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Broken violin. No one cares anymore.
It's gotten to the point where they deserve it now.
The people that deserve it aren't the victims unfortunately. The day someone goes in a shoots up an NRA meeting that statement might hold a little more validity.
These are fucking kids. They didn't create this disgusting gun culture in a disgusting country.
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Westopher is correct.
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seems like you got a dick up your ass well..get that checked
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Well.. I’d hate to be the first to say it, but Westopher is correct.
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Whats the point of having trials for people like this?
They should just be killed immediately once caught. What a waste of time/money. They should be clearing out mass murderers just as quick as theyve done their victims.
Tbh, the way our planet is going the govt is probably letting it happen since it cant sustain the growing population for much longer. They need to thin it out somehow.
On April 28, 1996, a gunman opened fire on tourists in a seaside resort in Port Arthur, Tasmania. By the time he was finished, he had killed 35 people and wounded 23 more. It was the worst mass murder in Australia’s history.
Twelve days later, Australia’s government did something remarkable. Led by newly elected conservative Prime Minister John Howard, it announced a bipartisan deal with state and local governments to enact sweeping gun-control measures. A decade and a half hence, the results of these policy changes are clear: They worked really, really well.
In 1996, Australia Enacted Strict Gun Laws. It Hasn't Had a Mass Shooting Since.
That's a mass shooting only by technicality...The mother murdered her children in some rural property.
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Australia's gun laws are widely acclaimed as a success, with supporters including former U.S. president Barack Obama saying Australia has not had a single mass shooting since they were implemented.
The generally accepted definition of a mass shooting — four deaths excluding the shooter in a single event — has been met only once in Australia since then. In 2014, a farmer shot his wife and three children before killing himself.
Anyone knows what happens in Mexico when the cartels have guns and citizens arn't allowed to have them?
Why do US cities with the strictest gun laws have higher crime rates?
Can we just make a "US Mass shootings thread"? Cause every time I go into one of these threads it feels like I'm reading one of previous ones over and over again.
Anyone knows what happens in Mexico when the cartels have guns and citizens arn't allowed to have them?
Why do US cities with the strictest gun laws have higher crime rates?
You have fewer school shootings.
Where do the cartels get their guns from?
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OH SHIT I GUESS IT DIDNT WORK.
The same amount of mass shootings in 20 years as US had in several days. Before the “but knives” argument I know is coming you could check out Australia’s homicide rate per capita compared to America.
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Westopher is correct.
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seems like you got a dick up your ass well..get that checked
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Originally Posted by punkwax
Well.. I’d hate to be the first to say it, but Westopher is correct.
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Silver is the money of gentlemen;
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Gun nuts always tell me a gun is an inanimate object and a gun has never killed anyone. The lieutenant governor texas is blaming doors and now wants to ban doors. A door is an inanimate object so why blame doors, doors have never killed anyone.
Since at least 2012 the NRA has blamed violent video games for mass shootings. But the new president of the NRA Oliver North (yes that Oliver North) does not blame video games but still blames movies and TV. The reason why? He was a consultant on COD 4 and was in the game. If the NRA believes violent video games are the problem why hire a president that worked on violent video games.
Why don’t we all just agree it’s a complicated issue.
Does video games, violent movies, music etc cause mass shootings? Maybe. Are they’re mass shooters who don’t watch/listen to any of that stuff? Probably. You can come up with lots of hypocracies from both side. Do you have a comment of “action stars” getting paid millions for movies but call for a gun bans after mass shootings.
Let’s face it. Banning all guns aren’t going to solve the issue. Making more laws aren’t going to do anything. But doing nothing right now is is obviously not doing anything as well. In the end, it’s up to the individual and we need to think of ways to deter these people from wanting to shoot up a school. Whether it’s mental health, anti bullying or having a healthy upbringing; something where there are no quick fixes. Unfortunately it’s so complicated and every group is involved with or has a relationship with everyone else, it makes it difficult to actually attempt to effectively and seriously address the problem.
Why don’t we all just agree it’s a complicated issue.
Does video games, violent movies, music etc cause mass shootings? Maybe. Are they’re mass shooters who don’t watch/listen to any of that stuff? Probably. You can come up with lots of hypocracies from both side. Do you have a comment of “action stars” getting paid millions for movies but call for a gun bans after mass shootings.
Let’s face it. Banning all guns aren’t going to solve the issue. Making more laws aren’t going to do anything. But doing nothing right now is is obviously not doing anything as well. In the end, it’s up to the individual and we need to think of ways to deter these people from wanting to shoot up a school. Whether it’s mental health, anti bullying or having a healthy upbringing; something where there are no quick fixes. Unfortunately it’s so complicated and every group is involved with or has a relationship with everyone else, it makes it difficult to actually attempt to effectively and seriously address the problem.
Maybe not letting a 17 year old have access to guns would be a good start.
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The video is from a guy called 8 bit. Did you verify any of the video or do you just believe everything that fits your narrative.
So do you dispute the data? Or do you just dislike it because it contradicts your narrative?
I just love the way he says "retadded", don't you?
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I wasn't going to post until the follow up because i didn't think it was worth typing out. But here goes.
8Bit's data shows absolute numbers that are not relative to the population. As well he uses percentages out of deaths, which further inflates those numbers to look higher than they actually are. Moreover, his use of language detracts from his stance as an intelligent person.
A real look would be gun violence per capita and gun ownership per capita, as shown below. I will leave it up to the reader to come to their own conclusions.
His point was that gun deaths were already trending down. And regardless of how you slice it, they were.
So to say that Australia's gun control "worked", there's just no evidence.
I could just as easily point out countries with stricter gun control than Australia, yet spiraling gun deaths.
It's comparing apples to baseballs.
If someone wants to be remotely honest, they'd compare state to state gun laws and their effects. At least then you're comparing laws in the same country.
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Silver is the money of gentlemen;
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The trending down was one of his points of many. I'm sure it was trending down when the event that caused the stricter gun control happened as well right?
Do Gun Buybacks Save Lives? Evidence
from Panel Data
Andrew Leigh, Research School of Economics, Australian National
University and
Christine Neill, Department of Economics, Wilfrid Laurier University
In 1997, Australia implemented a gun buyback program that reduced the stock of firearms by around one-fifth (and nearly halved the number of gun-owning households). Using differences across states, we test[ed] whether the reduction in firearms availability affected homicide and suicide rates. We find that the buyback led to a drop in the firearm suicide rates of almost 80%, with no significant effect on non-firearm death rates. The effect on firearm homicides is of similar magnitude but is less precise [somewhere between 35% and 50%].
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