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Old 07-07-2017, 05:37 PM   #51
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Half the supercars have N signs and are probably driven by "students" with 0 income, so I dunno how effective that would be
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Half the supercars have N signs and are probably driven by "students" with 0 income, so I dunno how effective that would be
Just like ICBC wont allow you to renew your driver license if you cant pay the driver penalty points annually, they can seize your car until you make a payment. Or if the car is owned by the parent, then parents on the hook for your penalty.
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Based on wealth doesn't solve the real problems (as mentioned above, many have zero income and would be assessed the minimum, anyways).

Lack of education, lack of training requirements, lack of safety/maintenance requirements, posted speed limits and what the speed limits should be don't always match, lazy enforcement, penalties for extremely dangerous driving not severe enough while penalties for minor offences too severe in some cases.
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Nice, 2 month impound and 16month ban. So what happens now if he gets caught driving while banned? That'd the real question
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You know, especially with these cases where excessive speed is involved, I really wonder if driving bans work. If the driver didn't particularly care about maintaining a sensible speed on public roads, is he really going to care too much about whether he is allowed (by the law) to drive or not?
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does he go to jail if caught driving while banned? if not, it will not stop him from driving
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Typical consequences of driving without a license is 60 day impoundment of the vehicle, plus any associated fines and tickets.

Since they are making an example of this kid, I wouldn't be surprised by a yearly suspension. I don't believe any jail time would be involved unless he did something really stupid.
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does he go to jail if caught driving while banned? if not, it will not stop him from driving
I looked up a while before since a buddy of mine with his Mustang lost his license...

First time you get caught driving with a suspended license, your car gets impounded for a while(2 weeks, I think), and you go to the court. On very unlikely cases you can go to jail for 6 months, but most walk out fine.

Second time and beyond will GUARANTEE jail time.
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Aha! Now I see what he was referring to.

Thank you for clarifying for me.

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what dragon88 meant is that post impound, the ferrari driver will swap cars with a friend (during his suspension period) because his own ferrari will be flagged in the police database as having a possible suspended driver. this means the ferrari will have a higher chance of getting pulled over when the plates gets scanned even if at the time the driver did nothing wrong, just so the police can confirm the driver is not the suspended person driving it, which in this case is his friend driving it with a legit license, and the ferrari driver will be driving his friends car which is less likely to get pulled over.
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They should implement a separate penalty category for cars over 150k. Kinda like ICBC insurance doesnt cover cars worth more than 150k, they should also ding exotic drivers substantially more. That or implement a penalty based on wealth like that of Finnland

A $60,000 speeding ticket!
Fuck that socialist bull shit system

A F150 doing ~100 over the limit is just as dangerous as a Lambo doing 100 over the limit. Price of the car is completely irrelevant. You can't blame a car for somebody diving like an idiot.

Last thing we need to see is tickets based on MSRP because a bunch of butt-hurts don't understand that sometimes people buy more expensive cars because it is something they are passionate about.

Ditto on income based tickets.... you are going to fine somebody more money because they have a full time job? Really? If anything we should be fining people who don't have a full time job more for NOT contributing to society.... fuck those mooching assholes.

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income-based tickets won't work here because the L's and N's that drive supercars here would probably claim no income and that they're "students"

imo supercars should be age/experience restricted and/or license-claused

No 10 year driving experience? No supercar for you.
At the very least, absolutely no supercars for L/N drivers.
Do away with the horse shit experience in China counting for something towards licensing here. You don't have 3 years of Class 5 driving experience in BC? No supercar for you.
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Fuck that socialist bull shit system

A F150 doing ~100 over the limit is just as dangerous as a Lambo doing 100 over the limit.
I think the F150 would be a lot more dangerous because the Lambo is designed for speed and the F150 is designed for towing and going off road.
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income-based tickets won't work here because the L's and N's that drive supercars here would probably claim no income and that they're "students"

imo supercars should be age/experience restricted and/or license-claused

No 10 year driving experience? No supercar for you.
At the very least, absolutely no supercars for L/N drivers.
Do away with the horse shit experience in China counting for something towards licensing here. You don't have 3 years of Class 5 driving experience in BC? No supercar for you.

You would have numerous exotic car dealerships' managers voicing their displeasure at an age/experience restriction for buyers of their fine automobiles.

We live a society with a free market economy. If you or your parents have the money, and the dealership has that a Lambo, Porsche, Bugatti, McLaren, etc. then you can buy it.

What about using a name and shame strategy as a deterrent? Put the mainlander's name in every Chinese newspaper and/or mainstream paper like the Vancouver Sun.

These d-bags won't be able to save face if the picture of the kid and their names are in the newspapers and on news websites. A "shitty driver" of the day section.
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imo supercars should be age/experience restricted and/or license-claused

No 10 year driving experience? No supercar for you.
At the very least, absolutely no supercars for L/N drivers.
Do away with the horse shit experience in China counting for something towards licensing here. You don't have 3 years of Class 5 driving experience in BC? No supercar for you.
IMO, it shouldn't be limited to just supercars. High HP / torque cars should also fall into the same category. I dunno what a good cut off is, perhaps it could be HP/TQ base, or maybe hp-to-weight ratio?

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You would have numerous exotic car dealerships' managers voicing their displeasure at an age/experience restriction for buyers of their fine automobiles.
Just like how the housing-related industry is already crying foul when the government tries to intervene, eh?
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If it were up to me, all L's and N's would be limited to driving base, stock Tercels til they get up to class 5.

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IMO, it shouldn't be limited to just supercars. High HP / torque cars should also fall into the same category. I dunno what a good cut off is, perhaps it could be HP/TQ base, or maybe hp-to-weight ratio?
Australia has a pretty good system, maybe we should copy it. Ideally we'd copy Finlands licensing system but the population here is too spread out.
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income-based tickets won't work here because the L's and N's that drive supercars here would probably claim no income and that they're "students"

imo supercars should be age/experience restricted and/or license-claused

No 10 year driving experience? No supercar for you.
At the very least, absolutely no supercars for L/N drivers.
Do away with the horse shit experience in China counting for something towards licensing here. You don't have 3 years of Class 5 driving experience in BC? No supercar for you.
How would ICBC define a "Supercar"?
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I don't think a lot of things said here can work. I mean, how many people read newspapers in this day and age?

There are people who worked hard to buy a super car. You can't just say every super car driver is a douche.

The problem with counting the experience in China towards your license is the fact that some of them are counterfeit.

The only thing that can work is the Australian system where you can't buy certain cars if you don't have a full license yet. Driving a Tercel? Screw that. It's fugly. I am fine with driving an old car that's not fugly, as long as it has AC and a MT.
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i can't find anything on google, but CKNW radio reported just now that west van police caught another speeder this morning at 4am going over the lions gate bridge doing 130km/h.... in a smart car?
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