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Old 10-15-2017, 05:03 PM   #201
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It just seems crazy to me. I mean, people are moving out to Langley, Abbotsford, Mission, and Chilliwack because of real estate prices. Many of them still head into greater Vancouver for work or WHO.
The past few years and definitely years to come have seen a serious increase in traffic because of this.
And this is the stunt they pull?
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Where's the promise to deal with real estate? Shadow flipping? First time home buyer loan?

You can't keep on expanding infrastructure, look at LA. Their highways are 6-8 lanes wide and there's still so much congestion.
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Removing tolls, increasing congestion to the port Mann. Then cancelling the widening of hwy1 216 to 264 which would have alleviated a lot of the congestion.
I'm trying to think of a sensible explanation for these actions and I can't
Is this confirmed cancelled? I was under the impression that it was being "Reviewed" whatever that means. I didn't realize they came out and said it's dead, if they did that's garbage.
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I don't think it's been full on cancelled yet, but it's probably not a good sign when the transportation minister says "no promises".
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NDP is back tracking on their promise to allow Uber by the end of this year. Uber is gonna be under a review.

Another unfulfilled promise by the NDP. No Uber before end of year, despite NDP election promise - NEWS 1130


NDP is trying to deal for the traffic volume increase from their toll-less bridge decision by delaying UBER?
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Old 10-16-2017, 02:51 PM   #206
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^ thank the tools who voted them into power.

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While I support the idea of having private vehicles for hire, I don't necessarily support Uber. In particular, the more I learn about the company and its business practices, the less I support their implementation of the business concept.

In light of that, I don't actually think it is a bad idea to put Uber through an independent review first before the province commits to the program. We want to make sure we have some good rules in place before we actually set them free in the market.
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this isn't a surprise at all, the NDP is a fricken joke. I'm happy to see people are finally starting to notice that now.
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this isn't a surprise at all, the NDP is a fricken joke. I'm happy to see people are finally starting to notice that now.
Well, the province collectively decided that Crusty Clark was the bigger joke, and you can't really fault them for thinking that.

With JT's tax revsersal today, I am feeling extra disheartened about the quality of Canadian politics. Regardless of the level of government we are looking at, it seems like they are all a joke. It isn't even just a matter of one bad apple against another. It's like they are all frickin useless...

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People just got tired of Christy and for the most part were too dumb to look much deeper than "Anyone but Christy" Votes

I'm sure all the people who voted for the NDP with hopes of affordable housing and more money in their pockets are all living in nice new homes and going out for dinner on the regular wit all dat extra dough
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Well, the province collectively decided that Crusty Clark was the bigger joke, and you can't really fault them for thinking that.

With JT's tax revsersal today, I am feeling extra dishearted about the quality of Canadian politics. Regardless of the level of government that we are looking at, it seems like they are all a joke. It isn't even just a matter of one bad apple against another. It's like they are all frickin useless...
Technically Crusty Clark did win except the Green Party fucked everything up by siding with the NDP. I really wonder what they thing about it now since we haven't heard much from the Green Party since that happened.
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People just got tired of Christy and for the most part were too dumb to look much deeper than "Anyone but Christy" Votes

I'm sure all the people who voted for the NDP with hopes of affordable housing and more money in their pockets are all living in nice new homes and going out for dinner on the regular wit all dat extra dough
It's almost like the "Anyone but _______" voting strategy is a terrible idea. If you don't like someone that's fine, just make sure that the person you're replacing them with is actually an improvement.
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Why not give the NDP a chance.

Everything seems to be okay so far. I'm a big liberal fan boy, but it's good to mix it up once in awhile. If it doesn't pan out, the libs will be back in power, come next election.

let's see what the GreeNDP can do.
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It's been like 5 months and apparently if everyone doesn't own a house and have money coming out of their ass the NDP has failed. Get over it, they lost, and telling people how they voted wrong because it wasn't what you wanted just sounds like sour fuckin grapes.
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Vancouver needs a much superior skytrain/subway system.

Its the only way to stop excessive traffic. Look at HK and Tokyo, there is a reason why they dont have insane traffic.
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Vancouver needs a much superior skytrain/subway system.

Its the only way to stop excessive traffic. Look at HK and Tokyo, there is a reason why they dont have insane traffic.
HK and Tokyo is also immensely more dense than most North American cities not named Manhattan, NY.
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Vancouver needs a much superior skytrain/subway system.

