Port Mann and Golden Ears Bridge Tolls To End September 1st

[Hondaracer]

Originally Posted by hotjoint

Took port mann today, make it to work in 20 mins from surrey to new west. Cut my commute in 1/2

So let's say that's average.. some days an hour some days less.

You were willing to save $3 a day and spend an hour longer in your car prior to today?...

[thumper]

Originally Posted by meme405

I wonder how this is going to affect the other side, at the second narrows.

Ever since the new port mann opened up with it's larger capacity my commute over the second narrows has become hell in the afternoon, since all the traffic flows so freely all the way until the bottle neck at the Cassiar.

i'm looking at google traffic maps and it's bleeding red northbound starting from willingdon all the way to keith rd... and it's only just past 1:30pm. wtf.

[meme405]

Originally Posted by thumper

i'm looking at google traffic maps and it's bleeding red northbound starting from willingdon all the way to keith rd... and it's only just past 1:30pm. wtf.

Yep. It's a fucking gong show. Which is why I hate the new port mann so much and I was happy letting those who benefit from it pay for it.

Because the bridge made my life distinctly worse when it opened.

That's what people don't understand, it took the bottle neck away at the port mann and moved it down to the cassiar. So what used to be a clear 25 minutes commute for me, now ranges from 40 minutes - 1.5+hours. And the 1.5+ hour commutes are not some rare occasion. Atleast once a week or 3 times a month it will happen. Even saturdays and sundays the bridge is fucked.

Honestly I'd be happy to see them strip the gear from the Port Mann, and install it onto the second narrows. I'd rather pay 3 bucks per trip and have the bridge be clear, than deal with the nightmare it is now. Can't afford it? Go live in surrey and langley with all the other cheap cunts.

[twitchyzero]

north shore traffic is absolutely balls and I was relieved when I no longer have to cross 2nd narrows eastbound in the afternoons. I don't foresee it ever improving in the future

Originally Posted by Hondaracer

So let's say that's average.. some days an hour some days less.

You were willing to save $3 a day and spend an hour longer in your car prior to today?...

I only work in Surrey once a week
for me from east van it's $6 to save 10 minutes each week...nah I probably end up wasting the time saved on RS

for the m-f commuter it's $150/mo...some people don't make as much money per hour as the time saved...so yeah it can work out to their benefit to crawl in traffic

[snowball]

Originally Posted by meme405

I wonder how this is going to affect the other side, at the second narrows.

Ever since the new port mann opened up with it's larger capacity my commute over the second narrows has become hell in the afternoon, since all the traffic flows so freely all the way until the bottle neck at the Cassiar.

I doubt it will be too affected, the people traveling from Surrey to North Shore haven't been taking transit anyway. Most likely they've always been driving (either Port Mann or Patullo) because no one wants to take transit to the North shore, transit is TERRIBLE getting over there, I can't even imagine taking transit to the North Shore from Vancouver, let alone Surrey.

Or at least I hope it won't be too affected, I cross the bridge twice a day.

[Hondaracer]

Originally Posted by twitchyzero

north shore traffic is absolutely balls and I was relieved when I no longer have to cross 2nd narrows eastbound in the afternoons. I don't foresee it ever improving in the future



I only work in Surrey once a week
for me from east van it's $6 to save 10 minutes each week...nah I probably end up wasting the time saved on RS

for the m-f commuter it's $150/mo...some people don't make as much money per hour as the time saved...so yeah it can work out to their benefit to crawl in traffic

i live in east van and started working at 104th and king George 3 months ago, i could easilly have taken brunette and the patullo to get to work every day. This is ALMOST the ideal commute for somone who wanted to avoid the toll and take patullo (ideal is probably new west heading south)

I tried that once, and the commute home took an additional 45 minutes. Took me one trip to realize it wasnt worth it.

Originally Posted by meme405

Yep. It's a fucking gong show. Which is why I hate the new port mann so much and I was happy letting those who benefit from it pay for it.

Because the bridge made my life distinctly worse when it opened.

