4h? :ahwow:

are you on it when there's masses going to musical festivals/crankworx?

just leave a little earlier in the morning?

Has anyone else noticed that the Port Mann is getting a lot busier since the tolls ended. Was there really that many cheap assholes choosing to drive over the Patullo?

It's crazy!


Leaving around 10am on a mid-weekday morning is usually the best option. But there are times where my hands are tied and I have to get back. The May long weekend was one of the times. The sunday of Crankworx was the second, and the third time was this past weekend. Consider that I'm heading east to Langley too, which adds a good 30-45 minutes compared to those in Vancouver. The backups happen when two lanes go into one. Also the light at Brittania doesn't help.

That said, I must have done that drive 20 times this season without issue. It's simply an issue with too much volume.

It isn't just cheapa$$es who have been using the Patullo, but have now switched back to the Port Mann. I would also expect a bunch of new, extra people who weren't previously making the trips (or were taking fewer trips) across the Fraser River in the past, but are now doing so because the crossing is "free". Between something that's "free" and something with a nominal charge, people will alter their behaviour quite drastically.

(Incidentally, this is why tolling all crossings nominally is such a good traffic control & reduction measure.)

The worst part is the container/trailer traffic ^

We haven't seen the worst of it yet, by mid-October we'll probably see way more container traffic along highway 1

I'm beginning to see the wisdom of setting tolls at a particular level to manage or discourage car traffic. Just high enough to deter people from driving and to take transit. Before, I was like lower the damn toll so you get more users ... but that is not the most environmentally friendly result ... which is why I think Greens thought NDP's removing of tolls was 'reckless'.

i leave my house in coquitlam at 6:20am every morning...what i don't get is why all of a sudden are the roads busier at that time?

can't say it's kids...who's taking their kid to school that early?

I have a buddy to leaves Langley at 7am if not a little earlier to get to N.Burnaby by 9am.. But there is also those who are driving to college and university. Im just happy the weather is still decent so I can ride to work and beat traffic. If I were to commute by car it would be a minimum of 45mins commute. By motorcycle at most i'm 20mins from BCIT area to Coquitlam Center.

i used the port mann last night and the toll readers are still setting off my radar detector. i wonder if they are using them to count traffic numbers or something nefarious...

It's normal this time of year when everyone is back from holidays and with school starting, give it until Oct and it will die down a little bit.

really it's about a 5 mins slow down at this point.

fortunately i commute with my wife so we get HOV on the Barnet and Hastings.

For those of you who want to know more about road usage schemes, across the border the state of washington is doing a pilot project towards introducing road usage once they eliminate their gas tax, and they have a website set up here:

https://waroadusagecharge.org/

Drive from east van to Whalley every morning for work, from June to Sept it was 100% clear every day, not one slow down, not one accident in that span

Since the tolls have been removed it's added +-15 minutes, and there have been 3 accidents since..

#BringBackTheTolls

How's that lack of tolls working out for everyone?

Does this maybe prove that the cheap fucks who were skirting the tolls are statistically shittier drivers? Or perhaps drive cars that are in disrepair or balding tires or just plain crap?

I mean obviously more traffic increases the risk of an accident, but there has to be some sort of coincidence that there were almost no accidents before, and now theres a significant accident every other day.

I have friends in Coquitlam, but otherwise don’t really need to go over the port Mann. Maybe if I was going east on highway 1 from Richmond, I could either go hwy 17 or through Langley and skip the toll, or go through new west and pay. So I always just avoided it. Been over a few times since and the extra traffic is very easily noticeable

The news says that it was a HUGE clusterfuck going westbound this morning, with some 19 cars being involved in a crash. Was anyone in RS affected by this / got stuck today?

All these valley trucks need blind spot assist :troll:

I was in that shit show. It usually takes me 20-25 mins to get to Port Moody from Surrey (20km). Took me almost an hour and a half to get to work.

I expected more traffic since they removed the tolls but it's the accidents that keep fucking shit up and there have been way more since they took the tolls out. I blame the cheap fucks who went out of their way to avoid the toll since I never had a problem with accidents on my commute before.

Shxt that's ridiculous... Even if your boss is understanding of the situation, it's still bad to show up at work being more than an hour late.

Every day is brutal.. every single day westbound is like it used to be before the new Portman/HWY1 project.

Fucking cheapskates, hope spending that extra hour + in your car everyday was worth the $6

There's nothing right with the god damn Port Mann. First tolls fucked up Patullo bridge traffic, then the icebombs, then removing the tolls and accidents sky rocket. It's like a curse.

i can only imagine the shitshow it will be when the first snowfall arrives

As an aside: Why was the old Port Mann not re-purposed into a bike/walk path, tourist site, bridge yoga site, etc.?

Yep... this is the second time I've been late due to godamn accidents since they took the tolls out, excluding the snow shit storm.

Because it was a death trap.

first day of moderate rain and shit hits the fan

typical vancouver drivers :lol