Its the only way to stop excessive traffic. Look at HK and Tokyo, there is a reason why they dont have insane traffic.
As much as I agree with you about the skytrain, our traffic is nothing compared to anywhere in the states or even Toronto (I just got back from there)

Plus, the traffic in HK and Tokyo is also pretty damn bad
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nah, the answer is more bike lanes obviously
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It's been like 5 months and apparently if everyone doesn't own a house and have money coming out of their ass the NDP has failed. Get over it, they lost, and telling people how they voted wrong because it wasn't what you wanted just sounds like sour fuckin grapes.
I don't think people are pissed off that the Liberals lost. It's people who were naive and thought that the NDP would crash the market who are pissed off.

This election was all about voters south of the Fraser. The NDP finally came up with a game plan and it won them enough seats. Tolls and the protection of the taxi industry were the issues that won them the election.
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While I support the idea of having private vehicles for hire, I don't necessarily support Uber. In particular, the more I learn about the company and its business practices, the less I support their implementation of the business concept.

In light of that, I don't actually think it is a bad idea to put Uber through an independent review first before the province commits to the program. We want to make sure we have some good rules in place before we actually set them free in the market.
is the policy the government is looking at specific to uber or is it ride-sharing in general?
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is the policy the government is looking at specific to uber or is it ride-sharing in general?
From what I understand, it isn't meant to be Uber-specific. However, since Uber is currently the most eager and well known company looking to enter the market, I would not at all be surprised if a lot of policies turns out to be rather specific to Uber's business model.

With the nature of establishing new laws to a previously uncharted area, it is almost to be expected that there will be flaws in the early iterations of the laws and policies. Just as any of our current laws took many iterations to reach their current state, the private vehicle for hire laws will need time to evolve and address any initial shortcomings.

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In many ways, we are already fxxked.

Canada Line platforms can handle a maximum of 2 carts. It was designed in the lead up to the 2010 Winter Olympics. I seriously dunno WTF the designers and Gordie DUI Campbell were doing to approve on such a short-sighted design.


Our Skytrain platforms can accommodate a maximum of what... 6 carts? During morning & late afternoon rush hours when people are travelling to and from work, I can't even remember how many times I have missed more than 3 trains because they were already all packed by the time they arrived at the station. But hey, at least I can cut Skytrain some slack because they were designed in the early 80's when Vancouver was still a quiet little town.
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Judging by all the reactions here you would be thinking Uber was approved by the Liberals while they were in power (Toronto got Uber in 2014).

Get your head out of your asses, the Liberals only announced they would approve Uber when they knew there's a good chance they were going to lose this election.

NDP has been in power for less than half a year, give it time.

London, a top 3 metropolis in the world just announced they are cutting Uber due to some of their irresponsible criminal policies. I don't mind them taking their time to cut the right deal with Uber/Lyft.

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It's almost like the "Anyone but _______" voting strategy is a terrible idea. If you don't like someone that's fine, just make sure that the person you're replacing them with is actually an improvement.
This is the issue with the first past the post voting system. Creates a two party system where groups have to choose between voting for the party they want in power (who wont get any seats), and voting for the opposition of the party they definitely don't want to win.

Example: John wants to vote for the green party, but he knows they really don't stand a chance, but John also really hates The Liberals, so he figures if he votes conservative then atleast he can stop the libs from winning.

So John ends up voting for a party he doesn't care for, just to stop the party he hates.

Alas this happens over and over until you basically remain with only 2 political parties.

The system needs to be changed to a rating system, where you rate your choices from 1 to whatever. That would fundamentally change the political system here in canada.
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People just got tired of Christy and for the most part were too dumb to look much deeper than "Anyone but Christy" Votes
I don't think it was a lack of intelligence, but instead a lack of other options. Let's face it, we're a two party system. It's liberal or NDP in BC. A vote to the Greens is like a vote to the communist party, it's wasted.

We are a society that still has old white folk who have always sided with the liberals, and the working class who think the NDP is in their corner. You have LGBTQ hippies and beta males who love the Greens, but thankfully they're small in numbers.

We're not too far from the US when it comes to politics.
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I think there is a BC Provincial Election thread, let's come back to the Port Mann Bridge.

This morning going Eastbound, thank goodness I had another passenger and could use HOV. 2 Accidents at 7:15 am ... traffic going Westbound at that time was already getting quite busy. Seriously, I don't think I will use Hwy 1 unless I have 2 people in the car or you have one of those eCar decals.

Q: Do you think a paid for usage (by kms) system for an expressed lane/HOV would work here? Like the I-5 (edit: I-405) Seattle, Bellevue stretch. Would you pay to use an express lane? I think I would.

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