That's what people don't understand, it took the bottle neck away at the port mann and moved it down to the cassiar. So what used to be a clear 25 minutes commute for me, now ranges from 40 minutes - 1.5+hours. And the 1.5+ hour commutes are not some rare occasion. Atleast once a week or 3 times a month it will happen. Even saturdays and sundays the bridge is fucked.

Honestly I'd be happy to see them strip the gear from the Port Mann, and install it onto the second narrows. I'd rather pay 3 bucks per trip and have the bridge be clear, than deal with the nightmare it is now. Can't afford it? Go live in surrey and langley with all the other cheap cunts.

The amount of people who travel across the port mann and onto the North shore is probably minuscule compared to the amount of people heading to Burnaby, Richmond, and Downtown.

My parents live in Fraser Heights, basically as close as you can get to the Port Mann on the East side. For most of his life my dad had to commute to Granville and Georgia, with the old Port man it was a regular occurrence to spend 2 hours a day commuting. Now with the new bridge/highway, it's consistently under an hour 15 minutes, lots of time less.

The North Shore has always been retarded, it's not just the bottle neck at the iron workers

[GS8]

I listen to News 1130 a lot and Cassiar through the Ironwworkers is always a mental fuck wad according to them. Saturday's, too are always 100% a disaster and that's BEFORE the inevitable mid-span crash.

What a geographical time to be alive

[mb_]

I worked in North Shore for a year (I live in Surrey). Most of the shit show always happened due to Cassiar Tunnel or Iron Workers incidents. Man what a terrible commute that was.

[underscore]

Originally Posted by Hondaracer

So let's say that's average.. some days an hour some days less.

You were willing to save $3 a day and spend an hour longer in your car prior to today?...

Wasn't GE $4.45 each way?

Originally Posted by thumper

i'm looking at google traffic maps and it's bleeding red northbound starting from willingdon all the way to keith rd... and it's only just past 1:30pm. wtf.

Friday of a long weekend though.

[meme405]

Originally Posted by snowball

I doubt it will be too affected, the people traveling from Surrey to North Shore haven't been taking transit anyway. Most likely they've always been driving (either Port Mann or Patullo) because no one wants to take transit to the North shore, transit is TERRIBLE getting over there, I can't even imagine taking transit to the North Shore from Vancouver, let alone Surrey.

Or at least I hope it won't be too affected, I cross the bridge twice a day.

I don't know how long you've been driving the route, but I've been driving it for ~10 years now, and I definitely remember a time before the hwy 1 improvements when the traffic bottle neck was NOT the cassiar/ironworkers. Only time there was a backup on the route was when there was an issue on the bridge or in the tunnel.

The issue now isn't so much the new port mann bridge itself, but the improved hwy stretch through the burnaby lakes area then it bottle necks right the fuck down at grandview, then again into the cassiar, then again where mcgill merges. It's a clusterfuck.

While I'm making this a bitch fest about traffic, I'm pissed off about the lions gate as well. 10 years ago it was unthinkable to widen the causeway 10 feet for an additional lane of traffic, so that it would be a 4 lane bridge. But when it's widening the sidewalks to add 5' of bike lane on either side all of a sudden it's a huge "fuck it, lets pave the bitch". Fucking hell people are dumb. And then adding those ridiculous guards on either side, making the route look all ghetto. Fucking christ moonbeam is an idiot. Can't believe we paid 6 million dollars to make the causeway look retarded.

[snowball]

I've also been doing it ~10 years now. There was a period around 2013 that the cut eastbound got really bad until they finished the highway and then it eased off a bit. Then it started to get really bad again a couple of years ago. I think it's coinciding more with the housing market growth than it is the highway improvement.

I've also heard that since the highway was completed and they added the 3rd lanes to the tunnel, that people are taking the lions gate to get to the upper levels and back across the second narrows just to avoid the traffic in Vancouver.

[!LittleDragon]

I've also been doing it for 10 years. Traveling from the Killarney area over to Seaspan. What used to be a 30 minute commute both ways is now an hour.

An hour commute home used to happen maybe once a month but now it's daily. I don't even go that far along the hwy, from Westview to McGill. I don't know where all this traffic came from, I don't believe there are THAT many jobs on the North Shore. At 1300 employees, Seaspan is probably the biggest employer there but all the labourers are off at 2:30.

