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^ Sweet Jesus, I don't know where the hell you went to school, but pretty much everyone in my school me included were still lining up GI Joes and Transformers for battle at 13-14 years old, not teaching each other about sex and morning after pills
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^ Sweet Jesus, I don't know where the hell you went to school, but pretty much everyone in my school me included were still lining up GI Joes and Transformers for battle at 13-14 years old, not teaching each other about sex and morning after pills
With sex comes responsibility. Knowledge is power and informed girls make better choices. Especially young girls. You have no idea the amount of older guys 19+ who start sexual relationships with high school girls....... Convincing them easily condoms arent necessary or some bullshit like that.
I would be damned if one of my friends got pregnant/sick because they didnt know better. I knew better and I made sure to share what I knew with people I cared about to keep them safe & healthy. Like I said, some people mature faster than others.
I think you missed my point, why are so many kids at your school even having sex at that age... and maybe you should be teaching them about statutory rape if the guys are 19+ and having sex with them at under 16....... it’s not normal.
You obviously grew up in a very different era than I did, nobody got away with that shit while they lived with their parents growing up. I knew 1 single girl who got pregnant as a teenager in my entire high school of 650 students.
Knowledge is power, but also an enabler... I’m happy to have been blissfully ignorant back then and grow up as a kid playing sports and biking with friends rather than trying to figure out why my dick is burning or what to do if a condom broke, that’s for sure.
I think you missed my point, why are so many kids at your school even having sex at that age... and maybe you should be teaching them about statutory rape if the guys are 19+ and having sex with them at under 16....... it’s not normal.
You obviously grew up in a very different era than I did, nobody got away with that shit while they lived with their parents growing up. I knew 1 single girl who got pregnant as a teenager in my entire high school of 650 students.
In small town theirs not much to do. At least 4 girls in my high school got knocked up. One girl twice.
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Well, again seems like a different era, I don’t know how old you are but I’m 39 years old so we were more Stranger Things growing up and less so.... well... pornhub as you said.
No cell phones, no sexting, no social media and almost no internet...
I think you missed my point, why are so many kids at your school even having sex at that age... and maybe you should be teaching them about statutory rape if the guys are 19+ and having sex with them at under 16....... it’s not normal.
Why not? Hormones run amok in highschool. At the time, VancouverXchange, Xkube, Apt107, AsianAvenue were all popular ways to meet boys/girls to date. Kids have parties where there is booze, cigarettes, weed, ecstasy they shouldnt have.....inhibitions are lowered, people hook up. I know people who went to private school who started doing cocaine and selling/popping ecstasy in grade 9. Age of consent was raised to 16 y/o in 2008........prior to that it was 14 y/o if i remember correctly.
Life isn't a fantasy. Shit happens. Who am I to tell someone they cant have sex? Lol. People are free to make their own choices but if I can help a friend make a better more informed choice, why wouldnt i do that? Have you tried telling a rebellious teenager just on the cusp of establishing an individual identity to NOT do something? You can bet it would just push them into doing it faster.
What gets me is that other members of the school board were calling for WCB to inspect their working conditions because the stress of the whole situation was causing a toxic work place
How about instead of fucking complaining about every god damn thing and bringing it to the media DO YOUR FUCKING JOB and resolve these things internally
For fuck sakes man all everyone fucking does lately is whine whine whine ffs.. so sick of it
stop whining
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A girl I went to school with had a kid at 13, her kid had a kid at 12 ...
I can't wrap my head around these gender politics, personally, but I certainly don't think they have a place in elementary school. Maybe middle school or high school.
Okay, yah sounds like you had a really normal group of friends and acquaintances. Peace.
I'd say that can be pretty normal for the Lower Mainland in those times.
I've been on both sides of; being young and making poor decisions, responsible and adult. In my opinion, self exploration and being social is what being young is all about. In my experience, young girls just tend to like older guys. I was one of those 20 year olds that dated LGs. Not that I hung out at high schools or anything, it was through mutual friends, and they just appeared into our circle. I think it's because older guys just have more than dudes their age. Cars, their own place, the means to go out to on the town.
I've also have friends that didn't party, well,... their version of partying were lan parties, outdoors, sports, board games and studying.
It'd be wrong to generalize teenagers into just teenagers.
