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02-16-2018, 11:47 AM
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#126 | | I have named my kids VIC and VLS
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RS is full of Canadians posting "Somthing must be done!!" every time this shit happens..
Guess what? no ones doing shit, no matter what you think should be done or can be done, no ones doing anything. The public isnt doing shit, politicians arent doing shit, fuck it.
The states can clean up their own shitty country.
USA creates some of the brightest minds on the planet, and a good chunk of the worst. Keep wasting time talking about how canadian laws would deter this type of thing from happening, it's apples and oranges.
Just because this kid wouldnt pass the test or meet the requirements to own this gun doesnt mean some other fucking retard wouldnt.
Fuck em.
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02-16-2018, 12:05 PM
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02-16-2018, 12:44 PM
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#128 | | HELP ME PLS!!!
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Originally Posted by welfare  that's not really an accurate comparison. there are laws against driving drunk that people don't follow. people are making broad statements tied to emotion like "tougher gun control" or "we need change" yet not actually explaining what gun laws or change could be imposed that would have prevented something like this.
nobody on either side of the argument wants something like this to happen. but without rational discussion/ideas you're not going to see results/change | Here in Canada, we have a regulation saying for a semi automatic rifle, a magazine cannot have more than 5 bullets in it. I could be wrong, it's been years since I took the test for licensing. There is a specific example of making it harder for something like this happening again.
Having a form when being licensed or buying, requiring the intended use of the weapon would also be useful. These people with delusions think what they are doing is right, so why would they lie about it. There is another specific example.
Asking for specific, actionable regulations is really reasonable IMO. Though, i really doubt it'll have much of an impact. lol. feels good though.
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02-16-2018, 01:05 PM
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#129 | | To me, there is the Internet and there is RS
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Guys we figured out why all these shootings are happening. it's video games. https://www.theverge.com/2018/2/16/1...nor-matt-bevin
Time to ban PUBG.
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02-16-2018, 01:08 PM
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#130 | | HELP ME PLS!!!
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02-16-2018, 01:31 PM
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#131 | | they call me the snowman
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Originally Posted by DragonChi Here in Canada, we have a regulation saying for a semi automatic rifle, a magazine cannot have more than 5 bullets in it. I could be wrong, it's been years since I took the test for licensing.
There is a specific example of making it harder for something like this happening again.
Having a form when being licensed or buying, requiring the intended use of the weapon would also be useful. These people with delusions think what they are doing is right, so why would they lie about it. There is another specific example. | You are correct in your quotes on the laws.
That said, a simple pop rivet isn't going to save lives. Anyone with a power drill can punch out a rivet and have up to 30 rounds. Prohibiting 25 round mags for a .22 rimfire rifle is another joke of a law. In fact, many of our Canadian gun laws are nothing more than knee jerk, feel good bullshit laws. They're based on the honor system and the hope that folks won't break the law. Guys I shoot with are better armed than the RCMP, and a couple of us have Kevlar vests. Are we psychos? Nope. We're just guys who like loud toys.
It's really not our laws that are keeping mass shootings from happening in Canada. It's our culture that is doing that. The fact that most of our country is somewhat educated helps, along with the progress we have made on improving mental health. They don't give a shit about mental health in America, nor is there much value placed on human life in many areas.
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02-16-2018, 01:34 PM
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#132 | | HELP ME PLS!!!
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It might not, but what if it did, even once. Can you say with 100% certainty that it would be counter productive?
I didn't think a 22 lr would do that much damage. Injure for sure, but kill, would be a stretch.
It was a .223 used... http://time.com/5160267/gun-used-flo...hooting-ar-15/
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02-16-2018, 02:08 PM
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#133 | | RS has made me the bitter person i am today!
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Originally Posted by welfare there's that rational discussion.. | You aren't looking for rational discussion. You're a shit poster, and a troll. You spend day in day out posting obscure right wing propaganda that support your esoteric views on a bloody Vancouver-based lifestyle website. What is the point exactly? What do you get out of this?
