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Idiots like this are jealous that someone can speak a language more complicated than English(which really is just about any language). I am guessing the dude probably can't speak French but just said that because it's an official language.
Man, it would be great trolling to swear in French.:trolling:
"It started with a look. I turned around and looked at the one gentleman and he was staring at me. And I said is there a problem? And he said, 'no, no problem.' And I turned back around and I kind of looked over my shoulder again and he was still staring at me and I turned around and they were all kind of talking to each other in their own language and then they all started laughing at me. And that's basically when things started to get said. I normally don't get that angry, I have to get provoked.
"You're only hearing one side of the story. He decided to hit record when I was extremely irritated and heated. You don't see the whole video, you don't see what was said to me, things like that. So yeah, I'm extremely upset about it, cause it's gotten, I think, way out of hand."
Pocha says she's upset the video has gone viral and now doesn't know how to deal with it.
"I don't know how to handle this kind of attention... I really don't know what to do at this point in time."
And she admits her comments were racist.
"Oh of course, of course it was. If I could take it back, I would. But I can't."
Her employer has also been notified and she's not sure what any further fallout might be.
"What people are seeing isn't the whole story. I was put down as well. There were comments made to me. My reaction was basically me just angry. Yes, I made some comments that shouldn't have been said...I even went back to Denny's and apologised to the manager, to the server. I told the manager if I could apologise to the men that were there, I would, for my actions. Because I mean, that's not who I am."
Pocha says she's a hardworking mom of three, and it was an "off" day.
"It is what it is...but I do apologise for what I said, cause a lot of it is not me. I don't normally say things like that."
That said, she realises that the video can and likely will damage her reputation.
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If your sitting in a booth looking straight ahead you are going to be looking at the back of a the person head in the booth in front of you. But that's beside the point. If you don't want people looking at you, stay at home or wear a burka.
Not buying it. It's her paranoid racism that caused her to assume they were laughing and making comments in their "own" language. Her husband wasn't being "provoked" yet was supporting her tirade. If this really wasn't her usual nature, he'd be trying to calm her down and move her to another booth.
She's a racist piece of shit, and maybe getting caught on camera will make her change her ways? One can hope there's one less racist piece of shit in this world.
i must say, i love her friggin accent. The way she says "CANADIAN" is so typically CANADIAN it belongs on Air Farce.
But sadly i think she's paid dearly for her racist remarks. 1) lost herrr jeerrrbbb 2) a public shaming and easily identifiable in public 3) her children will be teased non stop in school 4) because of her lost jeeerrrb she will have a hard time paying for her 3 kids since they were already eating at.... ugh.... im gonna throw up in my mouth just thinking about it.. Denny's.
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Not buying it. It's her paranoid racism that caused her to assume they were laughing and making comments in their "own" language. Her husband wasn't being "provoked" yet was supporting her tirade. If this really wasn't her usual nature, he'd be trying to calm her down and move her to another booth.
She's a racist piece of shit, and maybe getting caught on camera will make her change her ways? One can hope there's one less racist piece of shit in this world.
By her account, she turned around and the guy was staring at her. She asked if he had a problem. He said no. Then they said something in Dari and started laughing.
Sounds like she was provoked. By her account anyways.
It sounds like it was actually just a reciprocated argument (these guys weren't trying to diffuse it by any means), and then she made some drunk racist comments.
These recordings always only show the altercation. Never the pretext. Practically designed to spark "outrage" by not offering the whole story.
She got drunk, got in an argument, said some racist shit and apologized. Even came back to the Denny's that night to apologize apparently.
So how principled is it to call her a piece of shit? Is it really proportionate to say she deserves to lose the ability to feed her kids?
Is that really any better than what she did?
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Witness account of the incident. Sounds like she heard the guys speaking Arabic, didn't like that because she's a racist cunt and went off at them.
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“It started with a look,” Pocha said. “I turned around and I looked at the one gentleman and he was staring at me and I said, ‘Is there a problem?’ And he said, ‘No, no problem.'”
But Bonare said that isn’t what she witnessed.
“She was sitting with the back of her head facing them, so she would have to be glaring over her shoulder to even see them looking at her, and they were speaking in their own language so she couldn’t understand what they were saying anyway.”
