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..Gonna stop paying these bullshit taxes, go to school for free..
I wish I was able to go to school for free. Had to pay like everyone else and even took out student loans. The band I belong to only gets enough funding for 3 students per year (better than nothing, at least 3 get to go).
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I wish I was able to go to school for free. Had to pay like everyone else and even took out student loans. The band I belong to only gets enough funding for 3 students per year (better than nothing, at least 3 get to go).
Interesting fact.
Lucky that your band even had 3 people graduating high school to even attempt post secondary. I'm assuming not a remote reserve.
I saw an article regarding the Inuit in Iqaluit a couple years ago. If I remember correctly it was just stating how low the high school enrolment is these days. So much that they were very proud to have 5 kids graduating. This is in Iqaluit. The capital of Nunavut. A thriving metropolis compared to many places.
Lucky that your band even had 3 people graduating high school to even attempt post secondary. I'm assuming not a remote reserve.
I saw an article regarding the Inuit in Iqaluit a couple years ago. If I remember correctly it was just stating how low the high school enrolment is these days. So much that they were very proud to have 5 kids graduating. This is in Iqaluit. The capital of Nunavut. A thriving metropolis compared to many places.
Inqaluit population is 7,740 and not all are Inuit. So we don't know if 5 is good or bad.
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When you are accused of wrong think, the pitchforks come out. Sen. Lynn Beyak's position in question after latest remarks about First Nations
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Facing possible sanctions by her own caucus, and calls for her resignation by the mayor of Winnipeg, Sen. Lynn Beyak has responded to the backlash over her latest comments about First Nations people and residential schools.
The Conservative leader in the Senate, Larry Smith, is also now distancing himself from the Tory senator, and is taking steps to address her continued role in the caucus.
"The personal opinions expressed by Sen. Lynn Beyak do not reflect the positions of the Senate Conservative caucus. Accordingly, we have taken additional steps to address Sen. Beyak's ongoing role within our caucus," Smith said in a statement.
When asked for clarity on what exactly those promised next steps would be, Smith's office said it had no further comment at this time. A spokesperson for Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer said Smith's statement on the issue stands.
Mayor wants Senator Lynn Beyak to resign over 'incredibly ignorant' comments
Sen. Beyak says First Nations should give up status cards
Beyak, appointed by former prime minister Stephen Harper in 2013, has been a source of controversy after she made comments earlier this year defending aspects of the Indian residential school system.
In an open letter recently published on her Senate website, the northwestern Ontario senator said she now believes First Nations people should give up their Indigenous rights and become Canadian citizens.
(Indigenous people born in Canada are already citizens of this country.)
Beyak did not respond to an interview request from CBC News earlier this week. But in another open letter sent to the parliamentary press gallery Thursday, Beyak addressed CBC News by name in responding to a story about her latest comments.
"[The CBC reporter] forgot to mention an important paragraph where I clearly stated that victims of the residential schools should be compensated immediately. I continue to advocate for them often and wonder what is taking so long. As stated in my letter, the dollars are going to lawyers and red tape obstacles instead of the deserving individuals," she wrote.Of course the reporter forgot - didn't fit the narrative he was pushing.
"What we have been doing is obviously not working, spending billions of dollars annually, yet filthy water and inadequate housing [are] still a reality on too many reserves," Beyak wrote.
Senator meets with Sioux Lookout reconciliation committee
The Indian Residential Schools Settlement Agreement (IRSSA), a deal reached by the former Harper government with some 80,000 Indigenous people who attended the schools, did provide financial compensation for the pain and suffering the system inflicted on many of its pupils. The financial payout was accompanied by a landmark apology by Harper in the House of Commons.
As of September 2017, more than $3.1 billion has been paid to former students.
According to the Indian Residential Schools Adjudication Secretariat, 98 per cent of all claims have been resolved. "We continue to work diligently to find a fair resolution to the rest," James Fitz-Morris, a spokesperson for the minister, said Thursday.
