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The other day my friend revealed they're having a new baby. I joked saying that this time instead of doing Date of birth and gender for the baby pool we should only do DOB so we don't assume the child's gender. We should wait 5-7 years until the child tells us what they are.
Interesting that the only person here to openly support the idea, is a woman. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad to see another perspective. But that is interesting. I think it's a lot different for men.
Men are also more likely to transition than women. Probably due to the fact that men and women both share the x chromosome, while women don't carry the y. Which is the biological difference between man and woman. I assume that's a big part of it anyways... Very different for men/father's.
I just don't think children need to learn these things at that age. And I think it's disturbing that if someone has that view, it can be shifted into them being opposed to the whole idea of transgender. It immediately becomes a black or white conversation.
And I'll be completely honest, as I try to be; I think as a society we're becoming too open to lgbt. The relationship between a man and woman is as natural as the gender you were born with. That's not to say that being gay or wanting/needing to be a gender other than what you were born with is wrong. But it is unnatural. Irregular. That is the truth. And if we can't say that without being labeled a bigot, than we're not being honest with each other. And that is political correctness running amuck.
I guess over time, lines have become finer, and grey areas wider.
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Gold is the money of kings;
Silver is the money of gentlemen;
Barter is the money of peasants;
But debt is the money of slaves.
-Norm Franz
Haha welfare, close! St. Andrews! Everybody there usually goes to St Pats for hs but I ended up going to Eric Hamber then switched to John Oliver. I was the wild kid lmao. My bro went to Vancouver College for hs.
A great interview that I ran across some time ago with the wonderful Dr Thomas Sowell. Although 25 years ago and speaking of American education, I think many of the points made apply today and here. Some even more now.
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Gold is the money of kings;
Silver is the money of gentlemen;
Barter is the money of peasants;
But debt is the money of slaves.
-Norm Franz
^ Damn that discussion really heats up at the 27 minute mark with the graduate caller... and then the lady who calls in after her... the evolution of the issues presented in this interview 25 years ago has led to exactly the problems we now see today. It's truly incredible and fascinating.
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Gold is the money of kings;
Silver is the money of gentlemen;
Barter is the money of peasants;
But debt is the money of slaves.
-Norm Franz
^ Eh? Friedman’s economic policies were almost entirely based in John Maynard Keynes theories who was British born european, at what point is anything he says even remotely Zionist? If anything it’s quite the opposite.
? I was being serious, I watched the entire thing and looked up his books after, fascinating guy, can’t believe he’s still teaching at 87 years old.
Lol. My sincere apologies.
He just recently retired actually. But yes, at 87. Still sharp as a tack too.
I think he's written somewhere in the area of 40 books. Though many of them are collections of essays.
I don't need to tell you, the man is just an emporium of historical data.
Check out 'Black Rednecks and White Liberals'. I think you might enjoy that. Really interesting stuff
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Gold is the money of kings;
Silver is the money of gentlemen;
Barter is the money of peasants;
But debt is the money of slaves.
-Norm Franz
^ Eh? Friedman’s economic policies were almost entirely based in John Maynard Keynes theories who was British born european, at what point is anything he says even remotely Zionist? If anything it’s quite the opposite.
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Friedman was the opposite of Keynes, he was more of a free market capitalist. Regardless, I have the same question - how is Friedman Zionist?
How is he not as Zionist? is the question. Dont even look at his past, look at his policies... but I guess one would have to be worldly aware of how the New World Order works to begin with.
youtube.com/watch?v=9uVoktXVPNY
How is he not as Zionist? is the question. Dont even look at his past, look at his policies... but I guess one would have to be worldly aware of how the New World Order works to begin with.
youtube.com/watch?v=9uVoktXVPNY
Do you think Chileans, on average, were happier prior to Pinochet than they are today?
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Gold is the money of kings;
Silver is the money of gentlemen;
Barter is the money of peasants;
But debt is the money of slaves.
-Norm Franz
Thats like asking would you want a Canada that is occupied and is now paying 40-50 billion a year on debt interest or would you want a Canada that is constantly in surplus with yearly payouts to its citizens, free university, healthcare, no taxation what so ever, cheap gas, cheap quality food, free train and bus service, affordable housing. Canadians wouldnt even have to work because the amount of resources it exports every year covers all that many times over.
Thats like asking would you want a Canada that is occupied and is now paying 40-50 billion a year on debt interest or would you want a Canada that is constantly in surplus with yearly payouts to its citizens, free university, healthcare, no taxation what so ever, cheap gas, cheap quality food, free train and bus service, affordable housing. Canadians wouldnt even have to work because the amount of resources it exports every year covers all that many times over.
So if Canadians wouldn't have to work, do you suppose the country would just run itself?
Please explain to me how the concept of work applies in a collectivist society, where everything is 'free'.
Chile is ranked as a high-income economy by the World Bank,[15] and is considered one of South America's most stable and prosperous nations,[16] leading Latin American nations in competitiveness, income per capita, globalization, economic freedom, and low perception of corruption.[17] Although Chile has high economic inequality, as measured by the Gini index,[18] it is close to the regional mean.[19]
Compare that with the economy under Allende's presidency.
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Gold is the money of kings;
Silver is the money of gentlemen;
Barter is the money of peasants;
But debt is the money of slaves.