Best thing I've done was change my hours to 10am-6pm. Bridge traffic at 9:45 is slow but still flows. Traffic is still bad at 6PM but I work out at the company gym until 7:30. Traffic is dead at that time.

[twitchyzero]

Originally Posted by snowball

Then it started to get really bad again a couple of years ago. I think it's coinciding more with the housing market growth than it is the highway improvement.

yep I think it's all the condos

not sure why Cassiar westbound's 3rd lane is still exit only

[fliptuner]

When I was commuting from Poco to Seaspan, 5 years ago, it was 30 mins there, 40-45 home. I tried to avoid starting between 7-10 and getting off between 3-6.

Did a few projects on the Northshore last year and man, is the traffic gross now.

[MG1]

It's easy to say the cause is this and that, but it could be due to something else, like construction after one of the off/on ramps.

I drive around the GVRD and see so many stupid things, like cars being allowed to park on streets where it doesn't look like they are going to be in the way, but are.

I was going to Chinatown along Venables heading west. One block before Clark, there's a car wanting to turn left - most likely wanting to go to Fujiya. If they had no stopping/parking two blocks before Clark Drive, traffic would move along so nicely. There are people turning left on Clark and that adds to the nightmare. This is just one of many problems. Do they not have people going around looking for ways to improve traffic flow?

Okay, that was a dumb statement. Moonbeam.... nuff said.

[mikemhg]

Definitely agreeing with people on the North Shore issue here.

I just moved jobs from working downtown to now Edgemont in NV, and JESUS CHRIST, I used to live in Lynn Valley (now Burnaby), and never remembered the traffic this bad.

I've even changed my hours from 9:30 - 5:30, still tons of traffic in the morning heading to North Vancouver, and school hasn't even started. It's common fair at this point even at 6:30 PM to have traffic backed up all the way to the Westview exit.

Don't get me started on Capilano as well, I hit the Steve Nash at the bottom of the hill there after work to avoid traffic, and I'll regularly sit for 20-25 mins just to take a left on Marine, literally 600M away.

It's insane to me, why isn't there a plan? This should be a huge hot button issue, we need drastic change to address this traffic issue in this city, and I see city counsel doing absolutely nothing about it. People better vote these clowns out in 2018, I foresee traffic being a major political topic.

[westopher]

I live in north van and work downtown. It's 20 minutes by bus every day. You have to live and work along a transit line or you are fucked. It's working for me and my wife who has a similar path right now though. There's no way I could work anywhere other than downtown or gastown though without being fucked.

[fliptuner]

When I was working at the highschool in deep cove, I remember some of the teachers lived in Belcarra and kayaked to work.

[Lomac]

For the record, Highway 1 traffic is still better than in the past. I used to commute from South Langley to Capilano University in the early 00's and that was consistently between a 1.5 and 2 hour commute, one way. At least now it's been cut virtually in half, provided there's no accidents.

[snowball]

^ true that, most of the highway is pretty good these days, I remember driving on it before they added the HOV lane, and before they added the 4th lane, what a nightmare

Originally Posted by twitchyzero

not sure why Cassiar westbound's 3rd lane is still exit only

They tried having it as a regular lane until the end of the tunnel when they first put it in but people were merging super late and the trucks couldn't get off at the McGill exit causing a giant jam all the way through the tunnel.

[RRxtar]

Why dont you guys just all make more money and live closer to work.

[Hondaracer]

If they took out that dedicated McGill off ramp through the tunnel you might as well shut down the whole McGill off ramp going west. It would be useless without thay dedicated lane.

[westopher]

Originally Posted by RRxtar

Why dont you guys just all make more money and live closer to work.

Because goddamn NDP took our land and money and gave it to the crack smoking wefares!!

[dark0821]

so... road pricing... lol....coming Spring 2018... I can just see it....

[GS8]

Originally Posted by RRxtar

Why dont you guys just all make more money and live closer to work.

That's what I did.

Now I'm getting out of the stank hole called Richmond and back to Coquitlam within walking distance to the Evergreen Line. 10 min to work now!