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I'd make it a point that support for the sanctions have been bipartisan, but coming up with the sanctions in the first place -- is that bipartisan too?
Biden has made it abundantly clear during the campaign that he will approach the China issue by holding China to follow "international rules" with international partners. But just since when has the international community been able to hold China to follow international rules? Obama's idea of holding China accountable to "international rules" was TPP, and we can all see how effective that has been. With Biden being part of Obama's administration, and in fact, much of Biden's advisors on China were recycled staff from Obama's team, how different and effective would you expect Biden's China policy is going to be?
Well, if you're going to say talk is cheap... how does you saying Xi is "backed into a corner" (which is just a figure of speech nobody including yourself can quantify) hold any weight when China is arguably one of, if not the most, cash rich countries in the world right now?
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Wow things have taken quite the turn, trump pulled a surprisingly close race, let's be fair, no one thought it'd be this close, he should be happy n prepared to move on and back out gracefully... But it seems like it may get nasty before it ends
Aren't you in Hong Kong, SkinnyPupp? So wouldn't you know better than a lot of other people how US under Trump is pushing all of China's buttons?
CB, you need to look a little more into how much China is being backed into that corner, and what the fallout is gonna be when US cuts China off from accessing technology. China has zero capabilities to produce their own advanced semiconductors, and without that access to technology, a lot of things would come to a grinding halt.
There are reasons why Biden is China's preferred choice as the next POTUS.
Actually Trump is a lot of mainlander's prefer POTUS.
-His values aligns with the nationalistic and dictator worship narrative of the CCP
-Racial Elitism, conservative value, lack of support and recognition for the marginalize
-Trump's ability to run USA to the ground leaving China the second super power of the world to benefit from its fall.
Short term and on the surface Biden looks good for China due to its perceive policies. But if you buy into "there can only be one global superpower" Trump is definitely better long term for China. Remember every 4 year USA has to deal with change again and potential spend another term undoing the previous harm. Not to mention all the non economically issue that now plague the country.
China has one long goal and zero power change (that we can foresee). Long term Trump is much better for China.
Well, if you're going to say talk is cheap... how does you saying Xi is "backed into a corner" (which is just a figure of speech nobody including yourself can quantify) hold any weight when China is arguably one of, if not the most, cash rich countries in the world right now?
68style,
I'd recommend you to look into how substantial China's claims regarding their national reserves are -- that is to say, how much do they claim to have, and how much do they actually have. Also, look into how much provincial, regional, and municipal debts the different places are under, and you will see how wealthy China really is.
Another sign to look for is how much Xi has tightened monetary outflow from China to foreign countries in recent years.
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All anti China groups, especially those in the US (like the Falun Gong, hk freedom, etc) supported Trumps reelection, they didn't do that for no reason.
You may want to dismiss trumps actions against China as minimal, or ineffective (5g, Huawei, tech sanctions are not minimal or ineffective tho) but just by souring China's image globally moreso than its ever been, that is considered significant to these groups, and that is more than any other administration has done
There is no way a democrat will do as much, they will seek out to normalize relations
All anti China groups, especially those in the US (like the Falun Gong, hk freedom, etc) supported Trumps reelection, they didn't do that for no reason.
You may want to dismiss trumps actions against China as minimal, or ineffective (5g, Huawei, tech sanctions are not minimal or ineffective tho) but just by souring China's image globally moreso than its ever been, that is considered significant to these groups, and that is more than any other administration has done
There is no way a democrat will do as much, they will seek out to normalize relations
Epoch Times USA division decided that Trump's public anti CCP persona aligned with theirs, and went full nutjob after that, promoting every single bullshit conspiracy all the way up to QAnon
I'd recommend you to look into how substantial China's claims regarding their national reserves are -- that is to say, how much do they claim to have, and how much do they actually have. Also, look into how much provincial, regional, and municipal debts the different places are under, and you will see how wealthy China really is.
Another sign to look for is how much Xi has tightened monetary outflow from China to foreign countries in recent years.
I honestly don't think anyone can see any of that info. Not from a verifiable source.. and we never will. It's China.