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02-16-2018, 03:20 PM
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#134 | | they call me the snowman
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Originally Posted by DragonChi | Back in the day the father of the notorious Bacon brothers was on police radar because of threats he made against a local school. Saying that he was going to go in there and shoot the place up. The police knew he was a threat, but he was banned from owning guns so nothing more was made of it. The officer who was on the case is an old buddy of mine and said that his bosses were delusional if they thought that the dad of the Bacons couldn't get his hands on a gun. That was scary, because it's right in our back yard.
I find it funny that we have to register a trailer, but not a rifle. I'm a gun nut, and if there was a solution to this problem, I would like to hear it. But registration has never saved a life.
This is what saves lives. Quote: A teen wrote about plans to shoot up his Washington high school. But his grandmother found his journal
A woman in Everett, Washington, was looking through her grandson's journal Monday night when she found something that would forever change her view of him.
"I'm preparing myself for the school shooting," he wrote, investigators said.
"I can't wait. My aim has gotten much more accurate ... I can't wait to walk into that class and blow all those f****** away."
The next morning, she called police. By that evening, authorities said, her grandson was in jail on attempted murder charges.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/15/us/gr...rnd/index.html | His grandmother made the call to police to warn them that he was planning something. Thankfully she had the wherewithal to recognize that little Timmy was off his rocker, and made the call that saved lives.
The police can't always be there to protect us. We, as a people, need to protect ourselves and each other.
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02-16-2018, 09:38 PM
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#135 | | RS has made me the bitter person i am today!
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Originally Posted by mikemhg You aren't looking for rational discussion. You're a shit poster, and a troll. You spend day in day out posting obscure right wing propaganda that support your esoteric views on a bloody Vancouver-based lifestyle website. What is the point exactly? What do you get out of this? | Probably because I think I'm right. Just like you. And everyone else 
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02-17-2018, 12:24 AM
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02-17-2018, 12:04 PM
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#137 | | OMGWTFBBQ is a common word I say everyday
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Oh another shooting…
How terrible…
sadly we all know nothing is going to change. There are actually a significant population in american that is anti gun, unfortunately they are not as passionate about this issue as their pro gun counterpart.
Nothing is going to change until legit money and effort flows in to the anti gun movement.
All Pro gun peeps are pro gun until a tragedy happen to someone close to them and they are powerless to do anything. Would you give up your deadly toys for your children? Would you?
Freedom to defend yourself and to have deadly toys is nice and all until your children goes to school one day and get shoot in the head while you and your self protection piece is blocks away.
There is literally no reason in modern days to owns guns other than 1) to hunt 2) for fun 3) to protect yourself against other guns. I would dare to say 90% of gun owners fall in category 2 under the pretence of category 3. When you can't give up your toys for the benefit of the greater good. There is something really wrong with the society.
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02-17-2018, 12:11 PM
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#138 | | I have named my kids VIC and VLS
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The attitude that anyone has to “give up” fire arms is what holds back progress. No one is ever going to have their guns taken away or wilingly turn guns in.
I saw an interesting idea come across twitter after the shooting, someone suggest people hold their kids back and don’t allow them to go to school until things changed. Easier said than done but interesting none the less.
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02-17-2018, 01:27 PM
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#139 | | I am Hook'd on RS
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Originally Posted by Hondaracer The attitude that anyone has to “give up” fire arms is what holds back progress. No one is ever going to have their guns taken away or wilingly turn guns in.
I saw an interesting idea come across twitter after the shooting, someone suggest people hold their kids back and don’t allow them to go to school until things changed. Easier said than done but interesting none the less. | It'll probably result in a better educated population
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02-17-2018, 01:57 PM
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#140 | | OMGWTFBBQ is a common word I say everyday
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Originally Posted by Hondaracer The attitude that anyone has to “give up” fire arms is what holds back progress. No one is ever going to have their guns taken away or wilingly turn guns in.
I saw an interesting idea come across twitter after the shooting, someone suggest people hold their kids back and don’t allow them to go to school until things changed. Easier said than done but interesting none the less. | it only works great for middle to upper class family who can afford daycare or some kind of live in guardian.
"Solution" like this will just result in a segregation of population in the educational system. This is no different than white folk holding back their kids from going to mix raced school until "the issue" is resolved.
