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MG1 02-16-2018 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Ch28 (Post 8888530)
Nothing more than that blueberry picking fuck pandering to the Chinese

Next you'll hear an earful from the Indo-Canadian community, if they don't put a symbol on their jersey when that time comes around. Do it for one, you gotta do it for the rest.



How about just winning some games?

UFO 02-16-2018 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by 68style (Post 8887986)
^ first comment I saw on the Facebook post announcing that was saying he has no idea how to scout / draft... lol... Canucks fans ��

I don't remember where I read this, but there is a belief out there that the Canucks recent draft successes are more attributed to the rise of Judd Bracket and his scouting systems as opposed to JB's renowned drafting prowess.

highfive 02-16-2018 11:26 PM


I don’t know I think he’s pretty involved in drafting. He went from meat and potatoes to speed and skill. I’d say he made final say on kole lind.

murd0c 02-17-2018 10:39 AM

he was all over Kole Lind right away, hopefully he keeps it up in the AHL after the great WHL year he's been having this year

Jmac 02-17-2018 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by UFO (Post 8888574)
I don't remember where I read this, but there is a belief out there that the Canucks recent draft successes are more attributed to the rise of Judd Bracket and his scouting systems as opposed to JB's renowned drafting prowess.

Botchford

murd0c 02-17-2018 12:01 PM

I think the scouting success is because of both factors.

Jmac 02-17-2018 12:12 PM

Even if the past draft was mostly Brackett, Benning promoted him there, so he gets credit either way for draft successes. Aside from Boeser, it's really too early to be calling Benning's draft record good or bad. He currently has 1 NHLer (arguably 2 if you assume Tryamkin would be in the lineup if he hadn't gone back to Russia). We have a lot of guys who look good like Pettersson, Demko, and Gaudette, but we've all seen guys who struggle to make the jump to the NHL.

Issues I have with Benning and Linden are the constant excuses, vague vision/plan, poor performance outside of drafting, poorly constructed team year-after-year, throwing advantages out the window, etc.

MG1 02-17-2018 06:16 PM

Not bad singing. A little heavy on the embellishments, but it could have been worse. Also, that outfit needed to be a bit more tailored to fit the singer. Not complaining, too much.

As you were..................

MG1 02-17-2018 06:18 PM

Chinese New Year good luck............ 1-0 with just two minutes in.


EDIT: 2-0 Danielle Sedin - tic-tac-two


EDIT: 3-0 Bo, Ho, Ho...................




still first period



Dog gone it........... two posts for Boston!

Tim Budong 02-17-2018 06:48 PM

guddy;s hit on marchand
tough physical hit, great leader

come on in and send ya offers NHL

lolol

MG1 02-17-2018 06:51 PM

4-0 Boeser

Tim Budong 02-17-2018 07:06 PM

JB interview with Chinese New Year music in the background
ahahahaa

CorneringArtist 02-17-2018 07:16 PM


MG1 02-17-2018 07:23 PM

Can't wait for it to be over............ you can only take so much of it (CNY).

tonyzoomzoom 02-17-2018 07:54 PM

too bad today is not June 15 2011...

Jmac 02-17-2018 08:31 PM

Too bad Eriksson only plays like this once a month.

AzNightmare 02-17-2018 11:06 PM

lol... All of Eriksson's goals always look so fluky.

sexyaccord 02-18-2018 07:33 PM

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UFO 02-19-2018 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Jmac (Post 8888647)
Even if the past draft was mostly Brackett, Benning promoted him there, so he gets credit either way for draft successes. Aside from Boeser, it's really too early to be calling Benning's draft record good or bad. He currently has 1 NHLer (arguably 2 if you assume Tryamkin would be in the lineup if he hadn't gone back to Russia). We have a lot of guys who look good like Pettersson, Demko, and Gaudette, but we've all seen guys who struggle to make the jump to the NHL.

Issues I have with Benning and Linden are the constant excuses, vague vision/plan, poor performance outside of drafting, poorly constructed team year-after-year, throwing advantages out the window, etc.

I'm of a similar mindset. I'm wasn't saying Benning isn't hands on with the draft; Benning and his team have done a good job with the draft so far, we can't deny that, but we also can't attribute all of the hits so far to his own eye for talent. If Brackett and team are as big a reason to the draft success as Benning himself, then losing JB doesn't necessarily mean our draft record will start tanking again. But I guess that is all moot now, at least for another 1-2 years.

My biggest issue are all of the things you mentioned. It takes more more than drafting good kids to win, even when you draft McJesus you can be at risk of not making the playoffs. JB/TL haven't demonstrated so far to me anyways that they can make the good signings, trades, and moves more often than the bad ones. They don't seem to me to be able to take advantage of their situations like MG/LG did before them.

If this team ever makes it to any place of significance in the playoffs, it will likely be on the backs of players drafted by JB. But it will be the supporting pieces added by the next management group that will be the difference makers.

F3 02-19-2018 10:46 AM

FailFish :stupid:

UFO 02-19-2018 11:25 AM

Sign Guddy, make Tanev and Hutton available for trades (either at TDL or draft), why not. Tanev is good but isn't a physical presence, and he will get us 4 times what Guddy would return. At this point Tanev's skillset when he's not injured is wasted here anyways.

I'm not a fan of Guddy's play here so far, but can see his (limited) upside and the above plan would be more constructive than trading him away for even 2 2nd round picks at TDL

dbaz 02-19-2018 12:55 PM

if tanev is traded and he signs for under 4.25 I wont like it, but ill be ok with it.
need someone to fight, and be good in locker room while young players come in next couple years.
don't want petterson to get boarded and then the team ignore it for the rest of the game

Jmac 02-19-2018 01:20 PM

Big, tough players aren’t difficult to get. Even a middleweight or two is sufficient.

Would much rather an elite defender and some picks than a bottom 3 defender and better picks.

dbaz 02-19-2018 03:38 PM

player whos good in locker room, will fight for the team, a waste cap of so benning cant spend on others, be gone by the time we are competing + a 1st and solid prospect > horribly broken elite defender who cant play half a season by the time they are able to compete, +4th round pick

highfive 02-19-2018 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Jmac (Post 8889046)
Big, tough players aren’t difficult to get. Even a middleweight or two is sufficient.

Would much rather an elite defender and some picks than a bottom 3 defender and better picks.

Big + tough players aren't difficult to get, but big + tough players who can play is. Question is Gudbranson the guy? Can he be that shut down guy?

I'm in for trading Tanev, I feel this injury thing is going to get him down the road. Next salo.

Might as well get something if it's a big return.


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