LOL. Ah the old "He has business acumen" fallacy. That wore out years ago.
All him being a "business bully" has done is had his closest allied countries to turn away from him. He has done fuck all to affect China and Russia is grinning from ear to ear looking like the stable country right now.
You're definitely wrong there, Traum.
What actually makes a proficient president is carrying a law background, this allows you to immerse yourself in the policy wonky aptitudes of being a president. That's why Obama was so effective, he understood how a bill is passed, and the innerworkings of the legal system. He was a huge policy wonk. Kamala has that background, which IMHO would make her great at the job.
This is actually why Trump has been such a piss poor president, he lacks the experience in the judicial process, hence why he hasn't been able to pass anything effectively, or enact his agenda proficiently.
Anyone find it fascinating that the Hunter Biden "emails" are no longer a thing? What happened to the evidence, and the emails, how convenient that it all just disappeared after the election. Not even a subject of discussion anymore, and nothing to report.
These people I tell you, fuck all 67 million of them.
Anyone find it fascinating that the Hunter Biden "emails" are no longer a thing? What happened to the evidence, and the emails, how convenient that it all just disappeared after the election. Not even a subject of discussion anymore, and nothing to report.
These people I tell you, fuck all 67 million of them.
Ya, what happened to fucker carlsons evidence that was lost then found. Welfare?
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Wow things have taken quite the turn, trump pulled a surprisingly close race, let's be fair, no one thought it'd be this close, he should be happy n prepared to move on and back out gracefully... But it seems like it may get nasty before it ends
Trump can claim moral victory. He lost to Biden by a smaller and narrower margin than Clinton lost to him in 2016. He beat Clinton pretty convincingly. Brag about that when the moving trucks come to the white house.
Epoch Times USA division decided that Trump's public anti CCP persona aligned with theirs, and went full nutjob after that, promoting every single bullshit conspiracy all the way up to QAnon
Sorry but Falun Gong has been nut job for decade.
Not at all surprise they support Trump and his BS.
Not at all surprise they support Trump and his BS.
I definitely don't agree with their methods, much like I wouldn't with many religions and cults. I try to stop short of calling everyone a nutjob though, unless they are actively harmful to others like Epoch Times seem to be in the US.
I'll call Trump supporters nutjobs, jihadists, crazy falun gongers nutjobs... But not all Republicans, not all Muslims, etc. Even Scientologists! I try not to lump everyone in a group as nutjobs
Looks like the ghost of John McCain is having the last laugh in Arizona. His widow supported Biden. If trump just could have shown some respect to McCain he would have won Arizona. McCain's old seat has now gone democrat. Mark Kelly husband of Gabby Gifford has won it.
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Looks like the ghost of John McCain is having the last laugh in Arizona. His widow supported Biden. If trump just could have shown some respect to McCain he would have won Arizona. McCain's old seat has now gone democrat. Mark Kelly husband of Gabby Gifford has won it.
Trump antagonising McCain killed his campaign dead. AZ hasn't been blue since the 90s right? It he even cost the Republicans 2 senate seats
if biden wins, and i'm not getting my hopes too high till it's all over, i'll just be glad that i won't have to listens to trumps fucking voice anymore.
it'd be nice for Biden to win so i dont have to be constantly bombarded by the media/social media crying for another 4 #NOTMYPREZIDENT
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Nevermind the fact the USA politically turned a blind eye to China's overt threats to Taiwan and has continued to cave in on no not referring to Taiwan as its own country.
what? just the last 2 weeks alone they dealt around $5B total for arms deal to Taiwan. the Obama admin was VERY reluctant to deal and W. Bush was too occupied invading the Gulf
not to mention two senior officials from the Trump admin visited Taiwan; the first in over 40 years
and Washington walking back on PRC's One China policy will lkely result in a global conflict
Taiwan is probably the only hotbed in Asia that wants to see Trump continue serving the region
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Fair enough I didn’t know about the arms deal I just didn’t see them speak out about China’s posturing and no US military was moved in response to my knowledge.
Fair enough I didn’t know about the arms deal I just didn’t see them speak out about China’s posturing and no US military was moved in response to my knowledge.
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