By her account, she turned around and the guy was staring at her. She asked if he had a problem. He said no. Then they said something in Dari and started laughing.
Sounds like she was provoked. By her account anyways.
It sounds like it was actually just a reciprocated argument (these guys weren't trying to diffuse it by any means), and then she made some drunk racist comments.
These recordings always only show the altercation. Never the pretext. Practically designed to spark "outrage" by not offering the whole story.
She got drunk, got in an argument, said some racist shit and apologized. Even came back to the Denny's that night to apologize apparently.
So how principled is it to call her a piece of shit? Is it really proportionate to say she deserves to lose the ability to feed her kids?
Is that really any better than what she did?
Oh she was drunk? What's the next excuse?
And BTW there is no acceptable pretext for racism. If "the whole story" is that they were staring at her and laughing, go ahead, get mad and go off on them. Or walk away and move to another booth. Or be confrontational if that's how you want to handle it. But she's still a racist piece of shit for saying what she said.
IF she was being provoked in some way (which I highly doubt happened anywhere other than in her racist mind), THAT is what she should be mad at. Not because they aren't white.
personally, i don't think her angst was coming from them 'not being white'.
if i had to guess i'd say it's more to do with the fact she's a woman and the perceived way women are treated in muslim cultures. considering she made several references to women in her rant.
would make sense to me anyways.
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if i had to guess i'd say it's more to do with the fact she's a woman and the perceived way women are treated in muslim cultures. considering she made several references to women in her rant.
You make a point here, albeit one that I think is misdirected.
Her anger was unprovoked. All of the witnesses that commented made it clear that her back was to them and there was no way she could have seen them make the gestures that she said they made. Regardless of how we percieve how middle eastern men treat women, she took it ten steps further by (#1) assuming they were abusive to women and (#2) attacking them based on her own prejudice.
And this is coming from a guy who wouldn't let his daughter date someone from the middle east. So if I think it's fucked up, it probably is.
Dave Chappel's phrase, tiki torch Trumpers describes it best.
Westerners are dumbed-down and socially engineered to redirect their plantation nation status away from the elites that create it.
You make a point here, albeit one that I think is misdirected.
Her anger was unprovoked. All of the witnesses that commented made it clear that her back was to them and there was no way she could have seen them make the gestures that she said they made. Regardless of how we percieve how middle eastern men treat women, she took it ten steps further by (#1) assuming they were abusive to women and (#2) attacking them based on her own prejudice.
And this is coming from a guy who wouldn't let his daughter date someone from the middle east. So if I think it's fucked up, it probably is.
all i'm saying is i don't think it's really right to pass judgement based off a 3 minute clip of a woman who's drunk and angry.
no more right than it would be for her to pass judgment based off their religion.
i don't think either of those alone are enough to know someones true character
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Silver is the money of gentlemen;
Barter is the money of peasants;
But debt is the money of slaves.
-Norm Franz
She got drunk, got in an argument, said some racist shit and apologized. Even came back to the Denny's that night to apologize apparently.
So how principled is it to call her a piece of shit? Is it really proportionate to say she deserves to lose the ability to feed her kids?
Is that really any better than what she did?
Youre defending her actions... says a lot about you Welfare... like do you live in a household or keep friends where if someone eyes you, the threat of violence is acceptable?
And before you say shes a small women... who can predict what state (psycho) or status (gangster ect) her male companion is.
all i'm saying is i don't think it's really right to pass judgement based off a 3 minute clip of a woman who's drunk and angry.
no more right than it would be for her to pass judgment based off their religion.
i don't think either of those alone are enough to know someones true character
While that is 100% true it still shows that the flow of information today combined with the lack of true context will always win over the real truth. Real truth doesn't matter anymore; it's all perception and optics. We all have it in us to fly off the handle when we feel disrespected, for whatever reason valid or not. It's way too easy to take it to a racist and prejudicial level given the context of life today on this planet. You hurt me so I'm going to hurt you back even harder. Then regret of said decision sinks in moments later and the need to forgive and ask for forgiveness becomes the strongest emotion available after the adrenaline dissipates. Too late y0! That shit is plastered all over the interwebz. It's like when you are charged with a criminal offence and later acquitted of said offence. The "charge" is posted front page everywhere for all to comment and judge while the later acquittal is printed on page 28 in small print below the vacuum ads where no one will see or care.