I’ve lost count how many times in the last few years I dreamed about moving somewhere remote where’s there’s no other people. I admire Floki in the Vikings tv show hahaha
It's so scary to have kids nowadays... even my nephew is 5 freaking years old and he had to wear orange to kindergarten the other day to identify with aborginal awareness... he has no idea of these things! He doesn't even realize anyone is different at all! Why is it being pushed onto them???
No electricity (although hon tre did recently receive a transmission line from rach gia).
Maybe three or four visitors a month. Just enough to keep the generator going, fuel for the boat, and stay fed. I'd be completely content with that.
Sorry for going way OT. But your comment tied in with something you said previously.
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i’m happy to have been blissfully ignorant back then and grow up as a kid playing sports and biking with friends rather than trying to figure out why my dick is burning or what to do if a condom broke, that’s for sure.
you didn't stay up to tune into Showcase as a child?
sex ed in public school started at grade 5/6 if I remember correctly, which I thought was a pretty appropriate age, if girls are still starting puberty around 10yo
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Well, again seems like a different era, I don’t know how old you are but I’m 39 years old so we were more Stranger Things growing up and less so.... well... pornhub as you said.
No cell phones, no sexting, no social media and almost no internet...
You and me are from the same era. Smaller the town the harder you party. Fewer things to do.
This is the type of music videos high school kids are watching. This dude is really popular with high school girls.
I believe if a public school wants to teach about being trans it should be something parents have the decision of having their kids join/not join similar to sex ed in early grades.
Don't think Delta counts as a small town but I remember my elementary school being a fucked up place, could buy weed, stolen hand guns, people stole cars and spray painted the school.
you didn't stay up to tune into Showcase as a child?
sex ed in public school started at grade 5/6 if I remember correctly, which I thought was a pretty appropriate age, if girls are still starting puberty around 10yo
I don't think they had showcase back then. Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't remember it.
YTV I remember tho. And super channel.
in regards to current politically correct television/entertainment, the fact that violence, sex, and drugs are so severely glamorized, yet it's seen as extremely offensive to merely criticize gender, race, or religion, I find ridiculous and almost backward.
Back in Degrassi only one chick had sex. Her name was Spike. And she got pregnant when the condom broke.
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Reminds me a lot of Jordan Peterson’s whole situation a couple years back and his position on gender pronouns
Hey, Peterson was just on the cover of national post today. I think it's crazy his views are seen as 'controversial'. Everything that I've ever heard him say seems completely logical to me.
Sign of the times, I suppose.
I think what bothers me most about this is the inability for any dialog.
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"While individuals are entitled to their opinions, Mr. Neufeld has jeopardized student safety, divided his school community and acted against board and ministry policies."
That, and the fact that a tiny fraction of a single percent of the population has the capacity to impose, without opposition, an entire curriculum on all k-12 students. 99.99% of the population must adjust for .01%. That is the figure of actual transgender, all ages, in Canada
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Teachers choosing to address SOGI in the curriculum is NOT about students developing a particular set of beliefs around sexual orientation and gender identity
I find this extremely difficult to believe. That at the impressionable age of six, this would not have any effect on the child's beliefs.
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Well I can say it's aimed at stupid people. The host is a film grad. She has zero teaching credentials. It's one thing for HER channel to be a cooking show but she's talking about deep rooted social and cultural norms that don't belong in a kid's head unless the kids themselves approach an adult with a question or problem. Kids being manipulated for the benefit of adults should be a crime against humanity.
Setting up a colourful background and spouting vague psuedo facts about the complex nature of gender and the psyche does not equal credible content. It's just some random twentysomething theater kid giving her openly entitled view on serious subject matter she has no business talking about. She can live her own life however she wants but to dictate it onto others without professional merit won't fly with me. Any parent out there who would use this person as a role model might as well be mentally castrated.
I find this extremely difficult to believe. That at the impressionable age of six, this would not have any effect on the child's beliefs.
I took a little look at this, skimmed through the topics and downloaded the lesson plan for gender identity. So far for me, I like it. It seems to be based on the values of acceptance and kindness. The lesson plan i dl'd about gender identity didnt seem too complex and it opens up a space for safe dialogue. I think kids today are more advanced than we give them credit for anyway. I only learned what a "streak" was on snapchat last December lol.
There are cultures where these topics are never talked about, religions where they crucify people for sexual orientation, races where being anything other than straight can put you and your family in danger..or even just dating someone who is a different race can cause upset with parents.