I'm on the camp of take all the guns away. There is never going to be a smooth transition or a resolution that will make both sides happy, only one side can win as evident from all these argument. Allow certain type of guns to be register and grandfather into new law as collectibles and what not. Turn everything else in within a certain period. Its going to hurt for a little while than all this will be forgotten in history. Give a few year gun nuts will find something else to play with.
The Australian did it, look how many mass gun related murder they have since.
Unfortunately that is not going to happen, USA has the only legal and thriving gun industry. That is the ONLY reason why nothing has been done, its not for the protection of the second amendment its for profit only.
Dont pull the democracy and freedom card. Gun nuts wants the freedom to play with gun, Regular folk just want the freedom to sent their kids to school without their being kill. Which is the more important? It obvious it isn't about the protection of personal right. All its about is the protection of an influential industry at the expanse of regular folks
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02-17-2018, 02:12 PM
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If you try to take all the guns away only the law abiding citizens are gonna give it back so you're left with mostly criminals with guns.
Say you get all the registered guns back there are still a ton of illegally obtained firearms that are not on a database so same issue, all the criminals with guns and regular folks with none.
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02-17-2018, 03:34 PM
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#142 | | I contribute to threads in the offtopic forum
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Gonna say it again.
Stop selling guns like cigarettes and the chances of these shootings will be lowered.
Control over no control is a no brainer.
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02-17-2018, 03:44 PM
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#143 | | To me, there is the Internet and there is RS
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Originally Posted by birddog3k If you try to take all the guns away only the law abiding citizens are gonna give it back so you're left with mostly criminals with guns.
| Then put a minimum 20 year jail sentence for anyone in possession of a gun. You think small time criminals are going to risk going to jail for 20 years?
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02-17-2018, 04:02 PM
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Yes.
How do you enforce it? The only way is if you have police show up to your house looking for it but it's so easy to hide. Police don't have the capacity.
If you get caught commuting a crime with a weapon then you wouldn't have handed it over in the first place because you need the weapon to commit the crime - the risk of 20 years is worth whatever you could get commuting a crime.
It won't solve these mass weapons either because their ideology is stronger than their fear of going to jail, case in point this Florida guy - he didnd't even shoot himself like most of the others.
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02-17-2018, 04:13 PM
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#145 | | To me, there is the Internet and there is RS
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Originally Posted by birddog3k Yes.
How do you enforce it? The only way is if you have police show up to your house looking for it but it's so easy to hide. Police don't have the capacity.
If you get caught commuting a crime with a weapon then you wouldn't have handed it over in the first place because you need the weapon to commit the crime - the risk of 20 years is worth whatever you could get commuting a crime.
It won't solve these mass weapons either because their ideology is stronger than their fear of going to jail, case in point this Florida guy - he didnd't even shoot himself like most of the others. | If I guy is hiding a gun in is house who cares. He is not using it.
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02-17-2018, 04:27 PM
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Yeah. All I'm saying is that the ones commuting crimes with guns don't care about those laws.
Restricting guns won't prevent anything.
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02-17-2018, 04:42 PM
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There may be hope ... maybe. If these youths at the high school persist enough, maybe they will be the 'straw that breaks the camel's back' and tip the scale. Survivors of the Parkland school shooting speak out Video - ABC News | |
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02-17-2018, 04:44 PM
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Again, I think you guys vastly underestimate the gun culture in the states.
I guarantee you there are perfectly normal law abiding citizens that would rather shoot a cop trying to take his gun than hand them over willingly.
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02-17-2018, 05:15 PM
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#149 | | Rs has made me the woman i am today!
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Originally Posted by Hondaracer Again, I think you guys vastly underestimate the gun culture in the states.
I guarantee you there are perfectly normal law abiding citizens that would rather shoot a cop trying to take his gun than hand them over willingly. | Yeah, that sounds like something a normal person would do.
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02-17-2018, 05:23 PM
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#150 | | RS has made me the bitter person i am today!
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Originally Posted by MarkyMark Yeah, that sounds like something a normal person would do. | Normal or not, that's the reality.
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