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bcedhk 04-10-2018 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by murd0c (Post 8897542)
You honestly can't even compare the two, yes its sad as well no questions but the circumstances are completely different.

how so?

both involved a bus crash and a number of deaths. The only difference is that one was covered in mass media extensively and the other was not.

twitchyzero 04-10-2018 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by SumAznGuy (Post 8897521)
Flavor of the month.
Same thing happened when the tsunami hit asia in 2004.
A lot of money was donated to asia, but locally, Christmas time donations were down.

uhh, that was the largest natural disaster in our lifetime...quarter million killed across a dozen countries, so sorry if that took precedence over Jimmy's christmas toy. IIRC that happened on boxing day, after Christmas that year

sorry dumb arguments guys...of course a group of presumably bright young athletes who died for hockey will hit Canadians closer to home than Indians that went over the rails into a canyon. Just in this thread many have chimed in recalling a time when they were younger traveling in the winter for organized sports.

Tragedies happen everywhere, and rather frequently. We don't have the means to help every last cause. Stop being judgemental assholes.

Jmac 04-10-2018 03:08 PM

Anyone find it odd that they're piggybacking off a joke internet meme (Dicks out for Harambe) from a few years ago?

punkwax 04-10-2018 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by noclue (Post 8897527)
While tragic, a few days after 27 people died in India after their bus fell off a cliff. Yet no one cares cause it's in a 3rd world country.

I’m sure people in India cared. :derp:

Strong username to post content ratio.

ScizzMoney 04-10-2018 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Manic! (Post 8897525)
Buses usually don't have seat belts.

All coach buses are required to have seat belts as far as I know. Even school buses from what my coworker tells me (his wife drives school bus) said that school buses that have to go on highways or roads with speeds over like 80 km/h need seat belts. The school bus thing could just be a bylaw I really don't know.

GS8 04-10-2018 08:27 PM

Definitely a tragedy and a fairly large concentration of loss of life in a single moment.

After reading through this thread, I got curious and started looking through StatsCan and realized there is a lot of death on our streets on a yearly basis.

Motor vehicle accidents causing death, by sex and by age group (Both sexes no.)

Pure stats are usually brought up as a footnote in a news story but facts are boring and have nothing to do with feelings. My worry is the media will milk this story, trying to create as many fluff pieces as they can (because their revenues are hurting badly). All while the families yearn for privacy.

SumAznGuy 04-11-2018 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by freakshow (Post 8897539)
Based on the pictures, this definitely looks to be the case.. the bus must have went straight into the trailer.

Would the driver/charter company get charged/sued in an event like this? (assuming the bus was at fault)

It's the other way around. The bus was traveling west on the main road while the truck had the stop sign. In one of the pics, you see there is a row of trees on the right for the truck, so the truck driver didn't see the bus and the bus driver didn't see the truck till it was too late for both vehicles.

The guess is the truck driver blew the stop sign.

MG1 04-11-2018 07:07 AM

I’m no tree hugger, so cut the damn trees down, ffs.

underscore 04-11-2018 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by MG1 (Post 8897514)
I believe it is because it hits home for a lot of Canadians.

It could have easily been them or their children, grandchildren, nephews, you name it. Sure there are lots of tragedies around the world, but sometimes, when it's your own backyard............... nuff said.

I'm talking about Canada. According to the link posted there's over 2,000 fatalities/year from automotive accidents here. Many of which had dependents that are left in a tough spot, something most young athletes don't have.

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Originally Posted by MG1 (Post 8897514)
This intersection is notorious.............. well, for fuck's sake, do something about it. Build an overpass, put up lights, rumble strips, speed bumps, round about, warning signs, whatever. Instead of protesting against pipelines and gender whatever they protest against these days, protest until something is done with that intersection from hell.

It looks like it does have lights and signs, short of building an overpass (unlikely) there's only so much you can do. If it had been a regular car/truck involved nobody would have heard about it.

Razor Ramon HG 04-11-2018 10:23 AM

Does this crash remind anyone else of the one Joe Sakic was in back in the 80s when he was in the juniors? That team was also called the Broncos, the Swift Current Broncos.

He lost four teammates, one of which was Lindy Ruff's younger brother.

Great68 04-11-2018 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by ScizzMoney (Post 8897587)
All coach buses are required to have seat belts as far as I know. Even school buses from what my coworker tells me (his wife drives school bus) said that school buses that have to go on highways or roads with speeds over like 80 km/h need seat belts. The school bus thing could just be a bylaw I really don't know.