Damn, I went to Roman Catholic private school and kids arent allowed to be gay. One of my teachers in gr 7 even told us that we're better than public school kids... That we were of a higher caliber and we should pity kids in the public school system. My older brother went to an all boys Catholic high school and they werent nice to gay people either. Even at 12 years old, I must have had some moral compass differing from my family beliefs because I knew it was wrong.
So from my personal experiences, I think creating conversations that some kids cant have with their parents is okay. Let's face it, if a parent is a bigot/racist/homophobe/blind religious follower...100% the child learns to be the same way at home either thru verbal or nonverbal communication.
If we're exposing them to different types of family units as their own, teaching them slurs are not acceptable, bullying is not right.... Personally, i dont see a problem with it. I think its a step in the right direction as Ive seen what inner turmoil can do to a young mind. I cant imagine what it must be like to be young and already know that you're different from your parents and siblings. The fear of coming out, the fear of losing your family and their acceptance. It's so sad and nothing a child should ever have to suffer.
Would I be considered as far left in my beliefs? I dont know too much about politics admittedly.
Back in Degrassi only one chick had sex. Her name was Spike. And she got pregnant when the condom broke.
Lol that show was ridiculous, the one guy who did acid jumped off a bridge and turned into a retard, and the other guy who had unprotected sex got AIDS.
Lol that show was ridiculous, the one guy who did acid jumped off a bridge and turned into a retard, and the other guy who had unprotected sex got AIDS.
Exactly. The dangers of these subjects may have been exaggerated. But they were nonetheless expressed.
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Gold is the money of kings;
Silver is the money of gentlemen;
Barter is the money of peasants;
But debt is the money of slaves.
-Norm Franz
I took a little look at this, skimmed through the topics and downloaded the lesson plan for gender identity. So far for me, I like it. It seems to be based on the values of acceptance and kindness. The lesson plan i dl'd about gender identity didnt seem too complex and it opens up a space for safe dialogue. I think kids today are more advanced than we give them credit for anyway. I only learned what a "streak" was on snapchat last December lol.
There are cultures where these topics are never talked about, religions where they crucify people for sexual orientation, races where being anything other than straight can put you and your family in danger..or even just dating someone who is a different race can cause upset with parents.
Damn, I went to Roman Catholic private school and kids arent allowed to be gay. One of my teachers in gr 7 even told us that we're better than public school kids... That we were of a higher caliber and we should pity kids in the public school system. My older brother went to an all boys Catholic high school and they werent nice to gay people either. Even at 12 years old, I must have had some moral compass differing from my family beliefs because I knew it was wrong.
So from my personal experiences, I think creating conversations that some kids cant have with their parents is okay. Let's face it, if a parent is a bigot/racist/homophobe/blind religious follower...100% the child learns to be the same way at home either thru verbal or nonverbal communication.
If we're exposing them to different types of family units as their own, teaching them slurs are not acceptable, bullying is not right.... Personally, i dont see a problem with it. I think its a step in the right direction as Ive seen what inner turmoil can do to a young mind. I cant imagine what it must be like to be young and already know that you're different from your parents and siblings. The fear of coming out, the fear of losing your family and their acceptance. It's so sad and nothing a child should ever have to suffer.
Would I be considered as far left in my beliefs? I dont know too much about politics admittedly.
St. Pat's? Lol.
Interesting that the only person here to openly support the idea, is a woman. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad to see another perspective. But that is interesting. I think it's a lot different for men.
Men are also more likely to transition than women. Probably due to the fact that men and women both share the x chromosome, while women don't carry the y. Which is the biological difference between man and woman. I assume that's a big part of it anyways... Very different for men/father's.
I just don't think children need to learn these things at that age. And I think it's disturbing that if someone has that view, it can be shifted into them being opposed to the whole idea of transgender. It immediately becomes a black or white conversation.
And I'll be completely honest, as I try to be; I think as a society we're becoming too open to lgbt. The relationship between a man and woman is as natural as the gender you were born with. That's not to say that being gay or wanting/needing to be a gender other than what you were born with is wrong. But it is unnatural. Irregular. That is the truth. And if we can't say that without being labeled a bigot, than we're not being honest with each other. And that is political correctness running amuck.
PS. Not everything needs to be politicized.
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Silver is the money of gentlemen;
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We were referencing the original Degrassi. Drake was in the remake.
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