly because they often disagreed with Benning, with Trevor Linden insinuating as much in the interviews that followed.)

Fortunately, Benning has begun listening more to Gradin recently, who targeted Dahlen in the Burrows trade and Pettersson in this year's draft.

highfive 12-21-2017 12:12 AM

“If you watch the NHL playoffs, you need guys with size and strength,” Benning said. “Guys who can get to the front of the net and deflect pucks and get rebounds.

We have that in Virtanen but does he go to the front of the net and play that game? I don't feel like he does.

I thought Benning started listening more to Judd Brackett? Picking up the USHL guys too.

RickyTan3 12-21-2017 03:45 AM

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Originally Posted by highfive (Post 8879065)
“If you watch the NHL playoffs, you need guys with size and strength,” Benning said. “Guys who can get to the front of the net and deflect pucks and get rebounds.

We have that in Virtanen but does he go to the front of the net and play that game? I don't feel like he does.

I thought Benning started listening more to Judd Brackett? Picking up the USHL guys too.

We need to get to the playoffs first....

AzNightmare 12-21-2017 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Jmac (Post 8879057)
People mainly bitched because Konecny is Horvat's cousin and they wanted the Canucks to draft him and they had no idea who Boeser was.

https://www.revscene.net/forums/7039...thread-18.html


:lawl:
Reading old threads with today's knowledge is always hilarious.


Lol @ Boeser's bio.

https://i.imgur.com/ANKDJ3S.jpg

Jmac 12-21-2017 06:45 PM

Guddy!

Kilinim 12-21-2017 06:48 PM

Jake better keep using that stick :)

Jmac 12-21-2017 07:55 PM

Big Tuna!

belka 12-21-2017 07:57 PM

That JV goal was shades of McDavid.

Jmac 12-21-2017 08:07 PM

Gaunce with the stealth goal


Jmac 12-21-2017 08:08 PM

BROCK STAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Edit: Incoming screw job on review ...

Edit: No screw job!

Jmac 12-21-2017 08:13 PM

Also, we're halfway to this:

https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/2k...Yr3.png.cf.jpg

68style 12-21-2017 08:19 PM

Can anyone explain to me why Dowd is in the lineup almost every game? What does he ever do besides take shitty penalties?

Kilinim 12-21-2017 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by 68style (Post 8879211)
Can anyone explain to me why Dowd is in the lineup almost every game? What does he ever do besides take shitty penalties?

Because we just acquired him. He's getting a looksee until he's typecasted as a certain type of player.

68style 12-21-2017 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Kilinim (Post 8879213)
Because we just acquired him. He's getting a looksee until he's typecasted as a certain type of player.

I think we’ve seen enough.

bobbinka 12-21-2017 09:16 PM

aannnnd we are tied with oilers

dapperfied 12-21-2017 09:24 PM

Boeser got a point. A win in my books. :victory:

Kilinim 12-21-2017 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by 68style (Post 8879223)
I think we’ve seen enough.

I think the fact that he's a centre helps him stick around. At least until Bo or Sutter returns.

Ch28 12-21-2017 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by bobbinka (Post 8879224)
aannnnd we are tied with oilers

You make that sound like it's a bad thing.

Boeser continues racking up points and Canucks losing is the best thing possible. Canucks clearly aren't anything close to a contending team

https://i.imgur.com/rCfMenz.jpg

6o4__boi 12-22-2017 06:18 AM

As long as Brock gets a point, it's a W in my books

Nabatron 12-22-2017 09:23 AM

does anyone really know wtf is wrong with sutter? I mean he isn't our savior but he is a hell of a lot better then dowd

68style 12-22-2017 09:28 AM

Apparently it's in his contract with the Canucks that he has to get hurt every season now... he missed 11 games in 6 seasons before he signed with us, and that was including a MASSIVE hit he took in his rookie season that caused a concussion...

He's now missed 70+ games in less than 3 seasons here. Ridiculous.

He wouldn't have lost that faceoff OR taken the illegal faceoff move penalty that Dowd did, that's for sure.

Jmac 12-22-2017 11:29 AM

Well, the faceoff violation call was complete BS. The puck bounced up and was at waist level. That said, Dowd had more ice time in the 3rd than Boeser ...

Ballard was the same way, missed very few games prior to Vancouver then injuries galore.

Eastern conference guys seem to have a hard time adjusting to the west.

Sutter and Tanev out until the end of the month.
Horvat out until mid-January.
Baertschi out until mid-to-late January.

Going to be a rough end of 2017/beginning of 2018.


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