Conservative Senate Leader Larry Smith said Beyak's "personal opinions" on Indigenous issues do not reflect the positions of the Conservative Senate caucus. (Graham Hughes/Canadian Press)
Smith's newly appointed chief of staff, Stephen Kelly, worked with the late Jim Prentice when he was the minister of Aboriginal affairs in the Harper era. Kelly served as a senior policy adviser and followed Prentice to Industry and Environment Canada when he was subsequently shuffled in cabinet.
Prentice, who died in a plane crash in 2016, was active on the residential school file while in office, and signed off on the final compensation agreement with survivors.
Prentice worked as a constitutional adviser in South Africa at the end of apartheid and also championed the creation of the Truth and Reconciliation Commission (TRC), which would go on to conduct an exhaustive six-year study of the residential school system and its lasting impact on Indigenous communities.
Beyak has said the TRC did not "shed any new light" on Indigenous issues.
As of Thursday afternoon, Beyak was still listed as a Conservative senator on the Senate's website. Smith could yet strip Beyak of all her Senate committee duties — she is a member of the Senate's defence, agriculture and transport committees — or remove her from the caucus outright.
Former interim Conservative leader Rona Ambrose had already removed Beyak from the Senate's Aboriginal Peoples committee after she doubled down on her rosy depiction of residential schools and lamented the TRC did not "focus on the good."
'Small number' found residential schools bad: Beyak
In revisiting her previous remarks this week, Beyak said she stood by her claim that history has been far too unkind to the residential school system.
"A small number of Aboriginals found the schools bad," she wrote. "Only one in three Indigenous children ever attended them. Very few were torn from their parents' arms, but rather were enrolled by loving parents who were away trapping and trading for months on end."
Thousands are believed to have died at the schools, and thousands of others reported physical and sexual abuse.
Beyak has also expressed frustration with the current state of Indigenous relations, calling on First Nations people to drop long-standing grievances and integrate into the larger Canadian society.
Sioux Lookout Beyak meeting 1
Sen. Lynn Beyak met with community leaders in Sioux Lookout, Ont., on July 11 to discuss issues surrounding truth and reconciliation. (Supplied by Darlene Angeconeb)
"Trade your status card for a Canadian citizenship, with a fair and negotiated payout to each Indigenous man, woman and child in Canada, to settle all the outstanding land claims and treaties, and move forward together just like the leaders already do in Ottawa," she said.
Senator's comments defended by Tories, rebuked by others
Beyak says she doesn't need more education on residential schools
Beyak: Put 'focus on the good' done by residential school system
"None of us are leaving, so let's stop the guilt and blame and find a way to live together and share," she wrote. "All Canadians are then free to preserve their cultures in their own communities, on their own time, with their own dime."
Sen. Lillian Dyck, the Liberal chair of the Aboriginal Peoples committee, said she is exasperated with Beyak's continued promotion of an antiquated view of Indigenous relations.
"The more I read her letter, the more upsetting it is," Dyck said in an interview. "She's in a very solid state of denial, and it's bordering on racism."
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Senator Lillian Dyck says Beyak's comments are bordering on racist. (Jason Warick) Fuck off with this bordering on - it's either racist or it isn't.
"Who the heck does she think she is telling First Nations people what to do? Telling us what is good for us — 'Trust me, I know' — that's absolutely the epitome of colonial thinking," said Dyck, who is a Cree from Gordon First Nation.
"This is how we got into this mess. She's using her Senate seat to voice opinions that are really off the wall. Should I go and tell her to give up her Canadian citizenship?"
Beyak's comments also prompted Mayor Brian Bowman of Winnipeg to call on the Tory senator to resign her seat in the Red Chamber. "A Canadian senator should know who Canadian citizens are," he tweeted Thursday with the hashtags "make it awkward" and "resign."