I've never been on a bus with seat belts.
I was on one last summer year going up to whistler for my company's annual retreat, no seat belts.

Great68 04-11-2018 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by SumAznGuy (Post 8897632)
It's the other way around. The bus was traveling west on the main road while the truck had the stop sign. In one of the pics, you see there is a row of trees on the right for the truck, so the truck driver didn't see the bus and the bus driver didn't see the truck till it was too late for both vehicles.

The guess is the truck driver blew the stop sign.

Bus was travelling North on 35. Truck was travelling West on 335.

But you're correct about the stop signs, and the trees which would have affected visibility. Also, at time of day the sunlight angle would have also been a factor.

ScizzMoney 04-11-2018 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Great68 (Post 8897675)
I've never been on a bus with seat belts.
I was on one last summer year going up to whistler for my company's annual retreat, no seat belts.

Oh wow, I don't think I'd want to ride in a vehicle without a seat belt. I'd like to see it become the normal thing.

SumAznGuy 04-11-2018 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Great68 (Post 8897676)
Bus was travelling North on 35. Truck was travelling West on 335.

But you're correct about the stop signs, and the trees which would have affected visibility. Also, at time of day the sunlight angle would have also been a factor.

Oops, got them mixed up.

I didn't check, but what is the speed limit on 35?

The damage and distance traveled from the impact scene leads me to believe other vehicles were not traveling that fast, and quite possibly, the truck didn't run the stop sign.

whitev70r 04-11-2018 02:49 PM

16th victim announced. Dayna Brons, trainer of the team died of her injuries.

Humboldt Broncos bus crash claims 16th victim, as athletic trainer dies in hospital | CBC News

Jmac 04-11-2018 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by underscore (Post 8897670)
I'm talking about Canada. According to the link posted there's over 2,000 fatalities/year from automotive accidents here. Many of which had dependents that are left in a tough spot, something most young athletes don't have.



It looks like it does have lights and signs, short of building an overpass (unlikely) there's only so much you can do. If it had been a regular car/truck involved nobody would have heard about it.

It's extremely rare for 16 people, most of whom were children, to die in a single auto accident.

Great68 04-11-2018 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ScizzMoney (Post 8897689)
Oh wow, I don't think I'd want to ride in a vehicle without a seat belt. I'd like to see it become the normal thing.

https://www.thoughtco.com/why-dont-b...tbelts-2798819

Great68 04-11-2018 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by SumAznGuy (Post 8897721)
Oops, got them mixed up.

I didn't check, but what is the speed limit on 35?

The damage and distance traveled from the impact scene leads me to believe other vehicles were not traveling that fast, and quite possibly, the truck didn't run the stop sign.

Apparently it's 100km/h on both highways.

kunoman1 04-11-2018 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ScizzMoney (Post 8897587)
All coach buses are required to have seat belts as far as I know. Even school buses from what my coworker tells me (his wife drives school bus) said that school buses that have to go on highways or roads with speeds over like 80 km/h need seat belts. The school bus thing could just be a bylaw I really don't know.

I spent 16+ hours on those kind of coach busses every week travelling to ball games in College. Ripping through mountain passes in snow storms or hauling ass through the Prairies, we had some close calls but never wore seatbelts or ever thought anything of it. Been talking with some old teammates and it kinda put it all into perspective how quickly things can change.


These teams are the pillar of small communities, its sad for us but I imagine it's unfathomably tragic for the folks over there

RRxtar 04-11-2018 07:54 PM

disgusting human being right here


https://www.facebook.com/11225347177...type=3&theater

underscore 04-11-2018 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Jmac (Post 8897735)
It's extremely rare for 16 people, most of whom were children, to die in a single auto accident.

True, but is it really that different from 16 dying in separate accidents?

RRxtar 04-11-2018 09:22 PM

In less than a week, the gofundme so far has raised enough money for almost $350,000 per person on the bus. wow

welfare 04-11-2018 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by underscore (Post 8897796)
True, but is it really that different from 16 dying in separate accidents?

Y'know, I thought about that too. But then I guess the difference is that they all would have known each other. I think that makes it more of a tragedy

TBH, it's the media that dictates which deaths we feel are tragic, IMO.

If I die tomorrow, would any of them care? Nope. Nor should they.
See where I'm going with this..

welfare 04-11-2018 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by RRxtar (Post 8897778)

Quite the POS that one is

Tim Budong 04-11-2018 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by RRxtar (Post 8897778)

its a free country, we value our free speech I get it.
Too bad, this is so fucking out of line. I hope she feels the heat from McLeans.

for fucks sake, the "whiteness"? seriously?


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