Was it wrong for that women to say what she said? Or course, that's trashy hate-filled rhetoric that should have no place in this world. But it does. So what's the lesson? Keep that bullshit to yourself and walk away from situations like that when they arise. By flipping out and having someone record said flip out all you are doing is letting the mob mentality of humanity get on board with more hate. The purpose it serves is purely negative and it breeds negativity. And for what? So you can get your point across and feel like you've said you're piece? Retarded.
I feel like this is Captain Obvious-type stuff but I felt the need to type and get my post count up
all i'm saying is i don't think it's really right to pass judgement based off a 3 minute clip of a woman who's drunk and angry.
no more right than it would be for her to pass judgment based off their religion.
i don't think either of those alone are enough to know someones true character
Lmao even if I was drunk and angry I wouldn't speak about race at all in an altercation and I'm a woman with a lot of feelings. I've had men literally throw shit at me at my old job and I never threatened to assault them, rather calmly invite them to take it outside instead. How you act when you're in a face to face confrontation with a stranger does show who you are. She's a loudmouth hothead who needs to gravitate towards violence to assert herself and her opinions.
For her to say "that isn't me" well bitch it must be because it's not like you were possessed by a nazi ghost or a racist demon lol. She's an adult woman and a mother of children, so I'm damn sure she knows exactly what coming out of her mouth. She isn't apologizing for being racist, she's just making an excuse for her behaviour.
If she's really fighting about the men looking at her, then that's what she should be yelling about. Not yelling about not doing their taxes and to go back to their country lmao.
You have 4 guys minding there own business and she decides to engage them with a question. The guy answers her question, goes back to talking with his friends and she goes off the rails. If the guys where 4 white women and the lady was a drunk brown guy you would be talking about deportation. Your such a hypocrite.
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Youre defending her actions... says a lot about you Welfare...
As someone who posts anti-Semitic propaganda on nearly a daily basis, I'd hardly say you're in a position to judge my character.
Let he without sin, Charles...
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Lmao even if I was drunk and angry I wouldn't speak about race at all in an altercation and I'm a woman with a lot of feelings. I've had men literally throw shit at me at my old job and I never threatened to assault them, rather calmly invite them to take it outside instead. How you act when you're in a face to face confrontation with a stranger does show who you are. She's a loudmouth hothead who needs to gravitate towards violence to assert herself and her opinions.
For her to say "that isn't me" well bitch it must be because it's not like you were possessed by a nazi ghost or a racist demon lol. She's an adult woman and a mother of children, so I'm damn sure she knows exactly what coming out of her mouth. She isn't apologizing for being racist, she's just making an excuse for her behaviour.
If she's really fighting about the men looking at her, then that's what she should be yelling about. Not yelling about not doing their taxes and to go back to their country lmao.
I guess someone's reaction to remarks like hers really depends on where you think they came from.
Whether you think they're from a place of hate, fear, anger, or ignorance should really be the determining factors. Of course some people won't even go so far as to ask themselves that and just blanket it with the term 'racism'.
Example: my coworker, white guy, has a daughter and very young granddaughter. She was dating a Muslim guy, middle Eastern descent. This guy ended up beating her and his granddaughter half to death.
So when I hear someone (ahem, hypa ) say they wouldn't want their daughter dating a middle Eastern guy, I got nothing to say to that.
This country is made up of over 200 ethnic backgrounds. To think that there shouldn't be any kind of cultural friction is almost delusional.
It's actually very (pleasently) surprising that people get along as well as they do.
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Gold is the money of kings;
Silver is the money of gentlemen;
Barter is the money of peasants;
But debt is the money of slaves.
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Example: my coworker, white guy, has a daughter and very young granddaughter. She was dating a Muslim guy, middle Eastern descent. This guy ended up beating her and his granddaughter half to death.
So when I hear someone (ahem, hypa ) say they wouldn't want their daughter dating a middle Eastern guy, I got nothing to say to that.
Ya only men from the middle are involved in domestic abuse.
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) say they wouldn't want their daughter dating a middle Eastern guy, I got nothing to say to that.