-Norm Franz
So if Canadians wouldn't have to work, do you suppose the country would just run itself?
Please explain to me how the concept of work applies in a collectivist society, where everything is 'free'.
Yes! There is enough resources to export that people could use their little government pay cheques every month to buy cheap processed food and not have to work... well at the same time have no money to do anything else.
Those that want to attain nice houses, cars, healthy children, good food, can work mining said resources and other needed jobs.
Yes! There is enough resources to export that people could use their little government pay cheques every month to buy cheap processed food and not have to work... well at the same time have no money to do anything else.
Those that want to attain nice houses, cars, healthy children, good food, can work mining said resources and other needed jobs.
So what if a large percentage of people decide that they're fine not having to work?
And where does funding come from to run free transportation, housing, education, etc..?
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Let me get this straight... you want me to compare Allendes 3 years of governance to Chile's occupation all this time to present economic levels?
I'm aware that's not really a fair comparison, but what other relatively recent president of that country imposed such egregious levels of socialism to compare to?
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Had Chile been a free country since then its city would compare to Miami and its scientific contribution to the world 50 times its current output.
Where do you contrive this hypothetical result from? Because the trend of nationalized resources and heavy government influence seemed to show otherwise.
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Gold is the money of kings;
Silver is the money of gentlemen;
Barter is the money of peasants;
But debt is the money of slaves.
-Norm Franz
So what if a large percentage of people decide that they're fine not having to work?
When their system becomes this stable, people with little to lots of money will funnel that energy into ventures of their own desire and perhaps start another renaissance.
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And where does funding come from to run free transportation, housing, education, etc..?
New zoning for micro houses, transpiration powered by our hydro dams... education is just made to look expensive to keep people in an underclass.
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I'm aware that's not really a fair comparison, but what other relatively recent president of that country imposed such egregious levels of socialism to compare to?
Do you also think the Canadian government actually changed when Truturd took over Harper?
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Where do you contrive this hypothetical result from? Because the trend of nationalized resources and heavy government influence seemed to show otherwise.
Iran.
The trends shows otherwise because most of the world is run by Anglo aristocrats, aka ZioAmerica. Even Norway with its so called nationalized oil.
When their system becomes this stable, people with little to lots of money will funnel that energy into ventures of their own desire and perhaps start another renaissance.
New zoning for micro houses, transpiration powered by our hydro dams... education is just made to look expensive to keep people in an underclass.
You still haven't explained where funding comes from.
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Do you also think the Canadian government actually changed when Truturd took over Harper?
For the worse, yes.
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Iran.
The trends shows otherwise because most of the world is run by Anglo aristocrats, aka ZioAmerica. Even Norway with its so called nationalized oil.
And yet you seem to have no issue with allowing a sovereign government to control everything.
You know as well as I do that it is inherent for human beings to control. The trait does not discriminate between ideologies.
Whether it's a government, the zionists, marxists, capitalists, whoever. The end result is always the same. A small group, to some extent, controlling the vast majority. That will always be inevitable, IMO
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Gold is the money of kings;
Silver is the money of gentlemen;
Barter is the money of peasants;
But debt is the money of slaves.
-Norm Franz
Colonialism had to be hidden for modern times... so all you see is a facade of a working government. Same with all Commonwealth countries, Nato, the US, and many other nations including Chile.
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And yet you seem to have no issue with allowing a sovereign government to control everything.
You know as well as I do that it is inherent for human beings to control. The trait does not discriminate between ideologies.
Whether it's a government, the zionists, marxists, capitalists, whoever. The end result is always the same. A small group, to some extent, controlling the vast majority. That will always be inevitable.
So find me flaws with the Islamic republic of Iran... the fastest growing intellectual country in the world... this after half the population (10 million dead) at the time was wiped out by Zionist in the early 1900's, a Zionist imposed 8 year war (with biological weapons used) and more then 3 decades of sanctions.
I'll admit I didn't read past the first post of that thread, but if you're insinuating that I'm unaware that the queen, ultimately, has the final say on our governments decisions, you're wrong. All you'd need to have done is stand in court once in your life to see that.
Why don't you ask the thousands of arrested protesters of the flaws of their non secular government? The ones who aren't being slaughtered or tortured as we speak.
The fastest growing intellectual country in the world. That imposes the death penalty to those who insult the prophet, commit adultery, display homosexual behavior or commit apostasy, to name a few.
Let's just get down to brass tax here, Charles. Do I believe that there is a small group of people who, ultimately, controls the world economy using whichever measures they see fit? I would say almost certainly. And the strongest evidence I find for that theory is the nature of the effects of power on human beings. And with that being evident, I also realize that there can be no such thing as true freedom. So I'm fine with the illusion of the free market. At least it pretends to be free.
Why don't you ask the thousands of arrested protesters of the flaws of their non secular government? The ones who aren't being slaughtered or tortured as we speak.
The fastest growing intellectual country in the world. That imposes the death penalty to those who insult the prophet, commit adultery, display homosexual behavior or commit apostasy, to name a few.
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Welfare remember when you were brainwashed about Isreal being a 700+ year old ruling power prior to the great world wars.. but still dont know the actual years after I challenged you about it?
Your statements here are not much different... they are fact-less and youve been brainwashed again with by western "news" and social media conditioning.
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