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^ The areas you listed don’t exist... there is no 4 Road and Bridgeport, it’s an overpass... and 5 and Bridgeport is a Gas station and car wash and industrial zoned office warehouses. Every single property is a million dollar property now, this argument makes no sense. There’s several of these developments on Main St in Vancouver and that hasn’t stopped Main St from becoming the most “hipster” place on earth. T&T supermarket and a bunch of banks and Alexandra style food places is considered hipster by the oval? I don’t think so... |
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How is working for what you receive a Soviet concept? This country is forecast for (and are already seeing) a huge labor shortage. Can you explain how a "free" basic income will help to offset that? Because they seem completely at odds with each other to me. |
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We'll probably be seeing a lot more protests.. |
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Unless "hipster" and "fob" are interchangeable concepts to you, no part of Richmond is a "hipster" place. I'm guessing the reason for why they want the shelter to be there is the access to transit, social services, etc. No point giving housing to the homeless unless they can be near public transit to get to work.... isn't that the whole point of homeless shelters? Get people back on their feet? If their commute is next to impossible the project will surely fail. |
they should just rezone some of those industrial areas. They still have bus access just not as efficient as sky train. ahh whatever, i think all the Chinese are just scared the homeless gewilo will come and shit on their cars. |
"I get it and I get it but I also get what you're saying" I understand the concern of these people because im probably guilty of feeling the same way if I live in an area that is proposing having junkie housing. But, still not a reason to start spartan kicking people around. This is one of those situations where people will always have something biased to say until the same incident happens to them, close to home. I think the best solution for this issue is to grab a cold beer, pan sear a ribeye to medium rare, roast some potatoes + bell peppers and season with salt & pepper, turn on the TV, watch a good sports game, and cry inside but look happy on the outside. |
They put the shelter in terra nova. Also, all chinese residents of richmond should be required to provide shelter for at least 1 homeless person within their home |
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If the government wanted to develop one of these in my neighborhood, I would absolutely do everything in my power (aside from violence, of course) to oppose it. And I've got nothing against the homeless. But if I wanted to move to a housing project, I would have done so. The fact that the government is forcing this on residents, I find completely egregious. +1 on that medium rare ribeye. Definitely my favorite cut :) slather it with some Sweet Baby Ray's honey BBQ sauce, pinch of Montreal steak spice, a crisp Vlasic dill pickle on the side Kreygasm |
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As for the labour shortage, I am talking about the grand scheme of things. 20-30-50 years down the road. I'm mostly talking about overall concept which is why I didn't even address the shelter itself. Maybe a combination of our ideas will work the best - your Soviet strategy eventually turns into mine? LUL |
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You're comparing the gulags, and life under Mao, where a PRISONER would be slaughtered for disobeying, to being given the choice to work for shelter and food? Sorry, bud. But there's a huge difference. The people have a choice to work. If they don't like it, they can leave and live on the street. Just like everyone else has a choice to work or live on the street. |
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And I shouldn't have brought up Mao, because it became distracting. MB for posting before fully waking up |
Mao>Kim |
nvm, bad hair day............. |
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Damn, I usually agree with you but I just can’t on this. Giving people a universal base income will just breed the same problem Canada has with aboriginals. I really do think people won’t have an insentive to do anything if you give them a paycheque if they never had it to begin with when sleeping in the gutter. Of course there will be exceptions to the rule, it’s not black and white |
The world needs a purge. |
went into the petro can around granville and 3 road to buy a bag of ice, then comes out and what looks to be a homeless person in his mid/late 30s comes up and asks if I have any change. The guy looked more muscular than me, have all 4 limbs, looks to be in great health, and instead of going to find work is out asking for change. Honestly I really have no sympathy for these types of "homeless" i mean, get a job and work like everyone else. |
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Welcome to her Majesties Caliphate.. making people homeless has been business as usually way before the Opium Wars and this is isnt going to change. Once the inheritance has been siphon its to the Canadian prison plantations were you get a few dollars (enough to buy a Kit Kat bar and coke ) for a whole days work. |
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Let's say tomorrow I gave you a gold medal for doing absolutely nothing. How much would you appreciate that free gold medal? Then let's say you had to train, everyday, for several years to win that same medal. How would you feel about the medal then? That concept is universal to all things. Car. Home. Money. The value we feel for anything is relative to the effort it took to achieve it. Effort, consequence, and reward are detrimental aspects of responsibility. This countries economy is extremely volatile right now. Household debt just hit a new record high at the end of '17. Our GDP is 20% based in real estate (13% housing 7% construction). Interest rates are rising. That 20% is on very shaky ground. And our number one trading partner is moving in the complete opposite direction. Forgive me for saying, but when I hear comments regarding more 'free' government funds, it just sounds completely derelict. |
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The concept isn't about making people feel like they've accomplished something for nothing. It's about making sure people can have a normal life. You'd be blown away if you realized how many people in the world simply can't earn enough for the very basics of life - food and rent. Even the most hard working people, who end up with several jobs and spending the majority of time working, earn maybe enough for the bare minimum. More likely, they go further and further into debt instead, and end up with less than nothing when all is said and done. It's not just the people who need incentive as 320 put it. It's regular every day people that you see most of the time but never interact with. The majority is actually far worse off than people who have the time and means to hit up revscene for a discussion like this. |
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The point was to get you to reflect on what you wrote, not go 'tit for tat' about it Just think about analogy you attempted to make If you're still OK with it, I agree we're not going to get anywhere with this discussion |
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So many people on RS don't have the ability to see things from other people's points of view or have an understanding of what others go through. my sig says it all.......... I could have easily been born into a different world/situation. I am grateful for what I've accomplished and I thank my lucky stars each and every moment that things worked out the way they have, but in a flash, I could be............... Nuff said. Nobody likes to hear sermons. god bless |
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