A Canadian Senator s/d know who Canadian Citizens are. #makeitawkward #resign https://t.co/vPTlem3DdD pic.twitter.com/ZMo1kOwIZt
— @Mayor_Bowman
Good god, just come up to the arctic and witness the debauchery. I wasn't a very racist person until I moved up here and witnessed things first hand. All they want are more and more handouts on top of everything they get. The amount of money the government spends up here on the communities is ludicrous...
Take this for example. Tomorrow I am flying to a very small community up north (200 people max) to do two full days of shuttling people from there to some lake an hour away so they can go on a "cultural hunt", means they're going to decimate the caribou population a little more than it already is. So the community is paying for a DHC-6 to go there and do two full days of flying. I don't know what my company charges per hour on the thing but it's between $1000-1500/hr. And probably be close to 7-8hrs of flight time per day. Who do you think is ultimately footing this bill? (cuz there ain't no work in that community).
I could go on and on... It's extremely infuriating.
Another shitty thing is that most of you guys only see and notice the bad apples. But that is everyone, white people in communities with a lot of black people only notice the shitty ones, and vice versa. I live in Fort McMurray and come across the same attitude towards natives up here. Even on my work team they would say the same thing, but they didn't realize that myself and our team leader are both Native. Now that they know they see it. I guess when we're not riding horseback and shooting our bows & arrows we kind of blend in.
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Regardless of the labels we might place on her, she has sparked the discussion on a long overdue and ignored debate. There is a long history of racism and abuse that seems to make its way into most discussions. That can't be ignored, but it can stall progress - look at the ongoing debacle that is the National Inquiry into Missing and Murdered Indigenous Women, as an example.
Long term, what is the best way to move forward together while keeping a culture from going extinct?
Integration.
Shit, worked for Brazil. Still lots of racism there (like, lots), but African culture, for example, is ingrained deeply in all layers of Brazilian society, even though we had slavery until 1888.
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Another shitty thing is that most of you guys only see and notice the bad apples. But that is everyone, white people in communities with a lot of black people only notice the shitty ones, and vice versa. I live in Fort McMurray and come across the same attitude towards natives up here. Even on my work team they would say the same thing, but they didn't realize that myself and our team leader are both Native. Now that they know they see it. I guess when we're not riding horseback and shooting our bows & arrows we kind of blend in.
Ain't it great when you are taken out of a sometimes predetermined destiny (I'm talking particularly about two remote reserves in northern MB, born here your destiny has already been made) and given a chance. Amazing isn't it. I hope this comment was not directed at me. It's the situation not the people.
All present immigrants and past settlers (3-4 generations at most) are simply cash cows (by way of exorbitant tax and inflation devaluing earnings) for the empire.
They are also very simple minded as the propaganda machine runs deep coupled by slave wage earnings that hit hard. Muh resources, muh tax dollars... a Native American uprising couldnt come quick enough.
Ain't it great when you are taken out of a sometimes predetermined destiny (I'm talking particularly about two remote reserves in northern MB, born here your destiny has already been made) and given a chance. Amazing isn't it. I hope this comment was not directed at me. It's the situation not the people.
And rightly so. I manage a furniture store in Smithers. 9 out of 10 natives that come in here are asking for a quote on furniture so the band can buy it for them. This is usually to replace the sofa the band bought them a couple years ago. They trash it because they don't care and will just get replacements free anyways.
When you get a Native that integrated they usually don't care for the res natives either. They are just as judgmental as everyone else. Last month I had a guy come in and purchase a bunch of furniture. He lives on one of the rez's up here. When I asked his address he told me then said "Look for the biggest house on the street with nicest yard." Then he laughed and said "Yea I'm one of those workin natives. There aren't many of us out there!"
This came from a native who lives on a Res and calls it like it is.
How can you ask them to integrate when they literally have no reason to leave the rez. They have stores where they don't pay tax, they get money from the government and free housing. They drive brand new cars and trucks into the ground due to lack of maintenance and lack of care and let their brand new houses rot because when they get to bad they just tear it down and build a new for them.
This isn't opinion, I see it on the regular here delivering to the local Bands.
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But your right, the whole population is not Inuk.
